My family dosen't agree with my 2nd Amendment right?? WTF?

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Hi all this will be my first created thread and i felt like this is bothering me so what better place to get it off my chest than this forum.

As you can see from my signature I am new to purchasing firearms and have yet to even be printed until next week. Let me first state that i am 26 and nobody in my immediate family is a gun owner, we have all lived in cushy suburban neighborhoods for my whole life at least.

Sooo, making the long story short, I moved out a couple years ago and, over the years, went to the range 3 or 4 times with my brother-in-law who is a local LEO and firearms instructor. I became very interested in shooting his glock 22 and 26 and decided i would start this rediculous FID process in NJ.

Every so often I started mentioning it to my parents, grandparents, sisters, uncle , you name it. I would gradually ease it into conversations and let them know i am intending on exercising my 2nd amendment right. Well, let me just tell you guys i had no idea some of my family thought i shouldnt have a gun because i play first person shooter video games and am an avid paintballer and "its dangerous" or "i'll shoot somone". My dad even went so far as to say "Your not trying to get a gun to do anything extreme are you?" Obviously I was shocked and somewhat offended.

Other comments from family members were typical as you could imagine. I wont list them but here are a few randoms....."Why do you need a gun?".... "You never wanted one before why do you now?"..."Why do you care how long your permits take you will have them eventually?"....or....."No Grandma, the police will not always be standing behind you to help"......etc.

What is everyone's issue? my argumentative statement to them is always "stop being intimidated or afraid of firearms and instead know how to safely operate them and respect them in general, you don't know when that particular skill may save your life"

Anyone else forbidden to bring up guns at family functions for fear of retribution? I'd imagine for some of you its a regular dinner table convo. Thanks for sharing your experiences and comments, or what you have encountered yourself

[TheLugNutZ 21]

Best bet is to try to educate them as to the "good" reasons for owning them.

[67gtonut 847]

You can slowly try and educate them.... but for the most part, that might be tough.

 

not worth creating a rift in the family...... just dont discuss that subject with those family members.

[TheLugNutZ 21]

ALso, many dont realize its actually FUN to go shooting. Its a hobby/sport and is enjoyable for a lot of people. Some think we only go to the range to practice killing techniques.

[JayWilling 33]

So it's YOUR family is the reason we have Lautenmummy and "Lola" Menendez, and the gaggle of slimy democrat hens in the Assembly.

I wondered how it could be so....

[JrzyGuy30 0]

Find the family member offering least resistance and take them to the range with you once you have your setup.. One person at a time. Once you gain there approval, you'll have someone else who will help you find the next person to take to the range and get a buy in to the 2A.

 

Also - don't bring up the topic unless someone else does. Don't let the family relationship take a toll over it. Just do above.

 

Good luck and welcome to the club!

[Alex1788 0]

I'm in the same situation, my mom told me that only people with insecurities need guns . . . my dad is cool with it. My mom is very close minded and religious so I feel like I can never reason with her.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Best bet is to try to educate them as to the "good" reasons for owning them.

You can slowly try and educate them.... but for the most part, that might be tough.

 

not worth creating a rift in the family...... just dont discuss that subject with those family members.

 

I agree i'll do that gradually not worth discussing if it causes issues

 

So it's YOUR family is the reason we have Lautenmummy and "Lola" Menendez, and the gaggle of slimy democrat hens in the Assembly.

I wondered how it could be so....

 

oh...ok then...most of my fam is far from liberal except the grandys

 

Find the family member offering least resistance and take them to the range with you once you have your setup.. One person at a time. Once you gain there approval, you'll have someone else who will help you find the next person to take to the range and get a buy in to the 2A.

 

Also - don't bring up the topic unless someone else does. Don't let the family relationship take a toll over it. Just do above.

 

Good luck and welcome to the club!

 

Thanks JrzyGuy, this seems like outstanding advice. I already know a few fam members who would ease into it and give it a chance.

[PeteF 1,044]

I'd guess your sister has learned to deal with a gun in the house.

Ask your relatives do they fear for her, because hubby is armed?

As to "need" ask if they have smoke alarms, CO drectors, a fire extinguisher, or a pressure relief valve on the hot water heater.

Have they ever "needed" those devices?

You don't need them until you do, and then its too late.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

I'm in the same situation, my mom told me that only people with insecurities need guns . . . my dad is cool with it. My mom is very close minded and religious so I feel like I can never reason with her.

initially my dad was all about it so i get the sense he goes back and forth

[e80hydro 120]

Don't worry about what they think. It's your business, not theirs. Tell them it's to make up for a small penis or something.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

I'd guess your sister has learned to deal with a gun in the house.

Ask your relatives do they fear for her, because hubby is armed?

As to "need" ask if they have smoke alarms, CO drectors, a fire extinguisher, or a pressure relief valve on the hot water heater.

Have they ever "needed" those devices?

You don't need them until you do, and then its too late.

 

 

so very tru....all of this ^^^.

 

I know they would say because he is a an LEO but i agree....thanks Pete

 

..and everyone else with constructive info

[NYMetsFan86 9]

-not bringing it up first at fam gatherings

-take willing fam memebrs to shoot

-gradually educate fam memebers

-its my freakin buisness and no one elses

 

got a nice list going haha

[Fred2 367]

Tell them target shooting is fun.

 

I like the fact that to be good at it requires total concentration.

Breathing, heartbeat, sight picture, timing your squeeze, etc.

 

Kind of Zen like.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

that makes perfect sense actually.

[Fred2 367]

that makes perfect sense actually.

 

I get one good idea a week,

I guess I am pretty much done now :-)

 

Focus on the fun, and ignore the 2A, self defense, etc.

[scohen2002 0]

I'm in a similar position. My entire family tree is highly educated very liberal democrats. I, with my 4 year bachelor degree from a prestigious university, am the least educated member of my family. No one else owns a gun or shoots, but i've been drawn to them for as long as i can remember. I bought a handgun on my 21st birthday the very first day i could legally do so and i kept it a secret for probably 10 years. About the time i had my first daughter (2005) was when it finally started to dawn on me that guns were more than just fun at the range and i could actually, however remote the chances are, protect my family if i needed to. This is when i started talking about them and told my parents that i owned one. Now i don't go out of my way to advertise it but when the subject comes up i voice my opinions in support of gun ownership. I think of myself as somewhat of an evangelist for the cause because of how drastically i break the mold of the average gun owner. I've gotten a shocked reaction most of the time that people find out i own many guns and enjoy shooting them for sport. I also emphasize the fact that i enjoy different aspects of shooting like trap and skeet and target but am always sure to make the crystal clear point that if i am in a position to defend my home i will do so and be glad i had the right to at least try to defend it with a fair fight against an armed attacker.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

great post thanks for sharing that. Its good to hear other peoples similar experiences

[mikeyboyeee 66]

my family who ar basically all liberal except my father.

He is a registered Dem, but is really a repub or indy like me now.

 

They ALL hate guns (father included) and were very dissapointed when I voiced my desire to own them.

 

Got into a HUGE screaming match with my stepmother about guns few weeks back.

 

I said, well, if u ever need someone with a gun to protect you, dont call me.

 

She said you wouldnt get here in time anyway. I said, right, just like the police wouldn't.

 

I could honestly care less ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK OF GUNS OR MY OWNERSHIP AND ENJOYMENT OF THEM.,

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Sux that it got to that point. I'll be avoiding that level of argument at all costs. We've already had a rocky dinner discussion last week that ended with my mom refusing that shooting is a hobby. As everyone stated previously it seems to come down to being educated about the subject. However, all of our families are different and we all get different reactions/responses.

 

Thanks for posting Mikey, i can relate

[302w 83]

They're afraid because they're unfamiliar with guns and it's foreign to them. Take your time and be professional. Offer to take someone shooting in time.

[Maksim 1,504]

Well, the first thing.... keep your mouth shut around aunts, uncles etc. =) Unless it is someone you live them, they don't need to know initially, who did you use as references?

 

I remember my brother getting getting guns years ago, my parents gave him crap, like why do you need them.

 

Right now I have a lot more than my brother ever did and my wife is on board, my mother understands it, my dad is pretty much ok, just against CCW, but he does shoot from time to time. Extended family? I could care less what they think.... they do know I shoot matches throughout the country and own the forum.

 

I see you are a chiropractor? If so, you can use shooting as a marketing/work thing..... others go golf.... you go shoot.

 

I can't recall the number of times I have met up with my own clients at the range to sign financial documents ad paperwork. hehe.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Indeed. my plan is to go a few more times with my brother-in-law, dad, and uncle. This seems like a great start to expose them and make them a bit more comfortable. Everyone on this forum has been exceedingly helpful in making suggestions and I thank you again

[osb 0]

Most people can't understand why someone would want to buy something designed to kill or produce major injury. For most of us, that is the exact reason we want it, to be able to kill or produce major injury in the event we have to protect our families or selves.

 

Most opposite sides look at the worst case scenarios.

 

"You'll get shot with it / Someone will use it against you"

"You'll shoot yourself with it"

"R U TERRORIST?"

"Your daughter will find it"(I have a daughter too)

 

The list goes on.

 

 

My viewpoint on having a firearm at home changed drastically after seeing "Law Abiding Citizen". The home invasion scene was enough to make me start this process. I previously thought having a bat and knives laying around the house was enough.. NOPE.

 

I will be having this same discussion with my wife once all my paperwork goes through, she's very anti-gun and not very happy that I am doing this..But she doesn't really have a choice in the matter. A little education on firearm safety and shooting will go a long way..she may not "LIKE" it..but she'll know how to use once and safety check it.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Well, the first thing.... keep your mouth shut around aunts, uncles etc. =) Unless it is someone you live them, they don't need to know initially, who did you use as references?

 

I remember my brother getting getting guns years ago, my parents gave him crap, like why do you need them.

 

Right now I have a lot more than my brother ever did and my wife is on board, my mother understands it, my dad is pretty much ok, just against CCW, but he does shoot from time to time. Extended family? I could care less what they think.... they do know I shoot matches throughout the country and own the forum.

 

I see you are a chiropractor? If so, you can use shooting as a marketing/work thing..... others go golf.... you go shoot.

 

I can't recall the number of times I have met up with my own clients at the range to sign financial documents ad paperwork. hehe.

 

Maksim, all noted...I used my brother-in-law as i said he is an LEO and instructor and I also used my office manager who i am close with.

 

I see the reference to mixing biusness with common interest and couldnt agree more. I'm not a chiropractor but i do work in sports medicine. Im sure ill figure out a way to apply your idea in a buisness sense in the future...thanks much

[NYMetsFan86 9]

Most people can't understand why someone would want to buy something designed to kill or produce major injury. For most of us, that is the exact reason we want it, to be able to kill or produce major injury in the event we have to protect our families or selves.

 

Most opposite sides look at the worst case scenarios.

 

"You'll get shot with it / Someone will use it against you"

"You'll shoot yourself with it"

"R U TERRORIST?"

"Your daughter will find it"(I have a daughter too)

 

The list goes on.

 

 

My viewpoint on having a firearm at home changed drastically after seeing "Law Abiding Citizen". The home invasion scene was enough to make me start this process. I previously thought having a bat and knives laying around the house was enough.. NOPE.

 

I will be having this same discussion with my wife once all my paperwork goes through, she's very anti-gun and not very happy that I am doing this..But she doesn't really have a choice in the matter. A little education on firearm safety and shooting will go a long way..she may not "LIKE" it..but she'll know how to use once and safety check it.

 

 

I saw that movie and I know the scene you are referring to. My girlfriend lives with me and feels the same way as your wife. The will come around. im going to take her shooting as well

[Maksim 1,504]

Most people can't understand why someone would want to buy something designed to kill or produce major injury. For most of us, that is the exact reason we want it, to be able to kill or produce major injury in the event we have to protect our families or selves.

 

Most opposite sides look at the worst case scenarios.

 

"You'll get shot with it / Someone will use it against you"

"You'll shoot yourself with it"

"R U TERRORIST?"

"Your daughter will find it"(I have a daughter too)

 

The list goes on.

 

 

My viewpoint on having a firearm at home changed drastically after seeing "Law Abiding Citizen". The home invasion scene was enough to make me start this process. I previously thought having a bat and knives laying around the house was enough.. NOPE.

 

I will be having this same discussion with my wife once all my paperwork goes through, she's very anti-gun and not very happy that I am doing this..But she doesn't really have a choice in the matter. A little education on firearm safety and shooting will go a long way..she may not "LIKE" it..but she'll know how to use once and safety check it.

 

And here is the thing, I do not know exactly how much I agree with it. I know plenty of people who buy guns just to go to the range and have fun, not exactly for home protection.

 

I dread the thought of having to use any of my firearms for self defense..... only as a last resort. I would rather avoid the conflict altogether if possible. Bringing up self defense with anti gun people is often a tough battle.

 

When you bring up sporting purpose or hunting, you will not get an argument.... especially with things like high capacity magazines, folding stocks, etc.

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/why-jews-hate-guns.htm

 

You should read this article, even if you're not Jewish.

It'll explain a lot about your family, mine, and many many others.

Then print some copies and distribute them to the haters.

You might find one or two without clenched-tight sphincters!

[NYMetsFan86 9]

interesting. im at work now but will read this evening after i see iron man 3.....

[osb 0]

Most people can't understand why someone would want to buy something designed to kill or produce major injury. For most of us, that is the exact reason we want it, to be able to kill or produce major injury in the event we have to protect our families or selves.

 

Most opposite sides look at the worst case scenarios.

 

Should have said:

 

I think what most people can't understand IS why someone would want to buy something designed to kill or produce major injury. I think, for most of us, that is the exact reason we want it, to be able to kill or produce major injury in the event we have to protect our families or selves.

 

Most opposite sides look at the worst case scenarios.

 

I agree, I dread the day I would ever have to shoot someone..but I would rather not be a victim of a violent crime against me or my own.