Civilian Marksmanship Program to Receive 86,000 M1 Garand Rifles from the Philippines

[10X 3,296]

On the other hand one can purchase a firearm with the intention of gifting it to another person as long as no money is involved.

 

 

I propose a simple improvement on StoneColdChavez's request that someone on the road trip to CMP purchase one on his behalf.    

 

I request that someone on the road trip purchase one, and give it to me!    This will avoid any potential legal entanglements, should the state or the feds decide to jam you up with a straw purchase case.

 

My plan could easily save the purchaser 10's of thousands of dollars in legal fees.   No need to thank me, I'm just a generous person.

 

Who's in?    

[T Bill 649]

Calm down all, they haven't even shipped yet.  They will all go to Aniston, AL to be inventoried, sorted, checked by a smith, even before being offered for sale.  By the time the first batch goes up for sale you will have forgotten about it.

[SJG 253]

Do they ever get M1 carbines for shipment to FFL in FL?

[tony357 386]

I got one in 1990  right before the 1st iraqi war, i belonged to the 44th infantry of DCM fort dix.  Had to shoot and qualify for one it was 165.00  delivered to my front door. I used my 308 Mauser to qualify.   Springfield armory packaged one hell of a deal back then.  has the prod numbers stamped in it from re manufacturing. Then we re qualified 500 ground troops safe marksmanship M-16 rifle  under the command of SGT major Art Smith. then the government brought in the Koasavoin refugees to fort dix and no civilians were allowed on the base and that ended our DCM program.i believe we were there from 88-92 i believe we were cut off jan 92 matches were cancelled and april or so confirmation.

 

 There was also a lottery that was done for m-1 Garands and sniper rifles complete with scope they gave ser# ranges and you had to put an amount in the envelope and the highest bid won. i did not partake at the time money was tight.

[SJG 253]

So what happened to the M-1 carbines that were on the base after the DCM program ended  and the lottery was over? Were the winners of the M-1 carbines, who paid for them, allowed to keep them after they were separated from service?

[Newtonian 453]

CMP is an interesting organization. Kind of a relic. Not known for bargains though. The M1 was the first gun I ever touched. Nice piece of history. But many of the ones you get are refurbed throughout, including new stocks. Worth $1200 and the CMP hassle? That's up to you. Except for the Finn my mosins cost <$150, shoot a similar round, and are plentiful enough that you don't feel guilty modifying them. 

[302w 83]

Do they ever get M1 carbines for shipment to FFL in FL?

No.

 

If you buy a rifle in anywhere but NJ, it gets shipped to your door directly. Carbines have been sold out for years. A few pop up in auction once in awhile.

[Newtonian 453]

BTW:

 

1) CMP told me they don't know when the rifles are coming in. 

2) Saw a video last night on the top 5 overpriced milsurp guns. #5 was the M1 for reasons I gave in my last post. #3 was the SKS and #1 was the Mosin. Those are my two favorite (and only) surplus rifles. Even at inflated prices the M1 ($1200) seems a much worse deal than a $500 sks or $300 mosin. 

[Oakridgefirearms 224]

time to discuss a road trip?  who's up for it?   (8.5hrs from north NJ)

just hoping sum1 who knows about M1s will join in.

Alex, you must drive slow...........

[Screwball 483]

time to discuss a road trip? who's up for it? (8.5hrs from north NJ)

just hoping sum1 who knows about M1s will join in.

As long as I can go in and buy a Garand without issue (no issue with NICS, but prefer to not have to send to a NJ FFL, because that adds a little more hassle to setup and more costs... where people in most other states can have it sent to their home), I'm in.

[Oakridgefirearms 224]

As long as I can go in and buy a Garand without issue (no issue with NICS, but prefer to not have to send to a NJ FFL, because that adds a little more hassle to setup and more costs... where people in most other states can have it sent to their home), I'm in.

When you buy in store you have to pay the Ohio sales tax, which I think is 8 and change %, so you're probably not going to save any money unless your NJ FFL charges a lot for transfers - shipping is included in all CMP gun prices. CMP does background checks for in store purchases similar to a NICS check.

 

Not trying to discourage you from going to the store, picking out your own rifle is always something special, but if you think you're going to save money it's not likely.

[Screwball 483]

When you buy in store you have to pay the Ohio sales tax, which I think is 8 and change %, so you're probably not going to save any money unless your NJ FFL charges a lot for transfers - shipping is included in all CMP gun prices. CMP does background checks for in store purchases similar to a NICS check.

 

Not trying to discourage you from going to the store, picking out your own rifle is always something special, but if you think you're going to save money it's not likely.

Actually, it was more for the club affiliation part... I'm not joining a club just to buy a rifle. I join something because I want to.

 

FFL part isn't a huge issue, but an issue nonetheless. Have to make time with work, during business hours, and if NICS is running slow, it takes up a chunk of the day. If it is a trip, I'm planning to use that time.

 

Picking a rifle does make it a little nicer... especially if someone has a plan for it.

[alec.mc 180]

Bump!

 

My google-fu is weak, and lazy.

 

What's the current deal with this ? any time frame? any price points? 

[Krdshrk 3,877]

27 minutes ago, alec.mc said:

What's the current deal with this ? any time frame? any price points? 

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[Ray Ray 3,566]

I'm waiting on the pinoy's here to chime in.

[The brew guy 22]

On 4/12/2017 at 0:29 PM, Newtonian said:

CMP is an interesting organization. Kind of a relic. Not known for bargains though. The M1 was the first gun I ever touched. Nice piece of history. But many of the ones you get are refurbed throughout, including new stocks. Worth $1200 and the CMP hassle? That's up to you. Except for the Finn my mosins cost <$150, shoot a similar round, and are plentiful enough that you don't feel guilty modifying them. 

Where did you get your numbers? A nice shooter is closer to $800 and that includes shipping. The hoops aren't exactly a big deal either, a scan of a NRA basic pistol certificate (or similar) covers the proficiency requirement and there are a multitude of affiliated clubs. Even if you don't belong to any club, just sign up for the GCA, it's  $25 and the magazine is worth it.

You really can't compare a mosin to an M1, apples and oranges. The SKS is closers, but I'm willing to pay an extra $200-300 for the higher quality, better still, own both and be able to appreciate the difference. 

[Newtonian 453]

14 hours ago, The brew guy said:

Where did you get your numbers? A nice shooter is closer to $800 and that includes shipping. The hoops aren't exactly a big deal either, a scan of a NRA basic pistol certificate (or similar) covers the proficiency requirement and there are a multitude of affiliated clubs. Even if you don't belong to any club, just sign up for the GCA, it's  $25 and the magazine is worth it.

You really can't compare a mosin to an M1, apples and oranges. The SKS is closers, but I'm willing to pay an extra $200-300 for the higher quality, better still, own both and be able to appreciate the difference. 

$1200 was bandied about around the time I wrote that post. I was just commenting on the wait, the cost, the paperwork, the fact that they're not originals, and that there are so many other great milsurp rifles out there. Of course the Mosin and M1 are totally different guns. Again, pointing out that you can have a piece of history in an authentic gun -- albeit a commie gun -- for a lot less. If you like it by all means go for it. This is a hobby (money sink). I'd love to hold an M1 in my hands again after 49 years. 

[tynman 4]

Any word on these M1's getting back to the USA yet? Wouldnt mind getting one myself. 

[GRIZ 3,369]

47 minutes ago, tynman said:

Any word on these M1's getting back to the USA yet? Wouldnt mind getting one myself. 

They will be here when they get here.  They need to be processed by DOD and then graded and inspected by CMP.  No time line to follow.  I'd guess at least 6 months.  That's just a guess.