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New NRA Commercials - Carol Bowne made the cut!

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HBecwithFn7    296

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The NRA is starting to buy a bit of air time on the Fox News Channel. Several of their spokespeople are making 30-45sec. ads on 2A.
One, for example, features Dana Loesch and another features Marcus Luttrell.

 

Well, I just happened to see another and, lo and behold, it feaured WLP himself, lamenting over the state of NJ gun laws, and citing the Carol Bowne case directly. Not on YouTube yet, but it should be there shortly.

 

First, it's good to see these ads on Fox News, but where we really need to see them is the one place we never will.... on the MSM! :facepalm: Failing that, it's good to see the NRA step up their advertising and even better to see WLP himself mention NJ and Carol Bowne. Every little bit helps. I hope they keep up the pressure, and find a way to get these ads onto MSM chanels (a  Herculean effort, yes, but there's always hope).

 

 

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Pizza Bob    1,488

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Thanks for telling me what I already know about NJ and Carol Bowne, Wayne.

 

How about a video explaining what the NRA proposes to do to change the situation?

 

 

I just wasted one and a half minutes of my life.

 

Sheeeze, there's no pleasing you people. First, this ad isn't aimed at you and I. We are members of a very small NJ minority that are aware of the firearms laws and how they affect us. These ads are targeted to bring new people to the fold. Fence sitters, firearms owners that don't have a clue and others. You're not going to change an anti's mind with something like this - it's too logical. But you have to make people aware before we have any hope of change.

 

And this Waaa, waaaa, waaa, what's the NRA done for us mentality is just wrong. The NRA works on a national level with lobbyists in Washington and keeping us appraised of what is happening in this country wirh regard to current and potential firearms law.

 

Each state has an NRA affiliate organization. In NJ that would be the ANJRPC and if you don't think they are active, you haven't been paying attention. Just check out the latest newsletter where they list their accomplishments.

 

Maybe things don't change fast enough for the instant-gratification generation, but the wheels of government grind slowly and in a predominantly blue state, I'd say we're making progress. So instead of bad-mouthing them every chance you get, try supporting them so at least we present a united front.

 

Rant off.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

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JC_68Westy    1,024

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Sheeeze, there's no pleasing you people. First, this ad isn't aimed at you and I. We are members of a very small NJ minority that are aware of the firearms laws and how they affect us. These ads are targeted to bring new people to the fold. Fence sitters, firearms owners that don't have a clue and others. You're not going to change an anti's mind with something like this - it's too logical. But you have to make people aware before we have any hope of change.

 

And this Waaa, waaaa, waaa, what's the NRA done for us mentality is just wrong. The NRA works on a national level with lobbyists in Washington and keeping us appraised of what is happening in this country wirh regard to current and potential firearms law.

 

Each state has an NRA affiliate organization. In NJ that would be the ANJRPC and if you don't think they are active, you haven't been paying attention. Just check out the latest newsletter where they list their accomplishments.

 

Maybe things don't change fast enough for the instant-gratification generation, but the wheels of government grind slowly and in a predominantly blue state, I'd say we're making progress. So instead of bad-mouthing them every chance you get, try supporting them so at least we present a united front.

 

Rant off.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Agree 100%.  I am in Arlington, VA right now and saw the NRA add.  Most people not in NJ are unaware of NJ gun laws.  This is the first time a lot of people from all over the country are hearing anything about NJ gun laws

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Unfortunately, Wayne La Pierre said Carol was waiting for a handgun permit! To a person watching this in "free America", this sounds like she was waiting for a handgun carry permit!

I am not knocking the NRA for trying, but I wish he would have said "A handgun purchase permit"! 

 

In most states, the only handgun permit is a CCW permit!!! With the addition of the word "purchase" it would have made it more clear and turned peoples heads a bit more!

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Unfortunately, Wayne La Pierre said Carol was waiting for a handgun permit! To a person watching this in "free America", this sounds like she was waiting for a handgun carry permit!

I am not knocking the NRA for trying, but I wish he would have said "A handgun purchase permit"! 

 

In most states, the only handgun permit is a CCW permit!!! With the addition of the word "purchase" it would have made it more clear and turned peoples heads a bit more!

 

That, and the other thing is that WLP blamed the "State of NJ" for the failure of Carol to get her permit, but it was really the Twp. of Berlin that caused the extra delays. Had Berlin followed state regs, she might have had it in time.

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That, and the other thing is that WLP blamed the "State of NJ" for the failure of Carol to get her permit, but it was really the Twp. of Berlin that caused the extra delays. Had Berlin followed state regs, she might have had it in time.

Had the state enforced its own laws instead of allowing for loopholes. Its like the current judicial system that reads something like, "shall be issued in 30 days",  and turns into, 'Hey guise, 30 days... do your best... actually do what ever you want".

 

How often do you think an actual gun crime is plead down in this state by criminals? Then, have audacity to answer a criminal problem with more laws... Face it, the state created the environment for places to bend laws.

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45Doll    5,873

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My wife just showed me this ad that ran tonight on The Five. I thought it was terrific. Succinct and to the point.
Woman is terrorized, woman gets restraining order but realizes that's just paper, applies to own a gun and is neglected to death. The State Of New Jersey Approach is a massive failure that contributed to a woman's death.
That logic is apparent to anyone who is rational and impartial, and not just already-convinced 2A supporters.
Hoplophobes, of course, will not be moved.

I do agree that 'permit to purchase a handgun' would have been an improvement.
And I LOVED the Trenton imagery. How about "Trenton Fakes, The Criminals Take"?

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JC_68Westy    1,024

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Had the state enforced its own laws instead of allowing for loopholes. Its like the current judicial system that reads something like, "shall be issued in 30 days",  and turns into, 'Hey guise, 30 days... do your best... actually do what ever you want".

 

How often do you think an actual gun crime is plead down in this state by criminals? Then, have audacity to answer a criminal problem with more laws... Face it, the state created the environment for places to bend laws.

I believe that the point the ad was making is New Jersey gun laws are the cause, not some arbitrary 30 day number to process.  In most states you need a DL to buy a gun (long or handgun) the same day.  The entire NJ process is broken.

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