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Here's your answer: They granted CERT for this case because the NYC law that created this case tramples 3 or 4 Amendments, NOT just a single Amendment. Interstate Commerce Clause Transportation of tangible personal property both intrastate & interstate Restraint of Trade Second Amendment If you wanted to transport your toaster to make toast in Albany, you wouldn't risk arrest for a felony. In order for one to FULLY understand ALL the implications from this case, one must open one's mind and discover that all firearms really boil-down to is PROPERTY. A TOOL if you will. Wanna fix your toaster outside of the 5 Boroughs? Wanna sell your used toaster? Wanna inscribe "I love you" on a gift toaster? Wanna repair your toaster? Only 7 places to take it in the 5 Boroughs...and THAT ladies & gents is UNCONSTITUTIONAL by & of itself ~R

We all heard of cans (suppressors) for guns. But, after WW2, cans had a different meaning. THAT TIME THE ARMY PACKED GUNS LIKE SARDINES FOR LONG TERM STORAGE

"if you are an adult then no one is coming. No one is coming to save you. You have to take responsibility for your own life and what happens in it." Seems all r getting tired of this bullshit fancy stepping around....i have seen signs on the net that they r ready and waiting for the big dance to start...

Agreed. We were 12 days without power and potable water from the faucets during Sandy. We learned a lot of lessons from her.

Here's my editorial on the Inacker SCOTUS story I posted yesterday: GUN OWNERS NEED TO LEARN HOW THE SUPREMES FUNCTION! WATCHING SCOTUS IN ACTION REQUIRES A CIVICS-101 LESSON! by Black Wire Media Tuesday Dec. 3, 2019 www.cnjfo.com/join-us Scanning social media since yesterday's oral arguments in the SCOTUS case NYSR&PA vs. New York City leads us to believe most gun owners were left in the dark in high school by not having a Civics-101 class on how the US Supreme Court functions. As some 2A pundits decry "the other side had paid protestors along the Supreme Court buildings' sidewalk, how come we didn't see a huge crowd of our people?", ignorant gun owners are in holiday shopping and tree-trimming mode while reading & listening to MSM sources foretelling a huge victory for the anti's. Then everybody gets upset! Feeling flummoxed, they pour their souls onto social media stirring the pot, thus recklessly and inadvertently leading others to "spread the bad news like The Plague". Thing is, the news isn't bad at all, it was merely EXPECTED (mootness issue)! So why is everybody so unraveled? Oh my gosh did an editorial staffer just call gun owners ignorant? YES WE DID! Why? Social media is ablaze with misinformation, pent-up emotionalism, OPINIONS (not FACTS!) and the end result is bewilderment on the part of gun owners seeking a glimmer of hope while reading & listening to a barrage of half-truths, innuendo & outright falsehoods beset upon us as only a well-oiled PROPAGANDA MACHINE can accomplish! In short, we are sometimes our own worst enemy when it comes to social media. Just STOP IT already! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Theresa Inacker, a member of the Supreme Court Bar: Associate Justice RBG asked a really hard question of the city: why is having TWO guns in TWO houses better than just having ONE brought between them? Leaving the one at the empty house vulnerable to theft". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are several 2nd Amendment cases "in the que" waiting for molasses in January (SCOTUS) to do their due diligence and handle this case with the same nit-picking, often misunderstood rules & procedures that have both benefited and plagued this Republic since its inception! Put bluntly, we'll let you know if the ship is sinking, when it's time to protest, and (hopefully) when it's time to REJOICE! Till then, pass the eggnog, pass the single malt, REMAIN CALM and consider placing some of that emotional energy in a VOLUNTEER ROLE with NJ's busiest 2nd Amendment group, CNJFO! You'll certainly feel better #DoingSomething than being a propaganda puppet. There's real WORK to be done, so JOIN HERE from anywhere in the 50 states: www.cnjfo.com/join-us ----The Editor KEEP CALM & PASS THE BOOZE! Rosey

Having read the transcripts, I have a hard time seeing how anything Roberts did could be construed one way or the other. These headlines aren't informed reporting, they are following the playbook trying to pressure Roberts just like they did in the ACA case.

SCOTUS HEARS CRIES OF MOOTNESS IN NYSR&P CASE! UNDETERRED, TRUTH TRAIN STILL BARRELS DOWN TRACKS! by Theresa Inacker, CNJFO Communications Director 12-02-19 www.cnjfo.com/join-us Keep Calm and Litigate On! The day for oral arguments finally arrived, as attorneys appeared before the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) in Washington, D.C. to argue disputed matters in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. New York City. At the heart of the matter, it is a challenge to New York City’s firearm transport ban. Both sides—Pro-Second Amendment folks and anti-rights groups like Big Daddy Bloomberg-funded Everytown, Moms Demand and the Brady folks alike, anxiously awaited a long-overdue conversation on the substance of the Second Amendment’s application outside the home. Disappointing to some, the Court focused on the issue of mootness more than the merits of the Second Amendment’s application outside the home. The issue of mootness seems so academic and theoretical: Well, it is exactly that. Unlike a right to Keep and Bear arms which is tangible and substantive, mootness isn’t very interesting. You may be asking what is mootness? A case is moot “when the issues presented are no longer alive or the parties lack a legally cognizable interest in the outcome of the lawsuit.” See www.FedBar.Org March/April 2008. Not very exciting, but extremely critical to American jurisprudence. Left-leaning media are enthusiastically pushing their articles about how the Court does not seem interested in expanding Second Amendment rights after today’s arguments. They think they’ve found an off-ramp for this 2A train barreling down the tracks. I tell them, do not count your chickens before they’ve hatched. If this train car doesn’t get heard on the merits, the Cheeseman case will, or another thereafter. My pro-Second Amendment folks: do not lose heart. No one knows how the Court will rule. No one knows why a Justice asks a question or remains silent during oral argument. Justice Clarence Thomas asked his first question in three years back in March of 2019 ---that was after ten years of not asking any questions, from 2006 to 2016. I suggest not judging a Justice by his/her questions. Keep calm and litigate on! EDITOR's NOTE: Theresa Inacker is a lawyer who loves Constitutional law and studied how SCOTUS operates. A former Managing Editor of the Seton Hall Law School Constitutional Law Journal, Inacker was admitted to the Supreme Court Bar earlier this year. While some news sources provide a slanted pro-gun or anti-gun Pablum, we at CNJFO strive to give you, our readers, expert ANALYSIS while others chime-in with half-truths, innuendo, and supposition. SCOTUS will release their opinion on mootness prior to hearing the actual case---IF that is to be our destiny. Stay tuned, and as more SCOTUS news breaks, we'll give Inacker her much-deserved "ink". ---The Editors

@Mrs. Peel this should fit the bill...And now a word from our attorney on staff at CNJFO... SCOTUS HEARS CRIES OF MOOTNESS IN NYSR&P CASE! UNDETERRED, TRUTH TRAIN STILL BARRELS DOWN TRACKS! by Theresa Inacker, CNJFO Communications Director 12-02-19 www.cnjfo.com/join-us Keep Calm and Litigate On! The day for oral arguments finally arrived, as attorneys appeared before the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) in Washington, D.C. to argue disputed matters in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. New York City. At the heart of the matter, it is a challenge to New York City’s firearm transport ban. Both sides—Pro-Second Amendment folks and anti-rights groups like Big Daddy Bloomberg-funded Everytown, Moms Demand and the Brady folks alike, anxiously awaited a long-overdue conversation on the substance of the Second Amendment’s application outside the home. Disappointing to some, the Court focused on the issue of mootness more than the merits of the Second Amendment’s application outside the home. The issue of mootness seems so academic and theoretical: Well, it is exactly that. Unlike a right to Keep and Bear arms which is tangible and substantive, mootness isn’t very interesting. You may be asking what is mootness? A case is moot “when the issues presented are no longer alive or the parties lack a legally cognizable interest in the outcome of the lawsuit.” See www.FedBar.Org March/April 2008. Not very exciting, but extremely critical to American jurisprudence. Left-leaning media are enthusiastically pushing their articles about how the Court does not seem interested in expanding Second Amendment rights after today’s arguments. They think they’ve found an off-ramp for this 2A train barreling down the tracks. I tell them, do not count your chickens before they’ve hatched. If this train car doesn’t get heard on the merits, the Cheeseman case will, or another thereafter. My pro-Second Amendment folks: do not lose heart. No one knows how the Court will rule. No one knows why a Justice asks a question or remains silent during oral argument. Justice Clarence Thomas asked his first question in three years back in March of 2019 ---that was after ten years of not asking any questions, from 2006 to 2016. I suggest not judging a Justice by his/her questions. Keep calm and litigate on! EDITOR's NOTE: Theresa Inacker is a lawyer who loves Constitutional law and studied how SCOTUS operates. A former Managing Editor of the Seton Hall Law School Constitutional Law Journal, Inacker was admitted to the Supreme Court Bar earlier this year. While some news sources provide a slanted pro-gun or anti-gun Pablum, we at CNJFO strive to give you, our readers, expert ANALYSIS while others chime-in with half-truths, innuendo, and supposition. SCOTUS will release their opinion on mootness prior to hearing the actual case---IF that is to be our destiny. Stay tuned, and as more SCOTUS news breaks, we'll give Inacker her much-deserved "ink". ---The Editors

I suggest you skim the previous parts of this thread. It goes into why it may (or may not) be important for gun rights. Specifically if it sets the precedence of requiring strict scrutiny for 2A cases.

Has it occurred to anyone that they spent so much time on the mootness question because the decision on the merits is too obvious? I think they are being careful with regard to setting precedent on mootness. The choices are 1. Slam NYC or 2. Do nothing

I picked up a gardening auger bit for my cordless drill. It makes digging holes for posts super easy and fast. The holes the post hole diggers make are way oversized for target holders.

Another thing to keep in mind.... If you are really in need of water in an emergency situation, you can drain your water pipes and your hot water heater for drinking use. I have a 40 gallon hot water heater. I don't know how much water is in all the pipes. Also, I have a WaterBob for use if a hurricane is ever aimed at me again. It is a sealed bladder with a spigot that fits in your tub. Fill it up pre-storm. https://www.amazon.com/WaterBOB-Emergency-Container-Drinking-Hurricane/dp/B001AXLUX2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=water+bob&qid=1575408981&sr=8-1

Fantastic. Now I need a cerakoted toaster.

There's more than one playbook. Sometimes we fall victim to our own anxiety. Here's my editorial on Inacker's story from yesterday: GUN OWNERS NEED TO LEARN HOW THE SUPREMES FUNCTION! WATCHING SCOTUS IN ACTION REQUIRES A CIVICS-101 LESSON! by Black Wire Media Tuesday Dec. 3, 2019 www.cnjfo.com/join-us Scanning social media since yesterday's oral arguments in the SCOTUS case NYSR&PA vs. New York City leads us to believe most gun owners were left in the dark in high school by not having a Civics-101 class on how the US Supreme Court functions. As some 2A pundits decry "the other side had paid protestors along the Supreme Court buildings' sidewalk, how come we didn't see a huge crowd of our people?", ignorant gun owners are in holiday shopping and tree-trimming mode while reading & listening to MSM sources foretelling a huge victory for the anti's. Then everybody gets upset! Feeling flummoxed, they pour their souls onto social media stirring the pot, thus recklessly and inadvertently leading others to "spread the bad news like The Plague". Thing is, the news isn't bad at all, it was merely EXPECTED (mootness issue)! So why is everybody so unraveled? Oh my gosh did an editorial staffer just call gun owners ignorant? YES WE DID! Why? Social media is ablaze with misinformation, pent-up emotionalism, OPINIONS (not FACTS!) and the end result is bewilderment on the part of gun owners seeking a glimmer of hope while reading & listening to a barrage of half-truths, innuendo & outright falsehoods beset upon us as only a well-oiled PROPAGANDA MACHINE can accomplish! In short, we are sometimes our own worst enemy when it comes to social media. Just STOP IT already! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Theresa Inacker, a member of the Supreme Court Bar: Associate Justice RBG asked a really hard question of the city: why is having TWO guns in TWO houses better than just having ONE brought between them? Leaving the one at the empty house vulnerable to theft". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are several 2nd Amendment cases "in the que" waiting for molasses in January (SCOTUS) to do their due diligence and handle this case with the same nit-picking, often misunderstood rules & procedures that have both benefited and plagued this Republic since its inception! Put bluntly, we'll let you know if the ship is sinking, when it's time to protest, and (hopefully) when it's time to REJOICE! Till then, pass the eggnog, pass the single malt, REMAIN CALM and consider placing some of that emotional energy in a VOLUNTEER ROLE with NJ's busiest 2nd Amendment group, CNJFO! You'll certainly feel better #DoingSomething than being a propaganda puppet. There's real WORK to be done, so JOIN HERE from anywhere in the 50 states: www.cnjfo.com/join-us ----The Editor

No, being ignorant is.

Good thing I'm asking questions before making assumptions.

Water purification is a critical part of every prepper's kit. Period. Access to potable water is secondary only to security in the prepper's list of priorities.

This was and is a shit case -- too narrow and too easy to issue a very limited ruling. No idea why this is the one the justices granted cert for. A carry case like Rogers makes a lot more sense for a test case. But I wouldn't cry doomsday just yet if it is dismissed bc moot. The justices, even ones that want Heller to have teeth, must consider the legal issues involved now that the law has been repealed. Even if Roberts and Kavanaugh decide moot, doesn't mean that future 2A cases are dead in the water. I think it likely that the court will decide its moot and that we will know soon if that is the case. Breyer is really a POS -- so much for Stare Decisis. I don't think Ginsburg or Kagan will be so cavalier as to say Heller isn't binding. They will just limit it as much as possible. SotoMAYOR probably will go with Breyer. But completely ignoring Heller opens a whole can of works and bad precedent when abortion cases are heard -- if Heller can be abandoned why not Roe?

I think 10 years is enough time. That anniversary is coming up. We've watched the NRA, SAF and others work the courts. SCOTUS has refused to hear a carry case. We can wait around for the two oldest Democrat justices to retire or expire. That could take years. Maybe the best thing to do is make the convention of the states happen. When the people cannot get relief from an out of control government, they have three choices. Election, insurrection and Constitutional amendment. The first hasn't worked. The second did work back in the day but not without a heavy price. The third is already under way. Since the legislators and courts can't seem to figure this out, why not the people?

Malice can you recommend some setup guides?

And 3 seconds without internet

Kinda follows, don't save silver or gold, just lead and brass, because with lead and brass, you can get all the silver and gold that you want!

Thank you. I have an obsession with clipping my nails short.

That's a very manicured thumb...mani pedi often?

LCD, LED LCD, local dimming LED LCD, QLED, then OLED from "worst" to best as a general rule. Do some research if possible, cheap TVs may have a TN panel vs an IPS panel. TN is good for fast motion at the expense of viewing angle, IPS tends to be better image quality but may not be as responsive to lots of motion, if my memory serves me right. I would at least do some research on TN vs IPS if looking at anything below QLED. Also look into refresh or motion rate. 60hz might be OK for some things and not others. I have a 60hz tv, i do wish it were higher but it works well enough for everything I do. OLED may have some longevity issues (some colors fade faster than others) depending on how heavily used they are, though probably not a huge issue. I see zero reason not to get 4k now, unless there is some specific reason (say 1080P OLED at super discounted price vs 4k LED LCD). Even if you don't have any 4k stuff yet, you might sometime soon. If you are a 1 device kind of person, see if the TV has smart features you care about, 90% probably do. I prefer different devices for specific things, so big big big deal for me was appropriate number of inputs - my tv has 4 hdmi inputs, and i woulda been even happier if it had 5+. Whatever TV you get, spend some time setting it up. I can't tell you the number of TVs i have looked at in someones house that looked terrible because the factory settings were just....wrong... A cheap TV set up right can look much better than you'd think.

Hired hands protesting in front of SCOTUS today, not prepped very well, couldn't answer basic questions. Hang on while I prepare my shocked face. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/12/02/nra-asked-anti-gunners-the-name-of-the-scotus-case-they-were-protesting-their-re-n2557367

I agree and one of them should get sent up north. Like maybe New Hampshire and as luck would have it I live in New Hampshire..........

Ah, but who knows what political pressures can be brought to bear over the course of one month? I'd imagine a lot. Let's see what happens though... we don't know until we know. In the meantime, I can see that a steady, never-ending trickle of new lawsuits will be critically important to keep the pressure on and to increase the chances of one of them going to SCOTUS (particularly if they ever replace another justice and skew MORE even pro-2A - dare to dream!) So, in this season of giving... donate to your 2A orgs!!

"expanding" what rights. these rights are already ours. The CNBC title should read restoring constitutional rights.

Use a safe. Be reasonable in your physical security plans. But physical security is only half of the equation. The other half is comprised of equal parts education and honesty. That is quite possibly the worst advice I have ever heard. Don’t underestimate the curiosity of a child. Instead, teach them young. Secure your firearms properly and teach them why they should be treated responsibly. Take the “mystery” out of them and the kids won’t care about what’s in the safe. Mold your children into responsible young Americans and make them advocates for responsible gun ownership. Let’s bring back the “gun culture” that is so sorely lacking in our State and our nation. Let’s remove “Gun Owner” as dirty word in society. If you hide youR firearms and never speak about them, they take on a mythical life of their own. If you don’t teach your kids about them, they won’t know what to do if they find one. They won’t be able to shrug off the daily assaults by the media, by politicians, by educators, by the liberal parents of their friends. Every time my kid asks about a firearm I stop whatever I am doing and take the time to explain firearms safety. I go over appropriate uses for firearms and open the safe so he can see anything he wants. We talk about what we do and do not talk about outside the family, outside our home. These conversations change as he gets older. But, because we talk about them, I know he knows what to do if his friends ask about them. He knows what to do if he comes across one outside our home. He knows what to do when we are out as a family. He is now resistant to any “re-education” society and the modern day school system tries to put in his path. None of that would be possible, if guns were a dirty secret in our home. Since when has secrecy and exclusion within a household ever worked out better than education, wisom, and experience?

Ok. So, legality aside. I just looked at the video demonstrating the item that is being bandied back and forth. That thing is stupid. While it may be necessary in CA, at this time it is thankfully unnecessary in N.J. If it came to pass where we needed something like that, it is better than most of these devices, but still - it’s bag of hammers stupid at this place, at this time. A “Pistol grip” and a “detachable magazine” are the two parts that are most useful on the AR platform - especially in NJ. In a state where you are required to only keep 10 round magazines, the only thing that makes the reduced capacity even remotely workable is the ability is simply and quickly swap mags with a removeable mag, and a pistol grip allowing you to keep positive control of the carbine allowing fast shots and easy handling when conducting administrative functions and effective TTPs. So, which “evil”* do you think should take precedence over that ability? Why should someone purposefully create a fixed mag version of an AR? Is it to: • Install a grenade launcher? C’mon. • Have a bayonet lug? Most ARs today have free float tubes with low-profile gas blocks that remove the lug altogether. The bayonet lug is practically vistigial at this point. • Have a flash hider or threaded and unpinned barrel? For most people the substitution of a brake, a compensator, or even a crowned muzzle is adequate. There are a few brakes and comps out there that also do a decent job at reducing flash - although most flash reduction is a function of quality ammo designed for reduced flash and barrel length. Also, many ARs are 14.5” and are required to follow the federal standard of pinning anyway. • Having a folding or telescoping stock? Maybe this is a little more useful than the others but it is not as important as a removable mag or pistol grip IMO. Personally, once I find the LOP I find useful on an AR, I don’t tounch it again. Additionally, there are plenty of options out there to make a fixed stock that doesn’t cause permanent damage to a receiver extension. You can swap fixed stocks with LOP or add an adjustable if in a free state, then bring it back to a fixed stock when you return home to Jersey. If you want the folding or telescoping ability for mere storage, maybe just buy a new case/safe/bag/locker. Serious question - Is the presence of any of these features more important than a carbine with the ability to simply and quickly swap reduced capacity magazines? I don’t think any of those features is more important or useful than a quick and efficient mag swap. I just don’t see where the juice is with the squeeze with this thing..... * Note: I don’t think any of these features should be “evil” but we have to work within the current N.J. laws as passed until such time as something changes.

I bet most people, regardless of stance on 2A, couldn't actually name the case off-hand. Honestly, I'm confused as to why so many people think there will be a huge change in history from this case. It sounds like Roberts wants to punt this down the road so it doesn't get blown out of proportion. But even if they hear it, what landmark ruling are people expecting to happen? This is a case on whether or not you can carry guns outside the city and between your own properties. I have a hard time believing it would even be a close vote. But it's not like we'll suddenly gain an abundance of new freedoms.