djw2033 28 Posted August 22, 2016 would traveling to and from a storage unit ( leased in your name) qualify under "property to property" transportation ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 22, 2016 I would think so as you have exclusive use of the storage unit. Don't think I'd want to store guns in a storage unit though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 22, 2016 Be careful with storage facility leases as well - many will have a no firearms clause. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,148 Posted August 22, 2016 Sort of related topic: I've been wondering about this for awhile... wouldn't you think some enterprising Pennsy gun range(s) near the NJ border would add a wall of rentable gun lockers before Gov. Christie exits stage left?... in anticipation of yet more firearms becoming illegal in NJ (but perhaps still being legal in PA)? That seems like a "no brainer" to me. Wouldn't this option allow a NJ resident to legally store a "NJ illegal" firearm (and still enjoy it) not too far from home?... and avoid a forced sale?... or being a bold (or foolish depending on your POV) "instant felon"? And it's just more income streams for the ranges: money from the locker rentals, money from increased memberships from NJ folks, etc. Makes sense to me, but admittedly, I have less grasp than many of you of the legal quagmire that is NJ gun law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted August 23, 2016 ^Not a bad idea, but i think the issue is PA gun laws; NOT nj gun laws. Can we purchase firearms and keep them in PA if they are non-compliant? PA may insist they be legal in the state in which the owner resides; i'm not sure how their stuff works.If its Kosher, i can see it being a great idea... If AR's are banned i'd probably rent in PA, seeing as driving to PA to shoot is the same distance as me driving to ft dix to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted August 23, 2016 There are a S. load of non NJ compliant firearms and accessories own by NJ resident living a free life in PA. PA don't care. They have been there since the last gun ban in NJ went into effect. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 23, 2016 ^Not a bad idea, but i think the issue is PA gun laws; NOT nj gun laws. Can we purchase firearms and keep them in PA if they are non-compliant? PA may insist they be legal in the state in which the owner resides; i'm not sure how their stuff works. If its Kosher, i can see it being a great idea... If AR's are banned i'd probably rent in PA, seeing as driving to PA to shoot is the same distance as me driving to ft dix to shoot. Federal law requires a long gun purchased in another state be compliant with the laws of both states. If your a NJ resident the long gun you buy in PA be compliant with NJ law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted August 23, 2016 Federal law requires a long gun purchased in another state be compliant with the laws of both states. If your a NJ resident the long gun you buy in PA be compliant with NJ law.They were referring to ones already legally owned. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo2936 297 Posted August 23, 2016 They were referring to ones already legally owned. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal? Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted August 23, 2016 Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal? Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms?? Yes. PA could care less about NJ Draconian laws. Only reason buying non compliant rifle is an issue is because of Federal NICS check and Federal licensing. If the rifle is legal in PA it can remain in PA and no one is going to bother you. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 23, 2016 Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal? Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms?? I know several people who moved their ARs, AKs, and other non-compliant rifles to their summer house in PA. NJ law stops at NJ borders. If you have something that becomes illegal in NJ you can move it to any state where it's legal. On the other hand, say they ban all ARs in NJ. You as a NJ resident won't be able to buy any AR in PA as a NJ resident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted August 23, 2016 Another reason to form a trust with a pa resident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted August 23, 2016 Buy your stripped lowers now and sock 'em away. Build them when you are ready out of state and keep them there. I know of a person who inherited his uncle's M1 carbine last year, a NJ banned item, beautiful Rockola. Gun was in PA and he is a NJ resident. Perfectly legal as long as gun stays out of NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted August 23, 2016 As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted August 23, 2016 As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns? Just form a trust with that person and you can keep your guns at that persons house as far as I know. someone correct me if im wrong please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 23, 2016 As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns? If you put a safe in a friend's house and they did not have access to a key or combination no transfer has taken place. Same as a storage unit. No need for a phony dollar a year lease. No need for a trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted August 23, 2016 There you go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites