jackandjill 683 Posted March 22, 2017 Assuming increased taxation results in larger Govt, is there a state that taxes heavily but is very pro 2A on the contrary ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted March 22, 2017 there are none... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted March 22, 2017 VT, NH, OH, PA, and Nebraska Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted March 22, 2017 i don't think vermont or new hampshire belong on that list. new hampshire doesn't even have an income tax Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 22, 2017 To the OP WHY? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted March 22, 2017 To the OP WHY? I am debating if 2A situation in states like NJ can ever be improved (without SCOTUS suddenly waking up), without reigning in taxes and addressing amount of money that goes around in social programs. Social programs that fund certain mindset that result in more crime, more politicians that gets attracted to power and control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted March 22, 2017 i don't think vermont or new hampshire belong on that list. new hampshire doesn't even have an income tax High Property Tax Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted March 22, 2017 Here's my prediction. There will higher taxes and more ineffective gun control in NJ next year. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted March 22, 2017 Iowa taxes aren't so great relatively. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted March 22, 2017 i don't think vermont or new hampshire belong on that list. new hampshire doesn't even have an income tax NH has outrageous property taxes but it's listed as a low tax state. Go to: https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494/#red-vs-blue See the map. You can put your cursor above the states. From what I can see there's no real pattern. Maine is constitutional carry but high tax. Most states are shall-issue; some are low-tax, some high-tax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robot_hell 72 Posted March 22, 2017 Washington state, although nowhere near as heavily taxed as NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted March 23, 2017 NH has outrageous property taxes but it's listed as a low tax state. Go to: https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494/#red-vs-blue See the map. You can put your cursor above the states. From what I can see there's no real pattern. Maine is constitutional carry but high tax. Most states are shall-issue; some are low-tax, some high-tax. That is correct VT and NH are both listed as low tax States, but let's face it most gun collectors I would guess are homeowners and property tax is one of the hardest hitting state taxes in places like VT, NH, and NJ. PA, OH, and NE are all listed in the top 10 worst state for taxes by multiple lists. Regardless gun laws and taxes seem to have no correlation. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted March 23, 2017 Vermont taxes aren't that low. Cost of living up there is still fairly high too because it's harder to ship items around via truck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted March 23, 2017 That is correct VT and NH are both listed as low tax States, but let's face it most gun collectors I would guess are homeowners and property tax is one of the hardest hitting state taxes in places like VT, NH, and NJ. PA, OH, and NE are all listed in the top 10 worst state for taxes by multiple lists. Regardless gun laws and taxes seem to have no correlation. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Which is another way to say: ALL POLITICANS SUCK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakridgefirearms 224 Posted March 23, 2017 i don't think vermont or new hampshire belong on that list. new hampshire doesn't even have an income tax NH doesn't have sales tax either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted March 23, 2017 Another way to look at this, particularly if you're rounding the bend like me, is which states impose the lowest tax burden on retirees? AFAIK none in the northeast even though NJ is the only one that does not issue carry permits. It's difficult to correlate any of this with gun laws. 44 states are shall-issue (if you include Connecticut), 3 are limited issue. Yet most are high-tax. I keep telling you guys that, NJ notwithstanding, guns have been the only bright spot during the last 30 years w/ respect to rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The brew guy 22 Posted March 23, 2017 I am debating if 2A situation in states like NJ can ever be improved (without SCOTUS suddenly waking up), without reigning in taxes and addressing amount of money that goes around in social programs. Social programs that fund certain mindset that result in more crime, more politicians that gets attracted to power and control. Why not cut out the middleman and look up which states have the highest reliance on these social programs? Most programs include federal funding so if it's the programs that are the problem, state taxes aren't the best indicator. It took me all of 1 minute to find a recent article listing DC, Mississippi, New Mexico, West Virginia, Oregon, Tennessee and Louisiana as having the highest percentage of residents on food stamps. All in excess of 18%. Personally, I think you're wasting your time. The problem is with the "Haves," not the "Have-nots." Go take a look at a list of states by affluence. Maryland, New Jersey, California, Connecticut, DC and Massachusetts are the top of the list, all very blue and among the worst when it comes to 2A. The cities are only part of the problem, we just don't have the trailer parks to balance it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites