Ricky_Bobby 130 Posted November 18, 2016 have to say even i'm losing hope of this ever happening. reasons: 1) i really thought nj had a better than fair shot of voting trump. didn't happen. 2) mayor of passaic (democrat of course) going to prison for bribery. ok, you say, shit happens. then you read that this is the 2nd consecutive dem mayor of passaic to go to prison, and the THIRD OUT OF THE LAST FOUR mayors of passaic (all dem) to go to prison. these ppl don't care about anything. it's democrat all the way, everything else be damned Agree - when I saw all the mindless NJ votes for Hillary (and she had a fairly big margin), I lost all hope for this state - I had some hope if it was closer in margin, but Hillary won NJ by like 500,000 votes - and its not like she was even running with Cory Booker. Christie hasn't done anything but basically stall the Dems for 6-7 years, but now his back is getting scratched with the gas tax. Can't wait to go look at property in SC in February, if all goes well I'll have a non-neutered AR before the end of the year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted November 18, 2016 You misunderstand. The populace can vote in people who will destroy the Republic, vote in judges (or vote in people who will pick judges) who will up hold unconstitutional laws, and effectively ignore the Constitution. So once that happens, what do you do? Move? Comply? Or FIGHT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted November 18, 2016 As far as NJ changing from the extreme far left, unless there's a major demogaphic change (which I don't see happening except futher liberal/left) the liberals in trenton are here to stay. Thats just a fact of life. Get used to it or move. NJ is not going to have a blue majority in this generation. The only silver lining is after the next Supreme Court Judge is appointed some NJ 2A cases may be heard or Judgements may be made at a National Level on infringement that will apply to NJ. Now is the best chance we've had in a long time. In a few months the stars will be in alingnment in DC atleast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted November 19, 2016 No. The populace has no say in changing or amending the Constitution and can take no vote to manipulate it. Constitutional changes require strict congressional approval and the support of the vast majority of states. I'll let you research the requirements but a vote by the stupid citizens of CA doesn't cut it. Not true. An Article 5 Convention of the States leaves Congress totally out f the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted November 19, 2016 Not true. An Article 5 Convention of the States leaves Congress totally out f the process. yes yes i know. wasn't really the point i was making regarding people for voting unconstitutional laws in CA. here, let me fix my wording: Constitutional changes require strict congressional approval and / or the support of the vast majority of states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites