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Of COURSE you need a 10mm revolver. There’s two types of people those that need a 10mm revolver and those that have yet to realize they need a 10mm revolver. Oh actually three types of people cause there’s Ray.

As part of my self-interest and desire to learn more via continuing education regarding the arcane and confusing, (if not un-Constitutional), NJ gun laws, I have attended several conferences and presentations where Evan Nappen gave his interpretation of those constantly changing gun laws. I have also enrolled and subscribed to the US Law Shield program, for added insurance and peace-of-mind, for the potential pitfalls of gun ownership. I am not an attorney and realize that most of what Nappen advocates usually errors on the conservative side of caution, which I understand and accept. He is not always correct, (who is...?), but I respect his opinion and cautious approach to. NJ's gun laws. While it is a PITA, why take unnecessary chances when traveling with firearms, whether in NJ or other states. Until the SCOTUS makes more definitive rulings, I want to be prudent with my choices in how I plan to consciously comply with the current laws of NJ, as well as the other states I travel to. FYI, when I have gone on multiple state road trips with any of my firearms, I am knowledgeable of and have consciously abided by the current FOPA laws governing interstate transportation of firearms. Having obtained non-resident CCW permits for handguns from several states that allow me to CCW in approx. 32 states, I have on occasion, chosen to do so, where I was able to legally do so. I subscribed to a “belt and suspenders” approach when transporting my selected handgun and ammunition, through those states. For those trips, I made what I thought was a combined reasonable and practical decision to fully load the multiple magazines with hollow point bullets, as my self-defense ammo. If I was in a state where I was not legally allowed to wear my holstered handgun while driving or was not allowed to CCW at all, I would do the following. I would store the handgun and loaded magazines in separate 5.11 ballistic nylon zippered pouches that were each secured with small, TSA-approved combination locks. I then placed both separate locked pouches, along with my holster, inside a locked hard sided, (aluminum) attaché case, that in turn had two combination locks. I would then locate and store that locked hard sided case in the far back of my SUV. Finally, I would pull closed, the horizontal vinyl cover/shade, so that nothing stored in that cargo area would be visible to anyone inside or outside the vehicle, nor accessible to anyone within the vehicle while actively driving. Some folks would consider all of this as taking things overboard or being overly cautious. Well it is a PITA, but doing this and taking all of these precautions, gave me and gives me, peace-of-mind as I navigate through the mine field of different and conflicting legal jurisdictions of different states. AVB-AMG

https://www.ruger.com/products/wrangler/models.html At first I thought, why? A 6 shot, single action revolver with fixed sights. But after seeing the different finshes and then the MSRP I figured, damn why not?!?

American Eagle or Speer 115 or 124 grain never had a issue with either. Targetsports.com has good prices and free shipping when you buy a case. Normally get it within 1-3 days to NJ.

Problem is nobody applies for the carry permits. So there is no records of large numbers of denials. This was argued successfully by the State in one of these lawsuits about 6 or 7 years back.

I think you're a little low here - more like $200.00 - $225.00 is realistic.........

Aitken's problem started when he said something stupid that worried his mother causing her to call the police as she was concerned for his welfare. Josh Huff's problem resulted from his decision to smoke grass while speeding. Like Forrest Gump said "stupid is as stupid does". There was a firearm involved in the cases you mention. No one has ever posted an example of some one being arrested ONLY for possession of a hollow point or possession of a "high capacity" magazine. There's always a gun involved. I've said before and I'll say it again I'm not justifying or supporting NJ's stupid gun laws. You seem to think I am. Ignorance of the law is not am excuse. One needs to educate themselves on malum prohibitum laws, laws that make things illegal just because they passed a law making it so. Should we have mandated classes given by the state where all the laws are explained and we can't leave until we pass a test? Of course not. If you are going to be involved with something it behooves you to educate yourself about any laws applicable to that activity. I have very little knowledge of hunting laws. Why? I don't hunt. When I used to lobster I knew the minimum size was 3 3/8". You seek to think that if I got caught with a 3" lobster that should be okay. If you're going to be involved with guns you need to educate yourself about the gun laws. If you don't fully understand something go ahead and err on the side of caution if it makes you feel better. Or you can not have guns and not worry about gun laws.

No difference. Same laws. Consult an attorney. Just not Nappen.

My buddy mentioned that he has a stock 19 slide with a stock barrel and a threaded barrel sitting around and he'd be willing to part with them. They're on the way to my house....

The inner slav in me came out...

Overwatch was the only after market trigger I have tried. I originally tried on someone else’s Glock. I was pretty happy with my stock trigger in my g19. And almost went stock in the G34. But took a chance on the OV and now I want it in my 19 and all future glocks lol Heard Apex are good too, but no personal experience with them

"...And he ended up getting six shots. Period." That guy ain't no joke lol

Ha! Watch the video... this guy (the mom's boyfriend) cracks me up. Pin a medal on his chest as far as I'm concerned. https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/04/18/pants-less-man-breaks-little-girls-room-doesnt-go-well/

"Fat guy ports"?

Muh gun is in!! Hopefully delivered next week.

A lot of what you say here is supposition. You can suppose a lot of things that will never happen. I'm still waiting for someone to give me an example of a person being arrested for having one hollow point in their trunk. Even though the letter definiing reasonable deviations from the NJ AG is still effect there are many who believe you have to pee your pants if you are enroute to the range. You're rambling on about things that have never happened. That's being a fear monger like Nappen. There is no defense to the vagueness of NJ gun laws. However you seem to feel LEOS don't exercise common sense. You're wrong on that. Yes there have been people arrested because of NJ's ridiculous laws. However you never hear of the hundreds, probably thousands of times nothing happens because most LEOS do exercise common sense. None of that makes the news. It is non-news. Your argument that unloading magazines puts unnecessary wear and tear on them and you might damage the ammunition is frivolous. You probably shouldn't be using them anyway if that's the case. You say LEOS should not be allowed to act on case law. That would be illegal. That's the system created by the COTUS. If LEOS didn't act on case law there would be no right to remain silent, right to end questioning, or right to counsel. That was established by case law and Miranda, who was really a criminal, got off because those rights were denied. I think you're confused with the term case law. The law established in a trial is law of the case. Appellate courts establish case law. Case law can give more liberties or make more restrictions on LEOS.

There is a lot in this. First, New Jersey as a rule does not function on common sense. There may be some LEOs and Attorney's out there that function that way, but it isn't the default setting. So, lets get that out of the way. Next, LEOs respond in part to laws on the books and case law. If you were an otherwise law-abiding citizen should you be arrested for having a loaded mag, or say a pocket knife, or maybe a loaded mag with hollow point ammunition in it, a sling shot out in the woods, or say a single round of hollow point ammunition on face value only? NO. There should be common sense. If you are an otherwise law-abiding citizen that gets pulled over for having your license plate covered partially, should be you prosecuted for having in your possession a 12 round magazine? NO. There should be common sense. However, in this State there is an aspect at least in part of an aggressive agenda and continued brainwashing. There are those that react and let those above them sort it out, etc. There is mandatory jail time and fines, etc. Nappen is a capitalist and a lawyer. I believe he is knowledgeable about the law. i believe that there were times when he has seen that ridiculous shit was thrown out and I believe that there were occasions when common sense didn't prevail and the mala prohibitas transgression and its sentence were unjust. Prosecutors and Judges are just attorneys. Do I need to say more? They could and have had agendas contrary to decency and common sense. Someone that is in a position to have a loaded magazine should have some common sense and discretion, especially in this place that doesn't recognize rights. But, if all of the bad luck and pieces come together one could find himself in a bad and expensive situation. Only criminals and undocumented voters are allowed loaded magazines in this state without being questioned. Take for example driving around with a cased and unloaded long-arm in this state with an FID in your possession. Unless you go where it is expressly prohibited, such as a school parking lot, etc. (without permission from the School board), then you are for all purposes legal to do so. However, try getting away with that at 11:30 at night when you are stopped for a brake light out and a LEO decides to peer into the back of your SUV with a flashlight and notices that oddly shaped case. Is he going to check it? Is he going to let you go after questioning you for 20 minutes and allowing you to you brandish your FID card? Might he take the card? Might he search every inch of your car and put himself and you in danger as you reside on the side of the road with loaded people driving around? Same analysis with the magazine. It certainly by itself is NOT a firearm. By that logic any part of a firearm could be considered a firearm. Lets play along, though. Why are you carrying a loaded magazine? Theoretically you have a reasonable reason and purpose. Say you are transporting your firearm from your home to place of business. You would be putting unnecessary wear and tear on mags loading and unloading and in particular you would be possibly damaging the ammunition in those mags with the loading and unloading process. It is time consuming and that ammo isn't rattling all around but safely contained in a magazine. And then there is the fact that just about ANY NJ law pertaining to firearams is vague enough that there is a "gottcha" built into it any time an overzealous Statist wants to exercise his power. And if for some reason his spider sense starts tingling you will wish you had stayed home that night. It all comes down to the fact that peaceful and law-abiding citizens should NOT BE examined and put through any of this by a common sense legal system, but yet there is always a risk. Unless you have a carry permit in this state all of the people living here are taking some risk if they have guns and bullets, and more visibility and attention brings more risk. Leos should not be allowed to act on case law, and it should ONLY be used internally by them to justify their common sense approach to given situations. And even responsibly and carefully crafted laws are open to interpretation. And in this State, we don't even have those by design.

From handgunlaw.us The only way to resolve this age old dilemma is to force NJ to define the meaning of "loaded". I believe the state is intentionally leaving open the interpretation so the state may prosecute based on their whims. If one gets arrested for having a loaded magazine, the defendant will surely win (eventually), but at a cost of many thousands of dollars. I am looking around the interwebs to find a NJ case where someone has been arrested for transporting a properly secured loaded mag, that was not attached to a firearm. It may very well be that there is a president setting case, however, the state continues to intentionally maintain the ambiguity of the matter. Basically, the state knows it [probably] cannot successfully prosecute, but intentionally keeps the law vague, in order to make the financial burden of defending one's self so costly, it essentially achieves the goal of forcing law abiding citizens to bow down before the state.