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[bhunted 887]

Did a search and didn't see this posted so...

This is fairly long but very thought provoking!! Please read this in its entirety. If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

 

This man has put down on paper what many people are thinking, but are too cautious to express openly(including me up to now). I hope it never comes to what he is advocating, but I can certainly see where the possibility exists. God help us all if it ever does happen.

 

PS Here is what Wikipedia has to say about the author:

Dean Garrison (born 1955) is a contemporary American author and crime fiction novelist. He was born in Michigan , grew up in the Indiana , Illinois , and Texas , and received his B.A. degree from Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan . Garrison is a Crime Scene Technician in West Michigan . His research in the fields of crime scene investigation and Shooting Reconstruction are widely published in forensic journals under the name of "D.H. Garrison, Jr."

 

Subject: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

Posted on January 3, 2013 by Dean Garrison

 

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

 

About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

 

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

 

Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People . We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution .

 

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin. Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

 

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, j ust because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

 

Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama, talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

 

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

 

The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think . This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

 

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

 

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over. If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights .

 

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

 

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.

 

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

 

I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

 

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

 

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos .

 

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

 

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly . We are within our rights to do so.

 

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

 

Are you willing to die to take my guns?

 

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Through regulations, taxation, inflation of the money supply, trade restrictions, and tethers on private associations, government itself is nothing but a massive drain on prosperity. The situation has become deeply dangerous for the future of freedom in America, with young people unable to find jobs, opportunities being destroyed in sector after sector, banks and corporations living on the dole, and so many regulations that we are living under something nearly as egregious as Soviet-style central planning.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him --- better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford

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[ChrisJM981 924]

Hear hear!

[silverado427 10,717]

That was a great Post !!

[ruger9 0]

One of the better posts on the subject. We need more of this and less of "load your damn mags!"

 

(altho, it would be prudent to load your damn mags )

[Austin1629 1]

Being a decendent of a patriot who fought for what he believed, I couldn't have said it better!

[JrzyGuy30 0]

Wow +100

[Malsua 1,422]

The people intent on eliminating the 2nd amendment are well acquainted with the above sentiment. It's the reason you keep hearing the platitude "No one wants to take your guns". Their behavior however does not match their words. They do indeed want to take your guns and when they (meaning mostly democrats) get a majority, they WILL take your guns, incrementally. Each step is never enough for people to take up arms so they push and push and when pushed back, they retreat a little and stop. This is why we cannot allow them an inch because that then becomes the new baseline and the next step is just a "common sense" measure.

 

Eff 'em. It has to stop here.

[wooly bugger 1]

Great article. My only quibble is that he uses a couple of debunked quotes. The "lambs and two wolves" quote is very clever but has never been attributed to Franklin. "Lunch" is an anachronism, which didn't appear anywhere until the 1820s.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

 

And the Washington "Liberty Teeth," is also a fabrication.

[ruger9 0]

There are quite a few Founding Fathers quotes being tossed around on the pro-gun side that are not true, or can't be proven. Have to be very careful with that. I verify a founder's quote before reposting it.

[wooly bugger 1]

Here are good pages of bogus quote and one with confirmed ones:

 

Bogus

http://saf.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusFounderQuotes.htm

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html

 

Real

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndfqu.html

 

The one that really bothers me is the "liberty teeth" one. Especially the 99.9% part. Come on, the founders didn't talk like that.

 

Sticky?

[JOdoubleE953 0]

Powerful. Unfortunately I have no idea how I will act in some of the inevitable hypotheticals he is proposing. I do however see the appeal, and the honor associated with dieing for my country. My personal beliefs have prevented me from joining the military because I am not willing to die for my Government. But dieing for my Country is an entirely different situation.. Gives me a lot to think about

[ruger9 0]

I am not willing to die for my Government. But dieing for my Country is an entirely different situation.

 

Fantastic quote.

[JimmyAGR 54]

Great read, thanks for sharing. Not one inch!!!!

[kotkot 26]

anyone has original link to this article? I'd like to post it on our legislator's Facebook accounts..

 

yeah.. i am concerned that my name is getting on the government shit list.. but hey, i agree with the author 100%.

[Austin1629 1]

anyone has original link to this article? I'd like to post it on our legislator's Facebook accounts..

 

yeah.. i am concerned that my name is getting on the government shit list.. but hey, i agree with the author 100%.

 

http://dcclothesline...ility-to-fight/

 

Anybody with FB can like the blog page here... https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-DC-Clothesline/440522575997388

[P4Plenty 1]

Bravo sir bravo

 

United we stand divided we fall . Isn't that their saying ?

[Austin1629 1]

Here is the followup blog to his article......

 

http://dcclothesline.com/2013/02/19/is-it-time-to-organize-the-revolution/

[rhesusmonkey91 0]

Thomas payne anybody?

[Jersey Jubal 0]

Great piece.

 

What irks me is that is anyone who defends their 2nd Amendment Right when/if the government decides to strip us law-abiding citizens of our firearms will be portrayed by authorities and the media as an "extremist". What's worse is that it won't be the traitorous legislators "catching lead" but civil servants who might have no idea as to why they've been sent to a home to confiscate said firearms. Believe me if our elected officials knew that their lives would be on the line when attempting to strip law-abiding of their firearms none of the anti-gun legislation would be offered, passed, or enacted.

[JibbaJabba 7]

What freedom do we have if even the thought of siding with the OP halts us?

 

Thank you for the post, bhunted, I didn't know how badly I needed to read that until my eyes left the last words. So also, my sincere thanks go to Mr. Dean Garrison for a great article.

[9X19 125]

Thanks for posting John..Great article.

[Shane45 807]

"No one wants to take your guns"

 

This is true. The whole group does!

[JohnnyB 4,325]

Holy Necroposter 9X19!  But I thank you for digging up this thread and bringing back into the light! This applies today more than ever! More than it did in 2012!

 

Indeed, EVERYONE should take the time to read the first post from Bhunted.

 

Thank you John! I joined the forum after this and never saw it! It is something we all contemplate. That was a powerful article and much food for thought for those on the fence!

[Schrödinger's cat 87]

Thank you John, I learned a lot from that article. It also has me thinking, the current game the politicians are playing is to slowly and continuously chip away at our gun rights, where do we draw the line ? I think the magazine restriction is illegal, but I won't shoot someone for it. What about the safe act ? It's much easier to just not comply than to do a positive action. Perhaps something like 5000 people publicly protesting with their constitutionally legal but banned guns saying they won't comply would get the ball rolling.

[Lambo2936 297]

I'm quite glad this was dug up. I got to read it, now, as well. It most definitely applies now more than ever. If a California gun ban came to play in NJ i would most likely move to PA, to be honest... I'd much rather fight for my rights with 30rd mags.....

[Heavyopp 167]

so I can find it later...

[bhunted 887]

Wow, that was an old post. I'm glad 9x19 rehashed it because I need to be reminded too....

 

 

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[Kevin125 4,772]

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin. Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

 

 

I wonder how the state legislature would react to a letter stating that any sort of confiscation of firearms, magazines or ammunition will be responded to with deadly force. Signed by 1 million gun owners.

 

The reality is this government (NJ) and the Federal government have been creating laws in violation of the Constitution for years.  It's never been so blatant since Obama took office but it's been happening for a long time.

[345Sire 158]

Long perhaps, but well worth it, thanks, it was new to me.

Really something to think  about,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Kevin125 4,772]

I get the point but I don't think the solution to this is to start gun fight with cops knocking on your door.

 

Civil Disobedience, but by massive amounts of people would be a better path in my opinion.  Not likely to happen today.  But maybe at some point.