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Are you 2 joking? Seriously, my chin is on the floor! I'm flabbergasted by your comments. Anyone who breaks into your home in order to steal your belongings is a MAJOR threat IMO. Criminals (even "pros") escalate from property crimes to violent crimes ALL THE TIME, particularly if they're surprised, cornered, etc. Most criminals don't start out as hardened violent criminals, after all - some start out their career with minor property crimes and it all just goes downhill from there. Though I agree that someone looking for a fix is a bad thing, I would NEVER assume that a "professional thief" (whatever the hell that is!) who broke into my home poses anything less than a threat to my life (or the lives of others in the house) - I don't think you should either.

There is an actual, legal, paper recall drive that's getting organized. There was an article in the APP about it awhile ago: https://www.app.com/story/news/politics/new-jersey/2019/01/14/recall-phil-murphy-petition/2568699002/ It's being organized by three woman on Facebook, they're looking for volunteers to get signatures and for notaries. The FB page for one of the woman organizing this is here https://www.facebook.com/talkingterry This has more discussion and lists some events: https://www.facebook.com/events/369048720555804/?active_tab=discussion A march on Trenton is being organized for 3/26 here: https://www.wethepeopleofnj.com I can't argue it's not a long shot, but with all the bitchin we all do here about comrade Murphy, and since this seems like a legitimate effort these people are making, anyone who can give offer some support really should. IMHO.

that's the rub isn't it????? the courts, the liberal jerk offs in this state don't get it at all. If someone is brazen enough to come into my home, I should be allowed to expect the worse and act accordingly. Look at the family in CT for further validation of this. My family comes first, their protection is paramount and someone coming in is a very real threat

That is my primary reason for home defense. Not the pros.

That will definitely NOT buff out.

heh... range date? I have some factory 10 rnd mags you could try.

For real Ant shoots guns?

"Entitled Millennial"

Unfortunately, this ain’t Texas, where if someone is on, or enters your property after dark, it is presumed they are there to do you harm. I think you need to take each situation as it is, and use your best judgement to decide how to act. I also think the presumption that a ‘professional thief’ who breaks into your house isn’t there to harm you is bad advice. Anyone who breaks into your house has the POTENTIAL to do you, or your family, harm. I don’t think it’s safe to say that they won’t. Judge every situation for what it is.

@Zeke @BobA The Len Cottrell story from June 2018 is in the video I shared from my presentation to the New Jersey Constitutional Republicans on Thursday January 17th. I posted it on the Events & Meet-Ups Forum where I post all of the CNJFO info in one place.

This was discussed in great detail in one of the Holster threads. I think a few posted pics of their setups. It was very informative.

Remember when you acquired your first firearm? For most gun owners, that time was both exciting and scary! On one hand, you acquired your first handgun and had hopefully gone to the range. At the same time, let's admit it, unless you were in the military, you were at least a LITTLE bit afraid, either of scratching up that shiny new bluing, not being able to put it back together after cleaning, or even leaving it unattended. After a while however, you become accustomed to it and it becomes "yet another gun." Much in the same way, I look at "going to the range." It is the near universal experience of gun ownership. You purchase your gun and then you end up going to the range to shoot at least once or twice a week for the next 3 to 6 months. Every trip is exciting as you become more and more proficient with the gun and discover your passions for different firearms. At some point however you average day in the range goes from 4 or 5 boxes of ammo to a mere social event and 1 or 2 boxes of ammo becomes the norm. Simply put, going to a typical range and standing in a port and shooting at a bullseye or a zombie target was no longer fun or appealing. If you are at the range, it is typically to function check your gun, chrono your loads or just to make sure the gun works and remains rust free after that unfortunate boating accident. This is why I believe in and encourage community members of all experience levels and interests to go out and try some form of matches, whether it is steel matches or one of the practical shooting sports such as IDPA or USPSA. Not only is it fun, but it is also a great way to take your shooting skills to the next level. But what if you can't do that? I recently came across some targets made by REFactor Tactical. The company is a veteran lead business catering to military and civilians, offering products and solutions for on and off the battlefield. One of their solutions is their line of shooting targets which I have come to call "Targets With a Purpose." There are 4 that I have come to really appreciate. The first target is your standard USPSA/IPSC Practice Target. Generally I am a fan of using the thick cardboard targets for nice clean holes and the ability to paste them. This lets you use use the targets for quite a long time. Unfortunately there are a few downsides. First, a pack of 25 or so has some weight and they take up quite a bit of space to store. Secondly, it is not so easy to use the cardboard targets at many indoor ranges. The challenge is, with a cardboard target, you are attaching the head next to the carrier, so unless you want to risk destroying range equipment, a good portion of the target is unusable. The REFactor Tactical target is printed on paper with wide margins. As such, you can easily use them at an indoor range or outside with wider target stands. When it comes to rifles, my favorite target is the Hitman Target. The target comes complete with a grid overlay which is extremely helpful for sighting in a rifle with a new optic. Once dialed in, the left side of the target has bullseye target grids ranging from 1" to 3" boxes. They are great to use for 1 MOA groups out to 300 yards. The right side of the target features similar triangles and a bullseye target on the bottom. Even though it is meant for rifles, this target is also great for handgun training at close ranges. The other two targets are meant for "gun work," or targets designed to work on the fundamentals of shooting. The IQ Target is a full sized target made up of a combination of shapes, colors, numbers and letters. This allows the shooters or instructors to create a variety of shooting problems to solve. IT could be simple as "on command, draw and fire 2 rounds at the Square 2" or "on command, turn, then draw and fire 2 rounds at all of the green circles, reload and fire 2 rounds at all of the blue triangles." To make the IQ target even more effective, REFactor Tactical offers playing cards/shooting decks which contain various exercises ranging from static shooting to more difficult turn, draw, move and reload ones. At a recent range day, I really enjoyed practicing with these targets and the cards. What is quite eye opening for me was finding out that despite not having difficulties with accuracy, I had real issues shooting triangle shapes, typically shooting just below them. Perhaps to make it even more challenging, I practiced with a completely different handgun than I am used to shooting, a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm versus my go to 1911s and CZ 75 SP01 Shadow Custom. To make it even more interesting, I alternated the magazine between my regular match loads and Speer Gold Dots +P ammo. (Or perhaps I just happened to leave my gun game guns at home and the M&P was the only handgun in the range bag with some ammo.) Finally, the other target that I believe would be of great interest and benefit to gun owners is the Essentials Shooting Target, It is a full sized target of various sized squares and circles, along with a bulls eye. It was designed around a 150 round drill which covers multiple aspects of pistol marksmanship including slow aimed fire, strong and weak hand shooting, target transitions, speed changes, drawing and reloading. You can find the drills in their book, the "Essentials Shooting Guide" or simply create your own drills. Bottom line, these were some of the best targets I have shot in the last 15 years. Factoring in that you are supporting a veteran owned company who produces the targets in the United States at very reasonable prices, there are no reasons why a few of these are not in your range bag for your next trip.

Will do, it is a standard duty or rigid belt like CR Speed, Double Alpha, or Safariland and attached to it are mag holders and a holster from like Safariland. These are generally the belt systems that have the soft velcro inner belt, and the rigid outer belt. The Safariland outer belt will hang on to you, even if you are in your underwear by the front metal clips. This is also good if let's say you are starting with your handgun by you, and then eventually get to a rifle or shotgun if you need it. Think about it, unless you are sleeping in your 5.11 tactical pants... you will need a place to carry mags and gun. Far quicker to wrap around a belt with your gear on it than it is to put on pants. The big one for me was... okay... I can carry one daughter in one arm while holding the gun with the other... what if I need to carry them both? So a spare gun games belt outfitted for my 1911 has 5 loaded mags in mag pouches by the bed. With the gun, that is 60 rounds. If I need more... I am f*cked.

The number one piece of home protection I have is my video security systems. It's been proven, more that once, that video evidence is the best way to catch these knuckleheads either during or after their fun. All the other layers of deterrence and protection comes after the video systems. I read the police blotter each week to see what's going on. I get a laugh after all the "car break-ins" reported. In just about EVERY case, there was no "break-in" because the owners just left the cars unlocked. All the thief had to do is open the door.. Even in the video in the OP, the thief was caught on camera walking up to the car door, it was locked, so he just walked away. First rule of defense, LOCK YOUR DOORS!!! (on your car and house).

Joking... no, just qualifying... I'd doubt a "pro" would try to break in and rob you if he knew you were home, unless he had a vendetta. A "tweaker" on the other hand, just needs a quick smash and grab, and doesn't normally use common sense, so in their case, they would be more likely to run into a armed homeowner at the wrong time. I treat ANYONE coming in uninvited as a threat. Even my kids know not to stop in unannounced or surprise me without warning. That's why it's my dog's job to be the first welcoming committee. The second welcoming committee (me) won't be as nice!

My guess is that the person that does that is related to the person that wrote the law mandating it.

@fishnut could you imagine if it was me? Lmao! @67gtonut would birth a kitten, and then punch it. sorry @Bully.for a little side note

Just make sure you have a weapon light. That's the only way to do H.D. (so I'm told).

NJ Gun law starts out that all guns are illegal then carves out exemptions. CA gun law does not. There is NO EXEMPTION in NJ GUN LAW for assembled vs disassembled Please write us from the prison library when you get there.

I am including Tom King at the recommendation of AC. But I agree that also casting votes more broadly for the well known names offsets the vote for AC. Hence the need to bullet vote.

I don't buy that but you can find a study on anything. Kids used to play war, cops and robbers, cowboys and indians but they also had fathers teaching them proper gun safety and took them shooting and showing them the dangers. No different than power tools in the garage. but it's interesting debate

You would think right? And later to me, thanks to the forum was not surprising once I learned the amount of cops who actually don't care about guns. A friend of mine here used to supply agencies with ammo. Oh the stories of how he went downrange to "check" the targets to score them and had to put holes into the target so that someone would simply pass. Another friend of mine's husband is a cop in NYC... and he HATES GUNS. So not surprising at all... How many rounds are police qualifications anyway? Without a doubt, an average "Interested gun guy/gal" fires more rounds through their guns than a typical local LEO. But is this any different than how many of us own SUVs or Pick Up trucks and NEVER take them off road? =)

So did they ever figure out how the zombies came up/what happened and whether they would actually try to solve the zombie problem? Or is it still a big ass soap opera centered in a Zombie world? Duh... it is all the zombie Sheep that are on the loose that eat the grass!

They had the perfect set up when they had the prison. Of course they never bothered to clear every building or fix the one hole in the wal that no one ever noticed so they had to abandon it! I always said find a prison or a small island in a swift moving river. And as someone already mentioned i always laughed at how perfectly manicured the lawns are in these abandoned towns. The zombies do a better job with their lawns than i do!

In New Jersey, the liberals that believe nobody is really responsible and believe everyone should just hold hands and sing would probably ironically be seeking the death penalty for that man defending himself. And in some states he couldn't legally have defended himself, 20 and all. I wonder if the ,miscreants were mumbling, "Houston, we have a problem?"

I also called member services last week. Since I only receive the magazines electronically, wanted to be sure my ballet is forthcoming. Was told they do the magazine mailings first, then the remainder of the ballets. Said I should expect it before Feb 15th. I have two bullet votes ready to go, one for Ant and one for Tom King.

OK, so this year it's Bullet Votes for both 45Dolls. And Ant will be one of the magnums.

2 more for you Ant. Going out tomorrow.

that's good customer service right there lesson here is what many know already; inspect your rifle when you get it. a canted gas block should be noticable

I bought my house in 1998. The same alarms are still there and quite active with a fresh battery. I know this because they go off whenever we cook something too smoky. NJ can kiss my ass. You want to install new ones, go right ahead. But I ain't paying for it. Period.

The cynic in me thinks the reason this is now required is economics. All else being equal most people would buy the model with 10-year battery. I bet the cost of the new model is higher than the old model plus 10-years of 9v. So now the state is stepping in to force the market. There is a real safety benefit to the 10-year version though. Battery-only units have no safety net once the battery dies. People can leave them dead (knowingly or unknowingly). Extending the longevity of the battery is really all you can do. Dual-power units usually won’t let you let the batteries die, or leave without batteries. They’ll continue to chirp until a new battery is inserted.

This is true, as most people who die in fires actually die from smoke inhalation, not the actual flames. In trying to fight the fire, you can get quickly overcome from smoke and fumes. In every body that we pulled out of a burning building, it was the smoke that got them. Also true, they need the concentrated gas to help pinpoint the source, versus having to check each appliance after the house was ventilated. Definitely true. I went through CERT training last year, and part of it was training with a fire extinguisher. Watching the class fumble around trying to put out a small fire, was scary and comical, all at the same time.

As Much as I Molon Labe as the next patriot, I have to ask; What happens if there is a fire in your home and the fire inspector notes you have old smoke detectors. I'd bet lunch after the range that the insurance company will attempt to avoid paying on a claim. When did the fire extinguisher law go into effect? Is that all existing dwellings or on a CO transfer?

Ok. Couple more questions. You are the only owner or did you buy it used? Did the round that failed to feed leave the mag completely? Or was it half in/half out of the mag? If it was contained wholly in the mag did it look like the top round in the mag was nose diving? Or was it nose up? Or did it look perfectly normal? If half in/half out, did the round get caught in the breech or did the slide chew up the round at all?

When I needed to checker some custom carved grips for target pistols, i bought a checkering kit and taught myself by checkering the interior drawer sides of my desk in the college dorm.

I think we’ve got something here. But I think we should pick it up after the election.

Then go back to focus on safety education, training, and events? Like they started with... lets think back to the change in conversation . Gca ‘38 I can appreciate the conspiracy theory, and greed and power. I’m jus not hip to thinking this is a planned obsolescence entity.

Absolutely. I get how invaluable they are with support for local orgs and their issues.

One has to wonder, if the magic wand was waved and they got us everything we hoped for, what would they do? These are people in very high paid jobs in a very plush building. Are they ready to lose all that? Are they ready to be unemployed for our rights? Maybe not. Clearly they are a tremendous help with backing to the grass roots orgs. But as important as these grass roots issues are what’s happening on a national level? With all of their money, might and lobbying power why do I hear more from the GOA? Sometimes I feel their fund raising efforts exceeds their defense fighting efforts.

Just got off the phone with membership services. They said ballots going out shortly and will be mailed in an envelope. I usually got mine in the magazine. So if you get an Nra envelope check it, before chucking.

Funny!... but, as I said, they need a real top-notch agency to deal with the short-term crisis (and yes, I think the current environment is a crisis), then they need to re-think their whole communications approach. They need a new communications strategy w/fully integrated campaigns that touch TV/radio/print/social media and that includes pre-canned language that anticipates (rather than reacts to) "disasters". (If they have that now, you'd never know it!!). Then they need to hire some really savvy people to execute the plan and to manage the social media in particular (that's a real skill IMO - you need to be quick on your feet, concise, etc. - it's a very instinctive skill). All of the above is far above my skill level, I'm sorry to say. That said, I have enough communications background to think my critique is a fair one - I mean, even without a comm's background anyone can see that some of the stuff the NRA does just falls flat... and there are abundant missed opportunities to control the messaging also. They're by far the largest most impactful organization IMO, but I confess I get quite frustrated at times with what I see. They need to stop playing ONLY to their base --- they need to appeal to the fence-sitters. I don't see that happening.

That’s a heavy burden

Agree. Remington is a higher quality company.

Here's a good, relatively concise explanation of bullet voting: https://www.ammoland.com/2017/01/nra-board-bullet-voting/#axzz5dXAsBja6

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