555R 0 Posted April 7, 2013 I'm slowly collecting parts for a build The topic states the parts I want to use. Do I need to send these to an FFL or is it ok to ship to my house. This should end up more than 16" for legality but still worried if this will get me in trouble before the rifle is made Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matyb123 0 Posted April 7, 2013 as long as you do not have enough parts to build the rifle they are just pieces of metal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrym 19 Posted April 7, 2013 This might not actually net you 16 inches. Barrel length is measured to the muzzle, not the shoulder of the threads which is what the crush/peel washer and brake will thread to. YMMV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 7, 2013 Both total 16.4"? I'm emailing noveske to confirm the combination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted April 7, 2013 I also am concerned about length. Although the surefire is 2.7ish, it dont add 2.7 inches. Surefires tend to heavily overlap the barrel. So it may actually add less than 2" which wont be enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted April 7, 2013 Perfectly legal to have shipped to you, if you are in the middle of a build I would pin the muzzle brake to the barrel sooner then later. I'd do that before I build my lower, just to play it safe. When you get everything shipped to you, screw the brake on and measure it. If it doesn't reach at least 16.1", return it for a longer brake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Just out of curiosity, why not just get a 14.5" barrel? If the final overall barrel length is going to be the legal 16", why not get the longest barrel you can and still make minimum length? What advantages does shaving 0.8" of barrel but making it up with a comp/brake offer? Edited April 7, 2013 by High Exposure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted April 7, 2013 Just out of curiosity, why not just get a 14.5" barrel? I think because he jumped on the first Noveske barrel avail in a while? I saw it come up the other day for sale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted April 7, 2013 I think because he jumped on the first Noveske barrel avail in a while? I saw it come up the other day for sale Ah, got it. OP said (emphasis mine): The topic states the parts I want to use With the "want" I thought it was a choice he made on purpose. Good luck with the build 555R Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 7, 2013 Yup one of the first barrels available in a while. GOOD CALL Zerosignal. Plus I have a 14.7" built already and feel this noveske barrel will probably be more accurate also. I am hoping it works out for me. I've emailed noveske and Surefire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted April 7, 2013 Yup one of the first barrels available in a while. GOOD CALL Zerosignal. Plus I have a 14.7" built already and feel this noveske barrel will probably be more accurate also. I am hoping it works out for me. I've emailed noveske and Surefire. I was tempted for my Noveske build but I am gonna hold out for a 16" from them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 7, 2013 RECOIL magazine had a muzzle brake buyers guide. I need to consult that for possible long brakes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted April 7, 2013 If I remember correctly, that barrel length was spec'ed by Noveske in order to permanently attach their KX3 "Pig" flash hider and make it a 16" barrel avoiding SBR issues but keeping the barrel as short as possible. I do not think that Surefire brake is going to cut the mustard length wise, and the KX3 is a no-go in our glorious state. You may want to contact Novese riki-tik and see if they offer a solution before you are stuck with a barrel you can't use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted April 7, 2013 If I remember correctly, that barrel length was spec'ed by Noveske in order to permanently attach their KX3 "Pig" flash hider and make it a 16" barrel avoiding SBR issues but keeping the barrel as short as possible. Yes I think you are correct sir... If cant cancel it. Sell it to some douche on gun broker.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted April 7, 2013 SJC Titan is probably one of the longest. I have this on my Noveske. This thing is loud for your neighbors though as it sends the blast sideways. It is not really noticeable for the shooter though. Recoil magazine also shows this as the longest at 3.25 inches. Take your barrel and measure it to the point of the threads. Add 3.25 inches and a regular crush washer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 8, 2013 Confirmed by Surefire. This will not work to make a 16" non nfa barrel. Dammit, I want a noveske barrel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 9, 2013 Any ideas who makes a good muzzle brake that adds a total length of 2.5" to a barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted April 9, 2013 Any ideas who makes a good muzzle brake that adds a total length of 2.5" to a barrel. I'd contact and check, but at 4.75" and 24 oz, this sucker might have you covered. http://custommuzzlebrakes.com/#!/~/product/category=2932347&id=16658131 of course if you spec it out ready to rock and roll, it's also over $200. So... You are going to be limited by the fact that most muzzle brakes are designed to fit into a 1"x3" envelope form muzzle crown to front of the brake. You'll have to look at the ones pushing the envelope to see if you get 2.5" after the crown. SJC titan is 3.5" so take off about 3/4" for threads, that's 2.75" left. It's loud but effective and not super heavy. benny hill rolling thunder is also 3.5" long, so the same math might apply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 9, 2013 that link goes to a 50BMG but i looked at the 5.56 brakes...i emailed them and from what i read it looks promising albeit a huge brake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted April 10, 2013 Any ideas who makes a good muzzle brake that adds a total length of 2.5" to a barrel. Check on the SJC Titan. I measured from the first port on the brake closest to the barrel to the end. It is 2.75 inches. As stated earlier, Recoil mag lists the brake's total length at 3.25 inches. http://stores.sjcguns.com/Detail.bok?no=52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555R 0 Posted April 11, 2013 Hey vtecpaoche post some pics please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted May 7, 2013 Any ideas who makes a good muzzle brake that adds a total length of 2.5" to a barrel. http://custommuzzlebrakes.com/#!/~/product/category=2932347&id=13439223 2.9" length Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted May 21, 2013 Hey vtecpaoche post some pics please Sorry, missed your post about pictures. Here you go. In the first picture, you can see that it adds a little over 3.25 inches when measuring from where the threads start. The crush washer gives it that little bit extra. The second picture is from above but I did not line up the ruler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites