david8613 69 Posted September 20, 2016 Is this upper NJ legal? Of course with the pig nose welded, im just wondering if that brake is ok? http://www.cobratacsystems.com/products/16-nitride-1-7-m-4-ul-rec-ultra-lite-16-5-carbon-series-hog-nose-brake#oid=1008_2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted September 20, 2016 If that hognose break is permanently attached to the 7.5 inch barrel and making it a legal rifle length of 16.5 inches and truly a break I would sure possibly but I am not a lawyer and ......In the advertment it says for pistols only. I personally would not mess with that thing.....and I'm crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted September 20, 2016 Barrel is 16 inches, so okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted September 20, 2016 whats the point in only having 7.5 worth of barrel and the rest being a linear comp? wouldn't that hurt accuracy? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobratac 3 Posted September 20, 2016 Hi guys first time post on here... there was a typo on that listing. the barrel is 16" long and the muzzle device is a simple forward directing can brake. it does not suppress any sound or flash... im sure it should be fine in NJ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted September 20, 2016 Hi guys first time post on here... there was a typo on that listing. the barrel is 16" long and the muzzle device is a simple forward directing can brake. it does not suppress any sound or flash... im sure it should be fine in NJ If the muzzle device is permanently attached to the barrel, as per NJ specs, I would say it is a NJ legal upper. The muzzle device is listed as a "Hognose brake". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted September 20, 2016 I would ask the supplier two questions: 1) since they are built to order, will they pin / weld the MB to the barrel to make it NJ compliant? If not - you would nee to get that done here in NJ before building the rifle. you will also need to consider the Parts to build clause in the statute - if you have a lower in your possession, it may be best to ship it to a dealer to make it compliant before you pick it up. 2) I would be curious to know why they say it not to be attached to a rifle lower, only a pistol? If the barrel is 16" as listed, I don't see any reason it couldn't be mounted on a rifle?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 20, 2016 I think you just did, since post #5 is the selling company Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe 95 Posted September 20, 2016 Doesn't look like it'll pass the "pinky test." LMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted September 20, 2016 I think you just did, since post #5 is the selling company Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobratac 3 Posted September 20, 2016 Hi guys just want to be clear again... we do not live in NJ so you would have to ask a local FFL or 2A Attorney about local laws. I will try to be clear on the specs. the barrel in this upper is a 16" barrel : as far as the ATF is concerned that is the legal minimum acceptable barrel length regardless of a muzzle device.. Im not sure as to why the muzzle device needs to be welded on for a 16" barrel in NJ... the pistol verbiage was a typo as the specs template included that when we first posted the item for sale, we failed at proofreading the listing... all specs listed now on the website have been corrected and confirmed. We have not sent the brake to be "NJ approved" to the ATF but i can tell you it is not a brake at all, it is a solid can with conical flash projection. it projects the concussion blast down range at a narrower angle (roughly 65 degrees) vs 180 degrees with no muzzle device.. this rifle upper is perfectly functional without the muzzle device, ugly and incomplete looking, but functional. if your unsure about NJ state law, I would speak to counsel or an FFL about this upper and the specs. Print out the specs and bring them to an official and see if they break any laws... thanks for the interest, we are here for any other questions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted September 20, 2016 Hi guys just want to be clear again... we do not live in NJ so you would have to ask a local FFL or 2A Attorney about local laws. I will try to be clear on the specs. the barrel in this upper is a 16" barrel : as far as the ATF is concerned that is the legal minimum acceptable barrel length regardless of a muzzle device.. Im not sure as to why the muzzle device needs to be welded on for a 16" barrel in NJ... the pistol verbiage was a typo as the specs template included that when we first posted the item for sale, we failed at proofreading the listing... all specs listed now on the website have been corrected and confirmed. We have not sent the brake to be "NJ approved" to the ATF but i can tell you it is not a brake at all, it is a solid can with conical flash projection. it projects the concussion blast down range at a narrower angle (roughly 65 degrees) vs 180 degrees with no muzzle device.. this rifle upper is perfectly functional without the muzzle device, ugly and incomplete looking, but functional. if your unsure about NJ state law, I would speak to counsel or an FFL about this upper and the specs. Print out the specs and bring them to an official and see if they break any laws... thanks for the interest, we are here for any other questions To answer your one question about 16 inch barrels. We can't have threads that could accept a flash hider so everything needs to be permanent attached no matter what. This only applies to semi autos with detachable mags and pistol grips this signature exceeds the 15 character capacity count 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobratac 3 Posted September 20, 2016 To answer your one question about 16 inch barrels. We can't have threads that could accept a flash hider so everything needs to be permanent attached no matter what. This only applies to semi autos with detachable mags and pistol grips this signature exceeds the 15 character capacity count ok well then, i understand now... we dont pin and weld here so you would need to get that done locally. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites