No Midway handgun ammo sales to NJ, even with FID on file

[this_is_nascar 162]

I received a response from Midway to my e-mail (see post #15) this morning. Here is the response...

 

Dear Bob,

 

Thank you for your recent email. We do sell ammunition to New Jersey if we have valid documents on file. If you would like to order ammunition please send all documentation via email attachment, fax to 1-800-992-8312, or mail to 5875 W Van Horn Tavern Rd, Columbia, MO 65203

 

If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. CT; Saturday and Sunday 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CT. You may also email us at [email protected].

 

Thanks for Your Business!

 

Meghan

MidwayUSA Customer Service

 

Midway is a company that is too vested in customer service to exclude ammunition sales to an entire state. Their communication skills may need to be enhanced by becoming pro-active, rather than waiting for the purchaser to call and complain and then explain the need for documentation.

 

Hope this settles it for everyone - just send a copy of your FPID when purchasing ammo. One day response time ain't too shabby either.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

 

Glad to here it. See my post above. My turnaround time was within a couple hours if I recall correctly.

[mipafox 438]

I doubt strongly that NJ is "going after" Internet sellers - the OP may have been told that to take the onus off the seller in order to retain their business, other than ammo. It is a vendors choice and Midway apparently feels it doesn't need NJ's ammunition dollars.

 

I can see NJ sending out a letter requesting vendors get a copy of the buyers FPID before shipping ammo. I know that I have had one on-line vendor request that of me and I have a copy of my FPID (SS# redacted) on my hard drive just for such an occurence.

 

I have no idea of the legal ramifications of trying to force an out of state vendor to comply with state laws in transacting interstate commerce, All a vendor has to do is ask for a copy of your FPID.

 

Ten years ago NJ forced out of state internet retailers to give up the customer lists and records of sales for cigarettes. Tens of thousands of people in NJ received bills for various taxes, the average person's bill being about $2,000 if I remember correctly.

 

NJ seems to have a way of getting out of state companies to tattle on you.

 

[robot_hell 72]

Update: Midway will indeed no longer ship handgun ammo to NJ.

 

This is a recent development because I bought handgun ammo from them a few months ago. I asked them for clarification on the date this went into effect.

 

From support:

Dear Steve,

 

Thank you for your email regarding your order.  I'm sorry but due to states laws we are not allowed to send handgun ammunition to your address.  We do have your FOID on file but unfortunately state laws still don't allow us to ship handgun ammo to you and .22cal ammo is considered handgun even if it's purpose is for a rifle.

 

I removed the handgun ammunition from your order and it was allowing my to continue to the payment page.

[reloaderguy 30]

Midway Blows! Whatever savings you would have got buying from them is offset by their outrageous shipping charges! Either learn to reload or buy from Natchez or Powder Valley!

[mipafox 438]

Midway Blows! Whatever savings you would have got buying from them is offset by their outrageous shipping charges! Either learn to reload or buy from Natchez or Powder Valley!

 

Natchez blows. I will never buy anything from them after that price gouging they tried to pull from 2007-2009. It wasn't everybody, it was basically Natchez and Cheaper than Dirt that were charging 2-5x what the rest of the market was on various ammo and items.

 

As far as Midway is concerned, I don't buy from them much, but I wouldn't have a gripe against any store simply because they refuse to sell to NJ. I certainly wouldn't sell to NJ, who needs that BS. Why on Earth should they have to put up with all your BS problems? And threats of lawsuits by your state? When there are hundreds of millions of people out there that actually don't want to screw them over.

[robot_hell 72]

Realoaderguy, I do reload but not for .380-- guess that needs to change now

 

I find CTD's shipping prices to be much higher, even out of one warehouse. I swore off of them a while ago. FWIW, I will continue to do business with Midway.

[mipafox 438]

Speaking of CTD, they still send me emails to this day. I got one this weekend titled "Ammunition For Your Carry Gun." Did any of you guys in Jersey get that one? That would be a kick in the crotch LOL

[robot_hell 72]

Speaking of CTD, they still send me emails to this day. I got one this weekend titled "Ammunition For Your Carry Gun." Did any of you guys in Jersey get that one? That would be a kick in the crotch LOL

 

Yes, I got it. I don't think they geo-target or otherwise change their mailings for a specific market.

 

That said, I do have a carry gun, it just doesn't get carried in Jersey

[MrSurfboard 1]

Update: Midway will indeed no longer ship handgun ammo to NJ.

 

This is a recent development because I bought handgun ammo from them a few months ago. I asked them for clarification on the date this went into effect.

 

From support:

 

Again, this is just Midway not wanted to deal with it, because there is NO NJ law that prohibits mail order sales of handgun ammo.

[mipafox 438]

 

 

Again, this is just Midway not wanted to deal with it, because there is NO NJ law that prohibits mail order sales of handgun ammo.

 

You want them to do what? Fight the good fight for Jersey? You guys won't even do that for yourselves.

 

Good for Midway. If they are getting shit from NJ's government, you guys should go complain to your government, not expect Midway to fix it for you.

[reloaderguy 30]

Again, this is just Midway not wanted to deal with it, because there is NO NJ law that prohibits mail order sales of handgun ammo.

 

I agree. Midway sucks!

[Underdog 1,593]

I inquired and got a customer service response back from Midway saying that NJ sales would be made as long as they had a copy of one's ID on file.

[bulpup 98]

April fools?

[rdsmith3 19]

I sent a scan of my FPID to Midway over the weekend, and got the following response:

 

Thank you for sending us a copy of your Firearm Purchaser Identification card. Your Identification card has been processed and added to your account. You can now place orders online at www.midwayusa.com.

 

If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. CT; Saturday and Sunday 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CT. You may also email us at [email protected].

 

Thanks for Your Business!

[Ronald Silver 2]

Good, we'll spend our $$$ at their competitors

[Njgunowner 2]

I buy from CTD all the time, they've never given me a hassle about ammo shipping.

[this_is_nascar 162]

So, it's this pretty much a 2-page thread about nothing? Sounds like, what's already been said a few times, is that you fax your FID info to them, they put it on file and you're good to go.

[ClangClang 14]

OP should change the title of this thread to avoid misleading future readers who don't have the patience to wade through 2 pages of back-and-forth that ultimately agree on nothing.

[stever 16]

I posted this earlier in another topic, but repeating here..I sent my foid and dv info in for Midways files and this is what I just got back this morning..time to buy and hoard. I also just called them on this matter and talked to a Julie who talked to her supervisor..I was told Midway has no way to electronically track NJ..whatever that means...maybe Larry Potterfield needs some letters, emails, calls personally..

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Dear Steve,

 

Thank you for your email with the included NJ Foid card. I'm sorry but due to New Jersey's regulations we are still unable to send handgun ammunition to your address.

 

If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. CT; Saturday and Sunday 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CT. You may also email us at [email protected].

 

Thanks for Your Business!

 

Daren

MidwayUSA Customer Service

[this_is_nascar 162]

Not sure why you even started the other thread, when you could have just bumped this one. See my response to your other thread.

[robot_hell 72]

Ray, I don't know how you're doing it, but maybe your account hasn't been "updated" to reflect the most recent changes. Expect the ability to purchase handgun ammo from Midway to disappear at any time.

[this_is_nascar 162]

Ray, I don't know how you're doing it, but maybe your account hasn't been "updated" to reflect the most recent changes. Expect the ability to purchase handgun ammo from Midway to disappear at any time.

 

 

That's what I'm fearful of too. Maybe it did change and they didn't zap my account as of yet. I'm thinking they're still OK with shipping handgun ammo to NJ if they have your FID on file and linked to your account.

[stever 16]

Not sure why you even started the other thread, when you could have just bumped this one. See my response to your other thread.

 

because I didn't see this one...

[this_is_nascar 162]

[this_is_nascar 162]

Just to note some additional information, apparrently Cheaper Than Dirt changed their policy sometime between April 2011 and April 2012. My ammo order back then, went through, without any action on my part. While wondering why I still hadn't received a shipping message concerning my order from the other day, I noticed this on my order confirmation email.

 

Your Order contains ammunition and is being ‘Shipped To’ a New Jersey address.

 

Based on New Jersey regulations we will need a copy of both your FOID card and Driver License before the order can be shipped. Also the order can only be shipped to the address listed on either of those 2 documents.

 

Please fax a copy of the FOID card and Driver License to us at (800) 596-5655 and include your order number on the fax for faster processing.

 

 

Like I said, that wasn't there this time last year.