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Oh man I'm starting to regret that range sponsorship

So did DC and Illinois but they are now both shall issue. You gotta believe!

Hmm. No ham here. Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk

Regardless of DC appealing or not. There is still a conflict in decisions by several US Circuit Courts. SCOTUS has to settle that I believe.

The problem with this argument is there was already a product called Ham. It was defined and codified and a currently existing product when Taylor decided to call his most delectable product Ham. I say Mr Taylor was wrong to ever call his product Ham and it was just and correct to request the name change - because as delicious as it is, Pork Roll most certainly is not HAM. Can I take hamburger meat, add spices and beef sausage parts and call it “High Exposures Steak”? I would think not.

I agree...in spades. No doubt. But what she doesn't have is Taylor Ham. Madam, I challenge thee to enter any New Jersey supermarket, purchase and present to me, a cased meat product that is labeled "Taylor Ham". If you do so, I shall forevermore call it Taylor Ham....Until that day you and the other 44.44%ers are wrong and will continue to be so. Your personal feeling doth not a product make. A fork is a fork even if you choose to call it a spoon....unless it's a "spork", but I digress.

Taylor Pork Roll really needs to use this thread in it's advertising. It's epicness is almost as awesome as the salty deliciousness of Taylor Pork Roll!

I've thought (and posted the sentiment here more than once) that the more aggressive approach used by NJ2AS absolutely serves a purpose! I agree with you on that. Where I disagree is when he's turning it against other 2A groups - in a way where he's just becoming a stooge of the anti's. I'm sorry, but that's just D-U-M-B. I'm starting to suspect his work has become more about him feeding his own ego than about pro-2A activity. That's a common downfall of non-profits - people go into it for all the right reasons, but then they get caught up in their own little 15 minutes of fame and they get so addicted to that they start to seek out attention for their own self-aggrandizement. These latest couple of stunts -- the Facebook posting mattm754 just referenced, and this latest STUPID, STUPID interview... are, I suspect, perfect examples of that. Does Roubian know it's not actually about HIM? I kind of doubt it. The NJ2AS membership needs to remind him. I'm not a member... if I were, I would have downloaded on him already.

@mustang69 might know

That's the only picture I've ever seen of any packaging saying "ham" - it's so small and low resolution - who knows if it's actually real or faked up.

If it can be transported as a long gun it looks like I'll be getting a new truck gun

"There's nothing wrong with a little shooting, as long as the right people get shot." Harry Callahan - Magnum Force This explains the progressive attitudes. Just as you see on the subject of free speech.

Bighungry: Et tu? Let me put this in terms you can better understand: Mr. Taylor's original branding concept, being necessary to the promotion of a strong business and robust economy, shall not be infringed.

i was at a CAP training course at trenton mercer years back. just before lunch, the instructor's talking to us.....we hear the distinctive sound of multiple radial engines. then looking out the window, we see their b24 land. we go back to paying attention....then hear it again.....b17. at this point instructor tells us take early lunch. we got out there just in time to see the mitchell land. i approached this short old dude carrying a bag, and looking longingly at the 17. started talking to him. then he started taking things outta the bag. he still had stuff from when he was a bombadier on a 17. map on silk, what looked like a wallet with cards stating that he was an american airman in the languages he might need to get back to safety, etc. then he broke out the photo album of some of his missions. by this time, the entire class of us was standing there listening to this guy. he's showing us pictures of target hits...one was funny. target was town near a bridge, but you saw a sting of bombs hitting the bridge. he goes "that wasn't the target. those weren't mine. someone got in trouble for that one" after hearing a few stories we had to get back to the class. we lined up, and each of us shook that heroes hand.

She’s got moxie

Oh it matters @porkrolllivesmatter

Pork roll. But i gotta respect that plate. Takes balls to be wrong. And go with it.

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BS only Benny's call it Taylor Ham. It's Pork Roll made by Trenton, Taylor, Case, and others. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

You sure it is wasn't this guy?

Well, where to begin? You're all circling like sharks. Normally, right about now, I would try to work the sympathy angle - but I can already see that Mr. Teflon (Scorpio64) with his I-know-women-spidey-senses will shoot that right down. So, I will take but a few of these RIDICULOUS statements and give a quick reply. Please note: if I didn't respond to your post, it does mean your pork roll punditry was not equally ridiculous to the other comments... I'm just limited on time this evening - and can't reply to each and every dim-witted utterance from all the knuckle-dragging pork rollers on this site. Oh, my dear! You REALLY don't know me at all. This game has barely begun! If you can locate my ex-husband (I don't recommend that, mind you, as contacting Lucifer does tend to open up a vortex of evil)... but if you can, just ask him how long I can argue! Once he stops cursing, he'll explain that when it appears I'm on the ropes and my energy is flagging, I'm actually just getting warmed up! Krdshrk, first, so disappointing to see a rift in our relationship developing! Secondly, I find it fascinating that despite your bold Taylor Ham protests in front of the ignorant pork rollin' majority, you have sponsored 2 of the staunchest Taylor Hammers, both myself and @Purple Patrickto join your range. Why is that? Coinkidink? I think not! From a psychoanalytical perspective, I suspect that you are actually a latent Taylor Hammer yourself, just waiting to join our esteemed "Team Taylor Ham" once you work up the nerve! It's ok. We're patient. We'll wait for you... with open arms... bright smiles... and a juicy, delicious Taylor Ham, egg and cheese sandwich with your name on it! Please do! It sounds... interesting. I would never deign to stomp on a man's dream... not yours, and not Mr. Taylor's. Why do you? I thought you were better.... Thank you for your concern! Despite the onslaught... and despite the fact that Purple Patrick and other reinforcements are (as of yet) nowhere to be seen, I feel remarkably confident and ready to do battle. It must be the knowledge that tradition... not to mention Taylor Ham Truth and Goodness is on my side.

The 20GA will be out soon. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk

That Taylor Ham Box Pic is Photoshopped. It's the only thing Benny's have to cling to. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

My guess - with a blown motor it's probably worth about $250-$300 max - if the rest of it is in nice shape. If it looks like it's been used as a commercial machine every day of it's life then it's probably only worth scrap value. What motor does/did it have? The problem with trying to sell it is most folks don't have the know-how to replace an engine.

Here is the e-mail from the state: FFLs - Please be advised that the following decision has been made regarding the Mossberg Model 590 Shockwave, Black Aces Tactical DT and the Remington TAC-14. The New Jersey State Police Firearms Investigation Unit concurs with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) that these pistol grip only designed firearms are legal for sale in the State of New Jersey as a firearm. As such the firearm will be sold utilizing normal retail sale procedures required under Federal and State law. The required State paperwork will include the Certificate Of Eligibility and not a Permit To Purchase A Handgun & Form Of Register. Firearms with similar design and structure must fall within this definition of a firearm and must not have been manufactured as a "shotgun" (NJSA 2C:39-1n) or meet the Federal requirement of "any other weapon (AOW)" which measures less then 26 inches in overall length. The firearm must also comply with all BATF requirements. So now we will be stocking Shockwaves for Legal Sales in NJ - Yay!!!!!

In other words, as a long gun. I’ll correct it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Back in the late 80's and early 90's, the SAF decided they were going to buy some radio stations to "get their message out". Not much really changed, except Alan Gottlieb was now the owner or president (I forget which) of these radio stations. I then looked into their financials, and found Alan Gottlieb owns the company that does all the mailings, too. I haven't given since. I got tired of making Alan Gottlieb rich.

I find it ironic that no liberal idiots are able to pick up on the fact that a gun control nut job threaten to SHOOT Dana. If they are truly against firearms then why would they threaten to SHOOT someone? This just proves how insane and dangerous these psychopaths are and just reinforces the genuine need for the ability to defend ourselves.

I once won a silent auction for a ride in a restored Texan trainer aircraft. I gifted the ride to my dad, but I was there for his jaunt. I will never forget the sound of that radial engine booming through my chest. Can't imagine what it was like to be in the back seat of that beast, and hear the engine roar as they buzzed around. Dad said it was incredible! Almost as much fun as when I took him to sea on my last submarine, and he was allowed to be on the helm when we submerged. LOVE those WWII warbirds!!

I agree with Mrs. Peel 100%. I'm all for fighting an issue from different fronts, but not this way. Use different tactics, but you don't attack the others. It's just stupid and counter-productive. From the outside it seems to be an ego problem with Roubian and he really needs to be controlled (or muzzled). I'm not a member of his group so I can't do it, but hopefully his members can help. To quote mothers of children who fight and break things: "And this is why we can't have nice things!"

[deleted] ... You guys beat me to it.

In 1987, I worked for a company called Bell Telephone Laboratories, better known as Bell Labs. Bell Labs was the research and development arm of the so called Bell system" It was there that the first practical transistor was invented by a Mr Shockley. I actually knew the guy. Lots of really neat stuff, like actual super science, was going on there. Well, to make a long story short, the Bell system was under attack from MCI and sprint and was forced into divesting several "areas", each area was a collection of departments that had common goals. I worked for Network System. There was now a new company that had been created for the BOC's, or the Bell Operating Companies Bellcor was to the BOCs what Bell Labs was to AT&T. They did some research but not a lot of development. They would create a "requirement", send it out to AT&T Network Systems, where they all ended up on my lap. It was up to me to identify who the SME (subject matter expert" was and send copies out for review and to provide feedback on the proposed technology. This was our only opportunity to influence the BOC on what direction they should go, which was for obvious reasons, the way we wanted them to go. Bell Labs didn't really change much administratively, but the brain drain and firewall between Bell Labs and former Bell Labs people over at Bellcor really put a wrench in the works. Hey, you want to read something funny. There was this one time a director asked me to put together a slide show on a PC for a trade show WE were going to attend. Well, at the last minute he decided I was not to be going. I was really disappointed because I actually love doing trade shows. Well, anyway, he jets off to the show, sets up laptop, overhead projector, the screen and the translucent screen that goes on the overhead projector. He could not get it to work, he also could not call me because it was a weekend and he did not have my home phone number. Well, at least he brought a lot of copies of the presentation with him. Anyway, monday morning arrives, and don't forget, at this point I was still unaware he had an issue. He walks into my office and I greet him with good morning and he replied "You suck and you are fired" I was like ha ha, really funny Chuck. Well, he was actually pissed because he believed I sabotaged the presentation, even though he was in possession of the laptop the entire time after we finalized the presentation. There was no possible way that I could have sabotaged the presentation if I wanted to, and I wouldn't because that's not how I roll. Three months later I was booted from the department for all of the sudden not doing a good job in a position I held for three years with excellent employee reviews. So, after the divestiture, AT&T got to keep the name Bell Labs, but the name Bell Telephone Laboratories , a name that had been in use for over a century was gone forever... FOREVER. Nobody could ever use Bell Telephone Labs, not even Alexander himself because he is dead. This little story, while it may be interesting to some, is actually quite pointless, much like this thread. Why? Because Taylor Ham is dead, just like Bell Telephone Laboratories. EDIT: Mrs Peel. I believe this is, game set and match.

Cut in a couple of 1/2" copper tees, pipe it down and use supply stops for the new sink. For the waste, use the 1 1/2" copper line with a new trap, if it is low enough. Drain the washer into the new sink. The 1 1/2' copper is too small for many of the newer washers anyway. Code has been requiring us to use 2" for washer standpipes for years now. Many times I will install a sink to catch the washer waste if increasing the piping is not feasible.

As a photojournalist, I have had the honor of flying on a few WW2 bombers over the years. In 2009, as a Star-Ledger staffer, I photographed Charles Steffens. He served as a B-17 tail gunner during WWII. His family sent him for a flight on a restored B-17 as a birthday present.

DC is only shall issue because they haven't updated their laws yet to react to this. I fully expect them to come forward with additional training, licensing, insurance and restrictions on locations. Expect the 16 hours of training and 2 hours of live fire to be expanded to 40 hours at minimum with regular mandated refreshers. Also they'll say you cannot carry within x feet of any (insert facility type here) leaving one or two blocks where you can carry. That way they can go onto the next court challenge saying their compliant and do issue permits without having to meet a good reason. They will not roll over this easy.

New question - scored a "shop sink" at a yard sale, exactly the same as this: Would like to put it in my utility room where I have existing clothes washer hookup and drain: Is there a "tap" fitting I can use to get hold and cold water to the shop sink and still hook up washer for water supply also? How could I hook up the shop sink PVC drain pipe to the existing copper drain and still be able to use it for a washer drain too?

As an American capitalist/entrepreneur, Mr. Taylor boldly lived the American Dream with the invention and commercial launch of his unparalleled Taylor Ham, produced at his plant in Trenton, NJ. (I direct your attention to Exhibit A (below): the original packaging which boldly and clearly professes "Taylor Ham" in large, cheerful yellow letters). In a sad turn of events, Mr. Taylor's brand name was then stomped on, eradicated and, yes, I would argue, STOLEN by jack-booted government thugs under the guise of the then newly-formed Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906. Thus, for 50 years his product was produced, branded, marketed and widely known as "Taylor Ham". History! Members of the jury, please... shouldn't we respect our great New Jersey history? I would further argue that since its inception, the product was often copied, yet never duplicated with quite the same intoxicating mix of spicy, salty, smoky goodness. The fact that Mr. Taylor was cheated by a regrettable rise of American bureaucracy and growing tendency towards government overreach doesn't make it any less "Taylor Ham" to THIS born & raised Jersey Girl --- as it should be to all other knowledgeable, intelligent NJ residents. [See what I did there? I "pulled an AVB" on y'all! LOL.] In closing, as the late, great Antonin Scalia so brilliantly promoted an originalist interpretation of the Constitution, so do I, appealing to your innate sense of fairness and tradition, promote an originalist interpretation of Mr. Taylor's initial branding concept. Please join me in righting this historic wrong! Let's join together, in a spirit of American goodwill, and enjoy a Taylor Ham, egg and cheese sandwich... TOGETHER! Thank you for your attention. Exhibit A:

WMA ranges are great, safe places to plink with your .22. EXCEPT during the months of Oct., Nov., and Dec., at which time, they become havens of self-proclaimed experts, garbage dumpers and professional hunters. On more than one occasion, I've had to try and convince shooters that adjusting your scope during a cease fire IS considered handling a firearm.

I don't mean to be a pessimist, it's just that we have some rabid anti Second Amendment legislators that will have to be carried out dead from the statehouse before they stop infringing on our rights.

That won't work either.

My left-handed Stag match rifle in .223 has a left-side charging handle in addition to the left-side eject port. The bolt carrier was drilled and tapped by John Scandale of Keystone Accuracy in PA and my upper had the additional milling done by Mike Berezin of MB Sons in Vineland, though Keystone also provides that service. The modification allows me to cycle the bolt carrier without disturbing my adjustable cheekpiece on the Elisio stock I use

Yanno, there just may be a correlation between that map and democrat voters too.

Questions for the Benny's I'm sorry, that includes you Mrs. Peel (so disappointed) If I say "hand me a tissue" you say "gimme a kleenex" If I say "could I have some mustard?" you say "fork over the frenches" I say "I'm going to put on my pants, get in the car, and go to the store" taylor ham people say- "I'm going to slide on my Cavaricci's, jump in my Prius, and go to whole foods" It doesn't make sense Also, there is this: http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2017/10/pork_roll_palooza_answers_jers.html

wouldn't that be the same for us here (unconstitutional) with the justifiable need ?

Its very treatable. PM me for more info.

Of the very little I know about this I do know that it is quite controllable with meds.

Oh, for flock sake. The package says Taylor Pork roll. End of story. Close the thread.

Rosey, I'm sure you handled yourself like a true gentleman. And I'm pretty sure you will be made to look crazy and incoherent. Two things EVERYONE here knows you are not. I'll be waiting to read this article.

missing man always gets me.......

i know you're not. i only mentioned the cylinder heads, 'cause i had no clue the first time i put a set on. i knew better when i had to take them back off, and redo the whole job though.