Bt Doctur 188 Posted October 9, 2016 Really have to hand it to some companies. They will sell you one over the counter but will not ship to nj/ Go figure.Concerning these so called silenced pellet rifles, couldnt you just whack off the silenced end ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted October 9, 2016 There are a lot of really questionable nj laws that I'd love to see challenge but I would 100% not bring one of those integrally suppressed rifles here this signature exceeds the 15 character capacity count Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted October 10, 2016 Even the NJSP has ruled that the Gamo Whisper and "substantially identical" models as illegal. http://www.guns.com/2013/09/12/new-jersey-adds-certain-air-rifles-assault-weapons-list/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted October 11, 2016 F them. Wtf. Nazi new jermany. What a joke. These lawmakers are a disgrace. This is unrealistic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted October 11, 2016 Never heard of anyone busted for that. All air guns in low calibers are quiet. They could say the same thing about rifles in general, which make far less noise than revolvers or pistols at least in .22lr. Or for that matter powderless .22s, which can still kill you (a lot more effectively than a .22 pellet) but make zero noise in a rifle and less than a fully charged round in a handgun. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted October 12, 2016 Never heard of anyone busted for that. All air guns in low calibers are quiet. Yeah but do you want to be the first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted October 12, 2016 Yeah but do you want to be the first? I've suggested 20 people dressed in Sunday best walking up to a NJSP barracks and asking to be arrested for possessing a single .22 hollow point. Alert the press. Would I do it? Civil disobedience has worked in the past. Would I actually do it? I'm wracking my brain to think of a situation where some ball buster would be in a position to snag me on my air rifle (which I purchased in NJ from a reputable dealer BTW). Are wardens even out during squirrel season? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted October 13, 2016 I've suggested 20 people dressed in Sunday best walking up to a NJSP barracks and asking to be arrested for possessing a single .22 hollow point. Alert the press. Would I do it? Civil disobedience has worked in the past. Would I actually do it? I'm wracking my brain to think of a situation where some ball buster would be in a position to snag me on my air rifle (which I purchased in NJ from a reputable dealer BTW). Are wardens even out during squirrel season? Yes they are. Usually dressed like another hunter, and not like a warden. Until they bust you for some simple infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted October 13, 2016 Yes they are. Usually dressed like another hunter, and not like a warden. Until they bust you for some simple infraction. Actually you're right. First time ever hunting in NJ, 1991, they stopped my car on the way out of Wittingham to see if guns were properly cased. I was using the cardboard box I picked it up in the month before at Simon Peter. I knew nothing about NJ law. From what I know now I'd refuse the search. Second the gun was unloaded and in the trunk. I think that's sufficient. What a shame we have to baby talk these subjects, like naughty children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted October 13, 2016 Actually you're right. First time ever hunting in NJ, 1991, they stopped my car on the way out of Wittingham to see if guns were properly cased. I was using the cardboard box I picked it up in the month before at Simon Peter. I knew nothing about NJ law. From what I know now I'd refuse the search. Second the gun was unloaded and in the trunk. I think that's sufficient. What a shame we have to baby talk these subjects, like naughty children. I know state law says unloaded, and doesn't specifically say cased, if you have a FPID card. But in the game code if you're engaged in the act of hunting, or participating in a hunt, the gun must be cased and unloaded. They will actually give you a ticket, for leaning it against your vehicle uncased. Hunting isn't a right like gun ownership, when you sign your hunting license you're officially stating in ink, that you read all the rules. And are willing to follow them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted October 13, 2016 I know state law says unloaded, and doesn't specifically say cased, if you have a FPID card. But in the game code if you're engaged in the act of hunting, or participating in a hunt, the gun must be cased and unloaded. They will actually give you a ticket, for leaning it against your vehicle uncased. Hunting isn't a right like gun ownership, when you sign your hunting license you're officially stating in ink, that you read all the rules. And are willing to follow them all. With all due respect -- I still consider myself inexperienced -- I don't know of any agency that can legally force you to pull your car over to search you for no reason. I understand the code thing though. Interesting. Kind of like joining the army? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted October 13, 2016 With all due respect -- I still consider myself inexperienced -- I don't know of any agency that can legally force you to pull your car over to search you for no reason. I understand the code thing though. Interesting. Kind of like joining the army?That they can't do, unless they suspect you of a crime, and they have some evidence or probable cause. Conservation officer's carry the full weight of law enforcement, as well as the ability to enforce the game codes. Basically state troopers, that can write you a civil hunting related violation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted October 13, 2016 That they can't do, unless they suspect you of a crime, and they have some evidence or probable cause. Conservation officer's carry the full weight of law enforcement, as well as the ability to enforce the game codes. Basically state troopers, that can write you a civil hunting related violation.If your on state property I believe they can in fact serch you and your vehicle without probable cause. Just like they can search your tackle box without consent. I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted October 14, 2016 If your on state property I believe they can in fact serch you and your vehicle without probable cause. Just like they can search your tackle box without consent. I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure.I wouldn't doubt that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites