Murphy's website

[Rob0115 1,105]

Wow, this guy really doesn't like dealing in facts, but name a dem who does? Bi-partisan common sense laws? Required registration somehow prevents gun violence? What's every criminal suddenly going to feel beholden to disclose and register their firearms? NJ is going to be screwed, not just 2a rights, when this socialist gets in.

 

https://www.murphy4nj.com/issues/getting-tough-on-gun-violence/

[carl_g 568]

Is this the guy who is running on the "D" ticket next time around?

If so and he wins, you guys are screwed. It says he would pass every one of those bills that Christie vetoed.

[Bt Doctur 188]

Expect nothing less from a Democrat. can somebody mention to him about Chicago

[T Bill 649]

This guy needs to be defeated in his quest for Governor.  We will be lucky to keep anything after Jan 2018.

[mipafox 438]

Wow, this guy really doesn't like dealing in facts, but name a dem who does? Bi-partisan common sense laws? Required registration somehow prevents gun violence? What's every criminal suddenly going to feel beholden to disclose and register their firearms? NJ is going to be screwed, not just 2a rights, when this socialist gets in.

 

https://www.murphy4nj.com/issues/getting-tough-on-gun-violence/

The courts have ruled that criminals cannot be prosecuted for failure to register firearms. It is a 5th Amendment violation to require a criminal to register firearms. Only law abiding citizens can be required to register.

 

It's a little more complicated than that and I don't know all the details but those are the basics.

[Rob0115 1,105]

The courts have ruled that criminals cannot be prosecuted for failure to register firearms. It is a 5th Amendment violation to require a criminal to register firearms. Only law abiding citizens can be required to register.

It's a little more complicated than that and I don't know all the details but those are the basics.

Yeah, I was being facetious, doesn't always work in internet postings, I don't expect any criminal to violate their 5th amendment protections.

[DirtyDigz 1,811]

How do we defeat Murphy in the upcoming election?

[siderman 1,137]

We all know gun control  is a prerequisite for any demorat candidate no surprises here it just hurts to see it so prominantly displayed on their campaign platform. We as a country dodged a bullet on the 2A with Trump but here in NJ we will go in the opposite direction. They gonna nuke us. Start prepping, We've been warned. And now time again for my favorite link, the rough draft of the NJ SAFE Act. A must read for any Forum newbs.   http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf  Bonus points if you read it to the end without getting sick or screaming.

[kirk2022 43]

How do we defeat Murphy in the upcoming election?

 

1st. People must get out to vote.

2nd. If voting republicans can sway 1 Dem. to open their eyes and flip them. We might have the numbers.

 

Sad part is, The rotation for State elections has no connection to any so called important elections. (National) So people just do not turn out. Which is A death blow for A republican candidate.  The past National election had record turnout in the entire State of NJ.

That wont happen with next years cycle, Unfortunately!

 

Best idea is use examples already being seen since Nov.  Stock Market, Holiday sales, and Trumps vision. And put them to folks to think about,  Get out get involved, Its the only option in this State, As A large part of the electorate in NJ is beholden to the Dems, For reasons we all know.

[Rob0115 1,105]

Christie is so toxic right now that any republican is needs to summit additional hurdles in this deeply blue state.  Forget the 2A stance being attractive to liberals, Murphy is promising to do all the liberal things, raise taxes, raise minimum wage, expand welfare, restore COLAs for PW.  He's got a tax payer funded bribe for every group in his bag of tricks.  

[Rob0115 1,105]

We all know gun control  is a prerequisite for any demorat candidate no surprises here it just hurts to see it so prominantly displayed on their campaign platform. We as a country dodged a bullet on the 2A with Trump but here in NJ we will go in the opposite direction. They gonna nuke us. Start prepping, We've been warned. And now time again for my favorite link, the rough draft of the NJ SAFE Act. A must read for any Forum newbs.   http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf  Bonus points if you read it to the end without getting sick or screaming.

ok, that was longer than I thought.  

[siderman 1,137]

ok, that was longer than I thought.

 

Thats because they have a never ending agenda.

[Cereza 106]

The way to defeat Murphy is to stop treating political party affiliation like a deathsport, and start reaching across the aisle to work with people on the other team.

 

"Strength in numbers" alone is not going to get the job done here in NJ. The voter rolls as of 11/30/2016 have been posted and there are 2,076,528 registered Democrats and just 1,213,075 registered Republicans. Working on the assumption that gun owners are mostly Republican, 2A rights are in BIG trouble.

 

There are over 2.5 million unaffiliated voters up for grabs, but if the last election is any indication, they lean blue.

 

Education is what's key (see: Maj Toure) and reasonable expectations. Demanding that people vote against their own self-interests to oust representatives just for the sake of 2A is a losing strategy, but convincing people that they should not allow their Constitutional rights to be infringed and to light up phone lines and flood email servers when they're representatives' attack those rights can help the cause.  

[mipafox 438]

Christie is so toxic right now that any republican is needs to summit additional hurdles in this deeply blue state. Forget the 2A stance being attractive to liberals, Murphy is promising to do all the liberal things, raise taxes, raise minimum wage, expand welfare, restore COLAs for PW. He's got a tax payer funded bribe for every group in his bag of tricks.

What did Christie do wrong?

[Newtonian 453]

I'll let youze in on a little secret. If it's not this asshole it's someone else. Note the absence of these "common-sense" initiatives:

 

1) prosecution of ALL firearm violations separately from any other associated crime

2) consecutive sentences for firearm violations + other crimes

3) mandatory 5-10 year consecutive sentences for using guns in the commission of crimes against people, property

 

In short, prosecuting dangerous criminals with the same fervor with which they go after us.

[Zeke 5,504]

Christie is so toxic right now that any republican is needs to summit additional hurdles in this deeply blue state. Forget the 2A stance being attractive to liberals, Murphy is promising to do all the liberal things, raise taxes, raise minimum wage, expand welfare, restore COLAs for PW. He's got a tax payer funded bribe for every group in his bag of tricks.

Don't forget down ticket in your conversations with friends.

The gas tax should be brought up constantly.

 

If we can't have a governor due to sour taste. Let's keep him in check.

 

Work on people you know that don't vote.

[Rob0115 1,105]

What did Christie do wrong?

Well it depends on who you speak with. His approval rating is about 15%. In NJ I see that as a positive but he is toxic and probably why Trump dumped him as well.

[Zeke 5,504]

What did Christie do wrong?

I will stand by him on 2a.

lately he's the typical corrupt jersey politician. Some say he is jus as sick of us , as we are him

[M1152 713]

What did Christie do wrong?

Pick one:

• Bridgegate haunts him
• Superstorm Sandy restoration delay times & alleged misappropriation of funds
• Being MIA while out campaigning for POTUS
• Public Employee Unions despise him

Then you have the A-holes over on NJ.com doing at least one hit piece a day on him, it’s no wonder why his poll numbers are in the shitter

[mipafox 438]

Pick one:

• Bridgegate haunts him
• Superstorm Sandy restoration delay times & alleged misappropriation of funds
• Being MIA while out campaigning for POTUS
• Public Employee Unions despise him

Then you have the A-holes over on NJ.com doing at least one hit piece a day on him, it’s no wonder why his poll numbers are in the shitter

Interesting. I'd still keep him if it was an option. None of that bothers me too much except item 2. But I'm sure many of you know Jersey has a long tradition of making large sums of money disappear. Would have hoped he would have stayed on top of it, but bailing against the tide is tough and I don't know the whole story.

[M1152 713]

Interesting. I'd still keep him if it was an option. None of that bothers me too much except item 2. But I'm sure many of you know Jersey has a long tradition of making large sums of money disappear. Would have hoped he would have stayed on top of it, but bailing against the tide is tough and I don't know the whole story.

If you asked what CC did well I would have said he reeled in some of the waste in Trenton, capped property taxes and saved our azz a few times on 2A issues. Could he have done more,  maybe but hard to accomplish with Dem majorities in both houses.  

 

As far as Murphy what is telling to me is one of the bullet points posted on his website, it says Tax gun sales to prevent violence. This is the NJ Dems whole strategy to everything, spend more money.. The state is completely hosed and Murphy is going to prevent violent acts with a tax on firearms, really?  Given Trenton’s past history that should be about as successful as fuel tax revenues that are earmarked for roads and highways actually going to roads and highways. I just find it odd is that Murphy shows up and the others Dems that were thinking of running are now out,  I would love to know the backstory on that one...

[Cereza 106]

I just find it odd is that Murphy shows up and the others Dems that were thinking of running are now out,  I would love to know the backstory on that one...

 

 

Let's see…

 

DiVincenzo engaged in nepotism and Menendez (who still has party sway after an indictment) refused to back him for Governor. 

 

There are many theories on Fulop: http://observer.com/2016/10/fulop-out-the-back-drama-to-the-back-drama-in-the-2017-nj-governors-race/  I like the theory of the dangling Senate seat. Who wants to go broke to inherit all the crap of the Governor's office when the road to a federal senate seat could be paved in Gold(man) brick for the cost of exiting the Governor's race and giving an endorsement? There's also rumored Bridgegate dirt on Fulop, which would likely be wallpapered on our tv screens if he took on Murphy. 

 

Lesniak doesn't have the fund$ to go against Murphy and he knows it. He'll stick to the sure bet of keeping his seat—he's been in the Senate since 1983. 

 

Sweeney did the political equivalent of swallowing a barrel and pulling the trigger by asking for the unions to be investigated for extortion.   

 

Wisniewski is technically still considering a run, to which I say good luck after he proposed that stupid coffee ban for drivers (2016: A1908) and voted to keep traffic cam ticketing. 

 

Those are the democratic contenders I know of, speak up if I missed someone.

[kirk2022 43]

Let's see…

 

DiVincenzo engaged in nepotism and Menendez (who still has party sway after an indictment) refused to back him for Governor. 

 

There are many theories on Fulop: http://observer.com/2016/10/fulop-out-the-back-drama-to-the-back-drama-in-the-2017-nj-governors-race/  I like the theory of the dangling Senate seat. Who wants to go broke to inherit all the crap of the Governor's office when the road to a federal senate seat could be paved in Gold(man) brick for the cost of exiting the Governor's race and giving an endorsement? There's also rumored Bridgegate dirt on Fulop, which would likely be wallpapered on our tv screens if he took on Murphy. 

 

Lesniak doesn't have the fund$ to go against Murphy and he knows it. He'll stick to the sure bet of keeping his seat—he's been in the Senate since 1983. 

 

Sweeney did the political equivalent of swallowing a barrel and pulling the trigger by asking for the unions to be investigated for extortion.   

 

Wisniewski is technically still considering a run, to which I say good luck after he proposed that stupid coffee ban for drivers (2016: A1908) and voted to keep traffic cam ticketing. 

 

Those are the democratic contenders I know of, speak up if I missed someone.

 

Pretty much sums it up.   Truth is even the early Dem prospect know they cant run against the money he brings with him.

[Zeke 5,504]

Pretty much sums it up. Truth is even the early Dem prospect know they cant run against the money he brings with him.

This!^^^

 

And Sweeney lost the teachers!

[Golf battery 1,223]

There ya go. I started telling you all. 6 months or more ago to watch out for this dousch. Thanks rob for bringing this up. Hes sweeneys mini me. Hes sweeneys puppet. Sweeney bowed down to run to give it to murphy. It makes me sick because murphy is my paternal sides name. Ughhh. I will fight with anyone that wants to. To not let him get into office. Sweeney wont run because he has it too easy as state senate president. And. If he he leaves his position ibetcha hell be caught in a bunch of lies and wrong doings.

[M1152 713]

Let's see…

 

DiVincenzo engaged in nepotism and Menendez (who still has party sway after an indictment) refused to back him for Governor. 

Sweeney did the political equivalent of swallowing a barrel and pulling the trigger by asking for the unions to be investigated for extortion.   

Good reply, I don’t know anything about DiVincenzo nor did I know he was thinking about a run. As far as nepotism charge (this doesn’t make it right) but they all do it and at least his son wasn’t a Stick Up Artist.   

 

I did hear of the other usual suspects and assumed it was going to come down to Fulop & Sweeny but according to one of the links in your reply I could only assume someone has some dirt on Fulop. Sweeny on the other hand has bumped heads with the Public Employees before so I don’t think the article you cited makes any difference, that’s just nj.com throwing one of their own under the bus for the greater good. If fact going forward getting some separation between himself and the Public Unions could have been a good strategy for him.   I’m thinking  the powers to be probably just wanted a new face with no baggage so Murphy is their new Golden Boy, or in this case Goldman boy so it’s going to be Corzine 2.0.  

 

I still think Sweeny wanted a shot at the title but was told to stand down. Sweeny may be third in command down in Trenton after CC and the Lieutenant Governor but he still answers to Norcross. Murphy probably bought Norcross a case of Scotch and Norcross told Sweeny to pull the plug.

[M1152 713]

FWIW looks like Lesniak is back in.  I guess the best possible outcome here is they destroy each other in the primary....

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

As bad as this state is now, it's really going to suck big-time in a year or so!

[Zeke 5,504]

FWIW looks like Lesniak is back in. I guess the best possible outcome here is they destroy each other in the primary....

This is the first time I've seen Rullio's name other then here.

If it is a dem, we want our dem.

 

You can change affiliation as many times you like......

Jus sayen

[siderman 1,137]

Its not like the dems will cancel each other out and disappear, one will be on the ballot in Nov and any dem will tow the party line.