S532 Title: Strengthens State's assault weapons ban.

[ogfarmer 138]

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/S1000/532_I1.HTM

 

STATEMENT

 

     This bill would strengthen the State’s current assault weapons ban by revising the definition of an assault weapon to include:   rifles with detachable magazines and one military style feature; semi-automatic shotguns with one military style feature; and semi-automatic pistols with one military style feature.

     The current definition of an assault weapon sets forth a list of prohibited firearms and specifically includes any firearm that is “substantially identical” to any of the enumerated firearms.  Under State regulations, a semi-automatic firearm is to be considered substantially identical to an enumerated firearm if it meets certain criteria.  This bill codifies these regulations while expanding the number of firearms that would be considered assault weapons by adding criteria and reducing the number of criteria that must be met from two to one.  For example, under current regulations, a semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two listed criteria would be considered an assault weapon.  These criteria include:  a folding telescoping stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and a grenade launcher.  Under the bill, additional criteria are added including a thumbhole stock and a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand.  The bill also requires that only one criteria be met, rather than the currently required two.

     This bill also would reduce the maximum capacity of a legal ammunition magazine in this State to seven rounds.  Under current law, it is unlawful to own or possess an ammunition magazine that is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition.

[Vlad G 345]

It also makes compensators and evil feature. 

[ogfarmer 138]

Goes from 2 feature down to 1 and 7 rds max

[Vlad G 345]

TBH, with one sponsor, I don't see this one. 

[gunguy1960 2]

Lets interview the inner city youth gun owners and get their views on these gun law proposals, post it on you tube.

[chris327 30]

im sure this has been discussed already but can someone clairfy. The heller & mcdonald ruling that a classification of firearms cannot be banned in general. How does this not apply that they are banning a classification, ("assault firearms")

[NYMetsFan86 9]

god help us all...

[Buns of Guns 7]

im sure this has been discussed already but can someone clairfy. The heller & mcdonald ruling that a classification of firearms cannot be banned in general. How does this not apply that they are banning a classification, ("assault firearms")

 

First of all, the 7 round restriction should be unconstitutional, since I don't even think 7 round mags exist (except New York City somehow has a 5 round limit for long guns?).  Secondly, my objective interpretation (personal opinions aside) is that you simply cannot ban semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazine capability.  You can ban "evil features" but when you get right down to it, semi-automatic rifles accepting detachable magazines are a commonly used firearm type, which is protected by the Heller ruling. To the best of my knowledge, I don't know of any jurisdiction in the U.S. that has gotten away with banning semi-auto's with detachable mags.

[Hooligan 0]

Secondly, my objective interpretation (personal opinions aside) is that you simply cannot ban semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazine capability.  You can ban "evil features" but when you get right down to it, semi-automatic rifles accepting detachable magazines are a commonly used firearm type, which is protected by the Heller ruling. To the best of my knowledge, I don't know of any jurisdiction in the U.S. that has gotten away with banning semi-auto's with detachable mags.

 

The bill doesn't ban semi-autos with detachable magazines.  It bans semi-autos with detachable magazines IF they have just one additional evil feature. Unfortunately that means anything with a detachable magazine AND a pistol grip or thumb hole would now be illegal.  

[mipafox 438]

Considering most people in NJ aren't going to do anything about this, and it falls on us few,

 

 

What has each person that posted in this thread done to address this?

 

[MeanderingCuban 8]

im sure this has been discussed already but can someone clairfy. The heller & mcdonald ruling that a classification of firearms cannot be banned in general. How does this not apply that they are banning a classification, ("assault firearms")

It's not banning the firearm itself, It's banning a feature.  Rather, it does not say you cannot have an semi automatic rifle, it states you cannot have a semi automatic rifle with a pistol grip and detachable magazine. 

[Buns of Guns 7]

It's not banning the firearm itself, It's banning a feature.  Rather, it does not say you cannot have an semi automatic rifle, it states you cannot have a semi automatic rifle with a pistol grip and detachable magazine. 

Exactly.  Which is why the courts won't strike this down as being unconstitutional.

[Bt Doctur 188]

Anybody know how this Nia H Gill. got elected?  Comes out with some really odd bills

[TR20 47]

Anybody know how this Nia H Gill. got elected?  Comes out with some really odd bills

 

Apparently she is an attorney, is more than vocal and tied in to the "party".  She is from from the Oranges, Essex county.  I cannot bear to hear her speak.  I wish the hell she would pack it in and let someone else take a shot at representing her district. 

[jm1827 284]

OK- here is her contact info.  Time to start mailing, emailing and calling her office about this.  I wasn't able to find her direct email address but you can access her through the NJ State legislature website.  I did look at the bills she sponsored, whew she is a doosey!

 

Phone- (973) 509-0388

 

Office addres-

 

39 South Fullerton Avenue
2nd Fl.
Suite 7
Montclair, NJ 07042

 

 

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

OK, I get the mag limits, because they foolishly believe that mass shooters will adhere to them. But what do they really hope to accomplish by banning cosmetic features?

[NYMetsFan86 9]

to throw it in our face and show us that they hold hammer and we cannot do anything about it because we are the fools who put them in charge...

[Shane45 807]

I indeed agree it is punitive. I cant remember anytime in NJ that there has been this much push back against anti 2A. And so I agree it is a move to rattle the saber so to speak. I also wonder if all the recent efforts has caught the attention of the NRA and motivated them to help those that try and help themselves instead of viewing us as a lost cause.

[Cemeterys Gun Blob 165]

im sure this has been discussed already but can someone clairfy. The heller & mcdonald ruling that a classification of firearms cannot be banned in general. How does this not apply that they are banning a classification, ("assault firearms")

 

State Governments don't care about Heller/McDonald....they'll pass what they want, and you'll have to take your case to SCOTUS .

[gunguy1960 2]

Seven rounds, highly scientific number reflecting a "safe" number, or just a lucky feeling?

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

And they are doing this why?  As a deal for clarifying the smart gun law?

[MeanderingCuban 8]

And they are doing this why?  As a deal for clarifying the smart gun law?

They are doing all of this to simply try and get rid of every possible firearm from the state of NJ.

[Silence Dogood 468]

How about then banning vehicles with 'military style features' like Jeeps and Hummers.   That will cut down on the death rate from automobile accidents by taking these 'weapons of war' off our streets.   Plus, you never know when a Jeep driver might 'snap' and run into a crowd or something.   Anyone driving a Hummer needs mental heath testing.

 

 

Riiiigggttt

[MrSurfboard 1]

They are doing all of this to simply try and get rid of every possible firearm from the state of NJ.

 

Correct 

[matty 810]

FTFY

They are doing all of this to simply try and get rid of every possible privately owned  firearm from the state of NJ.

[Dan 177]

This is unreal. You'd have to quit your job and become a full time activist/lobbyist to just keep up with all of the anti 2A civil right stuff going on right now in Trenton. Not to mention it's all become a party line political battle. These legislators are just voting for the side their leadership tells them to. Disgusting how they are using our civil rights as a weapon in party political war.

[Buns of Guns 7]

FTFY

Nice catch!

 

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[Worn_Holster 2]

     This bill would strengthen the State’s current assault weapons ban by revising the definition of an assault weapon to include: rifles with detachable magazines and one military style feature;

 

Does this mean that they hope to classify bolt action rifles with detachable mags and another feature such as a threaded muzzle as assault weapons?

[T Bill 649]

No, bill is specific. Semi-Automatic is the qualifier.

[NYMetsFan86 9]

     This bill would strengthen the State’s current assault weapons ban by revising the definition of an assault weapon to include: rifles with detachable magazines and one military style feature;

 

Does this mean that they hope to classify bolt action rifles with detachable mags and another feature such as a threaded muzzle as assault weapons?

 

I wouldn't be surprised. since we all know these crap bills don't actually serve a purpose toward public safety, we can assume they are a sad attempt to push legal gun owners to "give up" on having all the fun tacticool weapons we like. In there eyes all we should need is a rape whistle, so if they chip away at evil eatures features gradually, they believe we will say " oh well i guess we cant own an AR-15"...Guess what, F**ck them, look what they did in NJ with the pistol grip stock ar-15's