NICS checks

[dbldune 8]

Was speaking with a Federal Marshal today, he told me it is his understanding that the checks are being done through a 3rd party now. Can anyone confirm this? It seems that the government is too busy.

 

He also stated that when he does a NICS check on a person it is instantaneous.

 

Hope our personal info stays that way if the 3rd party thing is true.

[71ragtopgoat 23]

Sadly to be honest it does not matter.We are at the mercy of the ruling liberals. Unless that changes how they do things at the federal level means nothing

[remixer 1,645]

the billing is 3rd party. The nics checks are stilll being done by the same folks that always did it... unless something changed past few days

 

ETA: the nics check is instant but the back log to get them entered is the problem

[Tactical Turtle 11]

the billing is 3rd party. The nics checks are stilll being done by the same folks that always did it... unless something changed past few days

 

ETA: the nics check is instant but the back log to get them entered is the problem

Only in nj lol

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

I think there are several threads on this already. NJ is a POC (Point of Contact) state. Dealers used to use a (900) number to call in, and were charged $15 for each call on their bill. As I understand it, the state did away with the 900 number and changed it to a toll free, without adequately notifying the dealers. This is the fuzzy part - not sure how we got from being able to phone in the NICS check to the current FAX system. Previously the fax system had been used during peak periods when it was tough to get through on the phone. Now it is the only system. The faxes go to a private company in FL that bundles the NICS requests - by what crteria I don't know. They are then forwarded to the NJSP - again, by what method I am not sure. The NJSP then do the actual NICS check, accessing the FBI NICS database and other NJ databases. If approved the dealer is then called and given the approval over the phone.

 

Makes no sense to me, but it may be a prelude to this FL company creating an e-check system, which would hopefully, again, put the "instant" in NICS. Timeline for this transition is unknown - hopefully not like the restoration of the Essex Cty mental health records :wild:

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[halbautomatisch 60]

From what I understand, the requirement to fax in NICS requests is done when the volume of requests overloads their ability to process them. Since Newtown, they have been overloaded without end, and therefore on fax only mode. I would imagine whenever they get caught up again, phoning the requests in will be an option again - so figure around the year 2059 or so.

[jonfoxx 4]

Does anyone actually know who this FL company is??? Name, address???

[jm1827 284]

Does anyone actually know who this FL company is??? Name, address???

 

And are their budget numbers public, such as operating costs and total revenue? Would be nice to know.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Does anyone actually know who this FL company is??? Name, address???

 

Champion Communications

[jvheitz 5]

I think there are several threads on this already. NJ is a POC (Point of Contact) state. Dealers used to use a (900) number to call in, and were charged $15 for each call on their bill. As I understand it, the state did away with the 900 number and changed it to a toll free, without adequately notifying the dealers. This is the fuzzy part - not sure how we got from being able to phone in the NICS check to the current FAX system. Previously the fax system had been used during peak periods when it was tough to get through on the phone. Now it is the only system. The faxes go to a private company in FL that bundles the NICS requests - by what crteria I don't know. They are then forwarded to the NJSP - again, by what method I am not sure. The NJSP then do the actual NICS check, accessing the FBI NICS database and other NJ databases. If approved the dealer is then called and given the approval over the phone.

 

Makes no sense to me, but it may be a prelude to this FL company creating an e-check system, which would hopefully, again, put the "instant" in NICS. Timeline for this transition is unknown - hopefully not like the restoration of the Essex Cty mental health records :wild:

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

So now that they are not being charged for calling in the NICS check, does this reduce the NICS fee that we pay?

[remixer 1,645]

trust me.. its going to get worse.. we have 2 holidays coming up. Easter and good friday, if those are legal holidays get ready for 10 day nics

 

 

The phone lines will open again once the volume is back to the norm.

[johnnyrebel70 0]

From what I was told yesterday the people at the state police that perform the NICS check wanted more help hired, that request was denied so in typical state worker fashion there are in a slow down

[jm1827 284]

From what I was told yesterday the people at the state police that perform the NICS check wanted more help hired, that request was denied so in typical state worker fashion there are in a slow down

OK- so assuming there is a union or at least some sort of protection you can't fire anyone. But, if this were a real business simply look at the average # of nics that each employee does per day or week or month and tell them that for every one you execute over the average you recieve a bonus of X- could be $0.50 or $1 per, either way it would increase production and increase revenue...

[Candide 0]

How is there such a backlog when theres nothing left to buy?!

 

Gun shops have nearly empty shelves.

 

Can't do nics checks when there isnt much to buy.

[PK90 3,570]

I keep getting firearms everyday.

[wooly bugger 1]

From what I understand, the requirement to fax in NICS requests is done when the volume of requests overloads their ability to process them. Since Newtown, they have been overloaded without end, and therefore on fax only mode. I would imagine whenever they get caught up again, phoning the requests in will be an option again - so figure around the year 2059 or so.

If it's truly because of a deluge in purchases, then I'm happy to wait a week. It's more important to me to swell our ranks than for me to have an instant gun. Of course, that's assuming that when the run dies down, we go back to normal, which is by no means assured.

[wooly bugger 1]

How is there such a backlog when theres nothing left to buy?!

 

Gun shops have nearly empty shelves.

 

Can't do nics checks when there isnt much to buy.

There's plenty left to buy. Online, at least. I've got an M1 Garand and a Mosin-Nagant M44 waiting on a check. AR's are even starting to reappear.

[BlueLineFish 615]

How is there such a backlog when theres nothing left to buy?!

 

Gun shops have nearly empty shelves.

 

Can't do nics checks when there isnt much to buy.

 

Not true. Inventory leaves as soon as it come in. No need to stock it. Not to mention tons of people are ordering stuff online to ffls for transfer.

[Candide 0]

I'm just saying that every store I walk into is empty

[EX Carnival man 223]

I went down to lawman's supply today with permit in hand for my G30 Gen4. I was told 10 days for the NICS

[djg0770 481]

My recent experience, 7 days on the dot.

[sage613 8]

four days and counting...

[oldguysrule649 397]

5 calendar days and counting here. (Paperwork was submitted to NICS at approx. noontime on Saturday 3/16.)

[410guy 5]

Bought shotgun last week...tomorrow will be day 7 of waiting

[9X19 125]

So now that they are not being charged for calling in the NICS check, does this reduce the NICS fee that we pay?

FFL's are still being charged $15 via their credit card for every fax they send in.

[9X19 125]

Bought shotgun last week...tomorrow will be day 7 of waiting

you should be very close.

[TommyGun 5]

It took 8 days of waiting last week before approval.

[reloaderguy 30]

Was speaking with a Federal Marshal today, he told me it is his understanding that the checks are being done through a 3rd party now. Can anyone confirm this? It seems that the government is too busy.

 

He also stated that when he does a NICS check on a person it is instantaneous.

 

Hope our personal info stays that way if the 3rd party thing is true.

 

The second letter in NICS means "instant"! There are no t enough gun stores in NJ to justify the delays! The state is doing this on purpose. When will people realize this!

[Arbelest 29]

I went down to lawman's supply today with permit in hand for my G30 Gen4. I was told 10 days for the NICS

 

They told me the same thing yesterday. I was a little surprised I thought the timeframe was down to 3-4 days.

[dwamp2006 1]

sent nics thursday of last week, came back and picked up gun today, 7 days (6 really if you dont count them being there on sundays)