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Ok, this is going to be a little long winded

 

I got a package today from aeropostal, something I didn't order, I never shop there. I'm thinking delivered to the wrong address, no problem. Then I look at the shipping label and my name and address are on it, so ok I open the package and there are 3 XS sweatshirts in there. I am 6'-2" and weigh 280lbs, there is no way in hell I am wearing XS, and the invoice has 'sold to' and 'ship to' with my name and address. Ok, second thought, one of my friends or relatives ordered something and had it shipped to me to avoid sales tax, so I call everyone and no one I know ordered it. So I call aeropostal and they tell me my name and address is the only info they have for this order on file, but it was paid for by Amazon's version of paypal so they don't have the payment info only the Amazon confirmation number, so next logical step, call Amazon. So I call Amazon, give them the reference number, and they tell me that the account is under none of my email addresses (I had to give them my email addresses for them to compare), so I said ok, can you at least just check the name on the credit card and tell me if it's mine or not, I don't need to know the name if it's not mine just tell me if it is. They said they can't check the name of the credit card because the account is locked pending investigation of possible fraudulent activity and that I would get a call back within 24hrs. I checked all my credit and debit cards and they look clean, so either they used someone else CC or opened a credit card under my name. Now 2 things, would either aeropostal or Amazon even approve the purchase if the CC info didn't match the ship to info? Second, and probably most troubling, if this was some sort of Freud will those that committed it come looking for their package?

 

I know there are a lot of LEOs on this board that might have seen or heard of similar situations. As always, and help and/or advise is greatly appreciated.

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Paypal has their own credit card now, I wonder if it's the same for the Amazon version.... If so, they may have opened a credit card on there, but I feel as if the Amazon rep would have told you if that was the case, he/she should have been able to see that.

 

I don't think you have to worry about anyone coming to get the package, you would have to be a complete moron to commit fraud and then show up looking for the item purchased. 3 years ago, I had someone get my debit card info and use it to charge $100 worth of postage to my acct. I got it voided and a new card through my bank, and continued with my life. 2 weeks later, I got a package at my parents house from western union. It was 2 fraudulent checks ($5k each) from people I didn't know, too people I didn't know, and a note from WU stating they had been filled out wrong. Since it was filled out wrong, they shipped it back to the billing address on my card. I took that crap straight to the police station. Never had anyone come looking for it.

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I wouldn't expect anyone to come looking for a package and at 6'2 280 I'm sure you can handle the extra small visitor anyway

 

How about a neighbor? Hiding purchases from a spouse and shipping to your house?

 

Are you generally home during the day to receive packages or do they sit on the front porch for someone else to pick thru them?

 

Maybe run your credit report and see if there has been a card opened in your name recently that you are unaware of.

 

Good luck, hope it plays out well

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Credit Card fraud is extremely common these days. Follow up and make sure you're not the one liable and it get's taken off your credit. After that I don't worry about it. Probably once a year my debit cards get hacked and recently I had a credit card hacked, see the academy.com thread I started. It is a serious PITA but the credit companies are at least forgiving and don't hold you liable. 

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I also wouldn't worry about someone showing up at your door. That would be extremely a stupid decision on the offending party/parties. They're not the smartest but any fraud I've ever seen involves changing an address if something gets shipped.

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Heavyopp is right.

 

Run your credit report. Make sure everything in there is familiar. Sounds like someone started an account in your name - that means they have your SSN, your address, a password or two, and probably your Mom's maiden name.

 

Pay attention to your phone bill as well. Recently, these cases have been often times starting with a phone account in your name.

 

If anything seems out of the ordinary or fraudulent, go to your local PD and and start an ID theft investigation.

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Heavyopp is right.

 

Run your credit report. Make sure everything in there is familiar. Sounds like someone started an account in your name - that means they have your SSN, your address, a password or two, and probably your Mom's maiden name.

 

Pay attention to your phone bill as well. Recently, these cases have been often times starting with a phone account in your name.

 

If anything seems out of the ordinary or fraudulent, go to your local PD and and start an ID theft investigation.

 

There's a ton of fraud in the wireless industry now. I have seen it plenty of times and have called the cops time and again. It's amazing how these people get so much info about a person, their account, a fake DL. I've even had a guy know literally EVERYTHING about a customers account, down to the plan, how much they used etc. Seemed 100% legit customer, was complete fraud.

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So the good news is, So far no new accounts under my name according to 2 credit bureaus, and all the credit cards I know of have no charges. The Amazon rep did say that the account was locked due to perceived fraudulent activity, so i'm hoping that was because the CC and shit to name and address didn't match. For now I will just have to wait for Amazon to call me back and take it from there.

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Could you have logged into your Amazon account on a shared computer and not logged out? Did you shop on a work computer that IT can access? Could someone have guessed your password?

 

I would change all of my email passwords immediately.

 

Then I would then check Amazon and make sure only my email addresses are assigned to my account, then I would change my Amazon password.

 

Check your Amazon order history, see what orders you made when you know you were signed on.

 

Also, check your account settings and see what CCs are assigned to your name. I would probably clear all the CCs out of my Amazon Acct as well.

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Could you have logged into your Amazon account on a shared computer and not logged out? Did you shop on a work computer that IT can access? Could someone have guessed your password?

 

I would change all of my email passwords immediately.

 

Then I would then check Amazon and make sure only my email addresses are assigned to my account, then I would change my Amazon password.

 

Check your Amazon order history, see what orders you made when you know you were signed on.

 

Also, check your account settings and see what CCs are assigned to your name. I would probably clear all the CCs out of my Amazon Acct as well.

Checked everything and changed password. Thanks HE

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I checked and Aeropostal does not take any "Amazon payment" on their website. So someone must have purchased these items on Amazon website itself (but sold & shipped by Aeropostal).  Amazon is pretty good with fraud detection and the bad guys usually dont just settle with 3 XS sweat shirts.  Most of them are typically into giftcards etc because they can be circulated around and sold off quickly. 

 

Weird incident for sure. 

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Sounds like just a fuck-up the likes of which we'll be seeing more and more of despite machines taking over a lot of this stuff. One day I received what I thought were 600 rds of remanufactured .38 sp but the box weighed like 50 lbs and was way too big. Had the right return address and mine too so I opened it. It was two dozen aluminum bars. They were real nice but too large for my GP100.

 

It took about 6 weeks to resolve the issue. UPS sent an investigator to my house. I sent them pictures. Spoke to at least 4-5 UPS workers on the phone. The seller, who had my money, was so disgusted he was going to refund me while the issue was still unresolved. They somehow tracked who was supposed to get the Al but nobody but nobody could understand that I had ordered one thing from vendor A and got another from vendor B. It was too complex a concept. 

 

As long as you weren't charged fuck them all. Don't waste your time. Hold onto the shirts for a few months in case someone asks about them then give them away. 

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Paypal has their own credit card now, I wonder if it's the same for the Amazon version.... If so, they may have opened a credit card on there, but I feel as if the Amazon rep would have told you if that was the case, he/she should have been able to see that.

 

I don't think you have to worry about anyone coming to get the package, you would have to be a complete moron to commit fraud and then show up looking for the item purchased. 3 years ago, I had someone get my debit card info and use it to charge $100 worth of postage to my acct. I got it voided and a new card through my bank, and continued with my life. 2 weeks later, I got a package at my parents house from western union. It was 2 fraudulent checks ($5k each) from people I didn't know, too people I didn't know, and a note from WU stating they had been filled out wrong. Since it was filled out wrong, they shipped it back to the billing address on my card. I took that crap straight to the police station. Never had anyone come looking for it.

Amazon uses chase affinity card for their credit card.

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I also wouldn't worry about someone showing up at your door. That would be extremely a stupid decision on the offending party/parties. They're not the smartest but any fraud I've ever seen involves changing an address if something gets shipped.

For a few sweatshirts it sounds like a test. Speaking from experience they may not come for it themselves but a UPS driver may come back with a call tag for a pickup and the package gets rerouted/delivered to them.

This happened to me a while back......

Someone used my cc and sent some items to my house under my name. I called the vendor and they said the order was processed and shipped using my credit card but diff email and contact number. The vendor said they would send me an email to print the UPS labels. Next few days UPS comes with a call tag to pick up the package. I called the vendor and they said they don't do that. That's when I realized the scammer sent the call tag to retrieve the items. Im a wise guy but that was definitely ingenious. If it was someone else they prob would have just gave it to the UPS driver non the wiser and the scammer would of got his products. Would have been a nice score for them. It was two DSLR flashes. Est value at $850.00. Not!!! I printed the labels from the vendor's emails and returned the equipment and my cc was credited without issue. So make sure u don't fall for that one. My only gripe was how were they able to process the order via a website w/o providing the security code on the cc. Hmmmm.

 

 

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After waiting all day for amazon to call me back i got restless and called them again. After aguing with them for 30min they finally told me that the order was not associated with any accounts with my name on it and the payment method does not have my name on it either. They told me that they sent my name to aeropostal for the order because of a "technical glitch". Ok, I understand software bugs, they happen often, but it was like pulling teeth getting that info out of them. I told them that I want an email from them stating that the order wasn't mune and wasn't paid by me, along with a return shipping label. Will I ever get that email? I'm not holding my breath, but atleast I checked all my cards and my credit report, and all seams well for now. As always I greatly appreciate all the good advise that you all provided, Thanks.

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It's funny (sad) how these companies will almost "defend" the identity of the person who broke the law and illegally use your acct. I had a co-worker receive a call from a hospital in DC saying that he (the coworker taking the call) was currently in the hospital there for some kind of medical condition. He explained that wasn't possible, and they realized this guy was actually illegally passing himself off as my buddy to use his insurance. He started asking the doc about the person doing it, and she wouldn't tell him ANYTHING about the person, male/female, young/old, what the medical issue was, ect. I can understand some of that stuff falls under HIPPA I guess, but goddamn. Funniest (saddest) part is they treated the person before calling the police, and as soon as the medical staff left the room to make the call, the person just got up and left. So they didn't even take the asshole into custody. Ridiculous.

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It's funny (sad) how these companies will almost "defend" the identity of the person who broke the law and illegally use your acct. I had a co-worker receive a call from a hospital in DC saying that he (the coworker taking the call) was currently in the hospital there for some kind of medical condition. He explained that wasn't possible, and they realized this guy was actually illegally passing himself off as my buddy to use his insurance. He started asking the doc about the person doing it, and she wouldn't tell him ANYTHING about the person, male/female, young/old, what the medical issue was, ect. I can understand some of that stuff falls under HIPPA I guess, but goddamn. Funniest (saddest) part is they treated the person before calling the police, and as soon as the medical staff left the room to make the call, the person just got up and left. So they didn't even take the asshole into custody. Ridiculous.

The intersection of bureaucracy gone mad (HIPPA) and misguided respect for illegals. Nice. He gets treated and leaves, your identity is compromised. Then next time you're in the ER for a sprained ankle they charge you $700 for a special towel that's not covered by insurance. 

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