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if this bill is gonna pass anyhow (and it likely will), perhaps they can at the very least add to it something that will turn the permitting process into something that doesn't have to go through courts and judges.

I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver. 24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times.

Here's Frank Tait's thoughts on the book on the NRA coming out. https://taitnra.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-misfire-inside-the-downfall

What is even more heartbreaking is that apparently it took a Democrat Attorney General from New York to show the NRA members that their premier gun rights organization has been totally violating the laws governing nonprofits, and has been completely wasting millions of dollars of member dues and donations on things having nothing to do with gun rights, to the point that it can't even fix the roof on its own headquarters, let alone prudently spend member dues and donations on the actual 2A cause. And that it took a Vanity Fair article to finally cut through this fake image of Wayne LaPierre the NRA has put together, and give NRA members a look at what type of person has been leading the NRA to the brink of disaster. Why couldn't actual 2A supporters find this out first and fix it before it became so bad and so much money was wasted? Oliver North tried and was thrown out and no one defended him. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=MXZLcCl9fRX7yBbDJanoRA== LaPierre should step down? The board re-upped Wayne LaPierre to his post with celebration a few weeks ago, October 2nd. The entire NRA has to be reformed from top to bottom. https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/nra-members-meeting-aftermath/ https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/02/2021-members-and-board-meetings/ The NRA is so broke it can't fix the roof of its headquarters and yet it is apparently spending $2 Million a month on attorneys to fight the NY Attorney General's suit rather than admit what is now obvious which is that it doesn't follow basic rules for governing a nonprofit and refuses to fire and replace those who are responsible for the violations. https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/18/nra-legal-bills/ When you actually did break the law, the sooner you admit it and try to make amends the more lenient the court will be to you. This is common sense. Not too long from now, the NRA will have spent on lawyers everything it can get its hands on and will have to file a real bankruptcy action. This AG took down Cuomo you think she can't take down the NRA if it keeps simply denying all of this well documented mismanagement, as it has been doing? Robert Conquest's quote comes to mind: “The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies.” Think about that for a bit.

What is even more heartbreaking is that apparently it took a Democrat Attorney General from New York to show the NRA members that their premier gun rights organization has been totally violating the laws governing nonprofits, and has been completely wasting millions of dollars of member dues and donations on things having nothing to do with gun rights, to the point that it can't even fix the roof on its own headquarters, let alone prudently spend member dues and donations on the actual 2A cause. And that it took a Vanity Fair article to finally cut through this fake image of Wayne LaPierre the NRA has put together, and give NRA members a look at what type of person has been leading the NRA to the brink of disaster. Why couldn't actual 2A supporters find this out first and fix it before it became so bad and so much money was wasted? Oliver North tried and was thrown out and no one defended him. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=MXZLcCl9fRX7yBbDJanoRA== LaPierre should step down? The board re-upped Wayne LaPierre to his post with celebration a few weeks ago, October 2nd. The entire NRA has to be reformed from top to bottom. https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/nra-members-meeting-aftermath/ https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/02/2021-members-and-board-meetings/ The NRA is so broke it can't fix the roof of its headquarters and yet it is apparently spending $2 Million a month on attorneys to fight the NY Attorney General's suit rather than admit what is now obvious which is that it doesn't follow basic rules for governing a nonprofit and refuses to fire and replace those who are responsible for the violations. https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/2021/10/18/nra-legal-bills/ When you actually did break the law, the sooner you admit it and try to make amends the more lenient the court will be to you. This is common sense. Not too long from now, the NRA will have spent on lawyers everything it can get its hands on and will have to file a real bankruptcy action. This AG took down Cuomo you think she can't take down the NRA if it keeps simply denying all of this well documented mismanagement, as it has been doing? Robert Conquest's quote comes to mind: “The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies.” Think about that for a bit.

Here's a blog with all the details of the internal hollowing out of the NRA, it is extremely sad reading and really the fact that things have been allowed to get this bad and they still re-up Wayne LaPierre every time is heartbreaking. https://nraindanger.wordpress.com/blog/

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Interesting reading: https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/the-tragic-mess-that-is-todays-nra/384636

This is going to get worse before it gets better. Don't be surprised when the bankruptcy court in Texas sends the case to the bankruptcy court in New York.

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Sure would be nice if someone could open a range in the Meadowlands. So much space there, but probably impossible to get clearance from the authorities.

Pick any revolver from this list: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire#Revolvers

If asked the police will probably state that if gun and ammo is in the same container, they interpret that to mean the gun is loaded. That will be what they say they are basing their website FAQ answer on. A Judge might very well go along with that. That's the law in New York BTW - actually the term loaded is defined to have an even wider scope in NY. https://www.newyorkcriminalattorneyblog.com/new_york_gun_laws_when_your_un/ Unless and until "loaded" is defined in the NJ by statute, or decided by the NJ Supreme Court (or US Supreme Court) then there will forever be confusion. That is why I say that this whole question is unknown. It is why Evan Nappen cautions his clients. It is why saying it's "100% legal" is, in my humble opinion, irresponsible. If you say it's "100% legal" are you going to pay the poor sap's lawyer who relies on you and gets arrested and fired from his job? I certainly do not think a gun is loaded unless there's a round in the chamber (or if the magazine is charged and inserted and the bolt pulled back on a gun which fires from an open bolt). But what I think it should mean doesn't matter! Suing the NJ State Police on what they say on their website might be a great way to have the definition of "loaded" decided conclusively in the courts, however. Perhaps a good idea!