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As you can see, I’m in full panic mode over the CoronaVirus. It’s bloody terrifying.

We need a Puke gif added to the rating selections.

In my opinion/experience the "local" gun shops in this area very over-priced. Ottomanelli's, Reloaderz, RTSP, etc, etc. I get that they're operating in an expensive area, but you'll never see a good deal from them My general rule for purchasing over the last several years is to check Bud's gun shop and see what it would cost to order from them. So as of today the Sig would be $900 (with free shipping) + $15 NICS + $25 transfer (from the guy in Lincoln Park I always use) which brings me to $940. (You have to call Bud's and make sure they'll sell it at the same price with 10 round magazines) I then connect with the vendors here to see what they've got on hand and what it would cost if they had to order for me. If they're in the ballpark (for me that's about $60) I'd go with them. I don't mind driving an hour or two to avoid mail-order. If you don't care about price then pick a shop you're most comfortable with and stick with them. They may eventually give you some kind of discount/special handling for being a regular.

Isn't that the thing where a bunch of tall millionaires run around and play keep-away? Saw it on a TV in an airport once. I didn't still think it was a thing.

You should know, Betty Crockpot!

what is this crazy talk... you are trying to solve a non existent problem.. augmenting your weapon system to some goofy less functional configuration so you can spare the people next to you at the range.. you are IMO on the wrong track.. built the weapon so it functions the best.. and if being next to you at the range makes them sad.. tell them to toughen up... this whole not a pistol grip.. removing the pistol grip.. its crazy talk.. I shoot a 7.5in SBR... you think your gun is loud? it puts 2ft fire balls out of the front of it.. if people next to me don't like it they can piss off.. I would NEVER compromise the weapon over that..

Quick go borrow a crock pot .

<frantically googling TP recipes.>

Ironically, i have three lowers with no uppers! (yet!)

Well its a shitty conversation for the most part -

Don't people always ask what they should bring to a party? Tell 'em TP.

Zeke’s handy ‘chooting technique correction chart:

You just need to clean and lube them. New guns ship with a corrosion preventing grease which is not really a good lubricant so you need to clean that off with a gun cleaning solvent and then apply the right oil as directed in the owners' manual. For a rifle there are some that advocate a barrel break-in procedure but that isn't always necessary. Google and thee will find.

Here's a note. My wife went to Shoprite Newton about four days ago. Went into the front vestibule to get a sterile wipe for the cart handle as usual, and there's none there. ? I went this afternoon and while checking something out of the pharmacy asked about it. The clerk told me they stole three containers of wipes in 36 hours, so they brought them inside and parked them in front of the customer service desk. The lines today were about equal to three or four days before Thanksgiving. About eight registers open, three carts deep and most carts filled at least to the top line. The self-checkout registers had about a five person deep line when I got in it, and employees were directing traffic. At 3 PM on a March Thursday. Not exactly a panic. But people are gearing up. I was in two medical offices in the last 24 hours and their phones are humming with corona questions. I gather mainly elderly and scared people. I think I'm qualified as elderly, but I'm a long way from scared.

Sounds like a great plan, particularly if you were considering a membership anyway. I don't think anyone is offering discounts on it at this point. Make sure to share some pictures and give us a range report when you get it.

This story will answer some questions that we 'of a certain agemay have been wondering about for a long time! Check it out! Kilroy Was Here ! He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington , DC- back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history. Anyone born in 1913 to about 1950, is familiar with Kilroy. No one knew why he was so well known- but everybody seemed to get into it. So who was Kilroy? In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America ," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax , Massachusetts , had evidence of his identity. 'Kilroy' was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy . His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters. One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his check mark on each job he inspected, but added 'KILROY WAS HERE' in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks. Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With the war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced. His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo . To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that someone named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived. Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest , the Statue of Liberty , the underside of the Arc de Triomphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.. As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo! In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its' first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?" To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy yard in Halifax , Massachusetts . And The Tradition Continues... EVEN Outside Osama Bin Laden's House!!!

Bad at math much. 100% chance of catching it if exposed (building up immunity bro!) 50% chance of catching it if exposed. You're suggesting the first is a better option. What kind of a mental knot did you twist yourself up into to get to that conclusion?

Why is that always true? Even if it's legitimate or not. Ahhhh, no... we don't need that type of help...

It's better than the previous year's 29%. A really good year is about 60% IIRC. Which is why a vaccination rate greater than 50% is desired. It's effectiveness is not only about how close a match the vaccine is to the viruses that year, but also the demographics of those vaccinated and infected. Maybe your younger folks who get a close cousin in the vaccine have a better rate of fighting off this years big flu bug. It depends on what you are talking about. The economics of it is going to suck. Supply chain disruptions and reduced customer activity are going to hurt a lot of companies. tax revenues will fall off. Etc. Medically, we have hospital staff being issued one per day and a bag to stow it in... don't lose it. Peak flu season usually stresses a lot of hospitals. Since covid-19 is looking like it will have a bigger and faster peak, it will definitely overwhelm surge capacity in many places. Beds aside, we are not going to be able to keep up with PPE needs given the current supply chain issues. AS for threat to the population, the dangers are more the knock on effects of infrastructure failing to do it's job. Wuhan city is 11 millon people with about 9 million in the urban center. The urban center is a about 25% larger than the 5 boroughs of NYC with about 6% more people jammed in there. So not quite as population dense. Out of 9 million people, 80,000 or so got sick enough to get on the books. About 3% of that 80k died. We have similar median ages, the US has more fatties (about twice the rate), and China has a more smokers (about twice the rate of the north east, 25% vs 15% overall). We are about even with the rate of diabetes. Then you have to factor in other things, like how good is home care here vs there? If we have better access to OC medications and such and our medical system disincentivizes seeking medical care for less severe cases, we may get less spread. We also get the benefit of not being able to be wildly optimistic since we aren't anywhere near going first. But China got to where they are with less supply chain issues then everyone else will have by both going first, and being the country of manufacture for most of those supplies. At a macro level we'll be fine. If we fare twice as bad as China, 98%+ of us will still be walking around when it is all over. But to quote the nurses with limited PPE supplies and fun stuff like TB patients.... FUUUUUUUUUCK. Will you see patients like that get less intervention? Possibly, without PPE, bodies going to the incinerator is a lot more effective at stopping the spread of covid and TB than exposing your healthcare staff extensively to TB. Nobody will bother keeping track og those kinds of deaths in any public manner.

Don't forget about youtube - plenty of videos out there.

No kidding! It's hard to know what's going on . Here's one clue though - that young healthcare worker James Cai at Hackensack hospital that was interviewed in recent days? On camera, he was talking like he was dying... I'm getting worse! It's the worst thing ever!!, etc. ... and the press was hanging on each bombastic word like it was his swan song... well, he's recovering now. So, yeah, I think there's been some hype. If you're 65+ and/or immuno-compromised, it's probably wise to avoid crowds, wash your hands more than usual, avoid touching your face, etc. Other than that, I'm still thinking there's a lot of overreaction.

This thing is more of a threat than Coronavirus....a threat of knocking over my rum drink. Where’s the air fryer when I need it?!

That’s not funny, that’s troof

Thanks. I just ordered an SM-2.

Good luck with your Journey . I hope you get it done before Gov I mean Mr Ed raise's the fee's.

Well, if your gonna have to pay more for shit tickets, you may as well make it fun.

It does. Unless his name triggered an additional inquiry.

Travel from Europe is now stopped for 30 days starting Friday. Elderly should stop all unnecessary travel. Social distancing is king. Avoid gatherings, groups, etc. STAY THE EFF HOME! I have been Vulcan greeting everyone. Live long and prosper.

Pitbulls, what in that name makes it a family dog? Definition of Pit: Verb set someone or something in conflict or competition with. Definition of Bull Verb To push or drive powerfully or violently. Noun an uncastrated male bovine animal What in that name makes it a family pet? Fucking nothing

Then let's saunter over to bidet analysis.

BYOTP!!!

Asshole dogs owned by assholes.

You can still buy Alcohol from McMaster. It will ship today. I am not sure how long that will last though. I have been using McMaster as my gauge. I identified the WuHuFlu as a big problem in January around the 20th. I studied it for a bit and figured it was going to be a real problem. I have contacts with our Asian facility so I got a bit of early warning on it. On the 26th, I ordered a 2 week Mountain house kit just as a baseline. I have weeks of food year round, but I wanted to top off so to speak. Anyway, right around then I bought some masks. We use them for work, but I bought some forward as I figured they'd run out. I started watching them go out of stock, now they are gone. Then I started watching Full face mask respirators...the kind that cost $150+. They started to go and are now gone. Then Hand Sanitizer..gone now. Now I'm watching Alcohol. Most is still in stock, some have gone out, and come back. Based on the previous items, I'm expecting there's maybe another week or so. https://www.mcmaster.com/alcohol Buy it while you can. When others find out about it, it will go overnight.

I'm getting a headache just reading this thread. The totality of the wasted time & energy is monumental. I'm beginning to think TROLL. Hair-splitting has risen to a new height, and unquenched "show me" idealism is running the asylum. Anyone that thinks you're not guilty until proven innocent should look up the quote from the Superior Court Judge that warned we all own guns at our own peril. Good night Nurse! ~R

Just by dawn dish soap and wash your hands with water....hand sanitizer is the latest crazy fad....that sheeple need to hoarde... The alcohol went because people saw the how to make your own video....better use would be to make case lube with lanolin amd alcohol. People gotta relax.....and the news needs to quite down before they incite the tipping point we can't tilt back from...

@DonkeyPunch WHOA NELLIE! You're from Dreamland & have a lot to grasp. Where you come from (where is THAT, exactly?) things are much simpler. The laws are written WITH the USCON in mind. Here in Joisey, ALL firearms are inherently ILLEGAL (they start-out that way!), and therefore exist in the hands of us serfs only through the use of EXCEPTIONS & EXEMPTIONS as stipulated in the 2C Firearms Statutes and case law. The answer @DirtyDigz gave you is 10,000% CORRECT! You sir owe him an apology and need to do some serious homework! I'm considered an authority on this subject, am well-known throughout the NJ 2nd Amendment community, and as the Vice President of the busiest 2A group in NJ, have appeared too many times to mention at various venues up & down the state. I lecture on this subject, as it's my WHEELHOUSE! I have 48 years of experience behind the trigger, am a former Trustee of my local R&P club, I'm currently a Match Director of a hand gun league (Police Practical Competition---PPC), shoot action leagues competitively, etc., etc., etc. To just skim the surface of what I & most of the NJGF elders know, suggest you visit https://www.cnjfo.com/news and https://www.JustifiableNeed.com . A NJ Judge was already DISBARRED for the way in which he oversaw a trial, refused attempts by the Defense Counsel to enter the aforementioned EXEMPTIONS INTO EVIDENCE, and the way he charged the Jury! The case was Brian Aitken's. Aitken wrote a book entitled, "Blue Tent Sky". There's a GOLDMINE of 2A reality in there that every NJ gun owner should READ! This video is about 14 months old. A friend of mine drove almost 3 hours to get there to do it. I & a few other #2AHeavyLifters have been invited back for March 26th and they rented a hotel meeting room for the event. @DonkeyPunch Suggest you do some homework so you truly grasp what it is to be a NJ gun owner in the Communist People's Republic of New Jerseystan! Rosey

Eat me?

@Sniper - I see posters asking reasonable questions/making reasonable points, and in a reasonable tone, and then I see you responding with condescension and insults. Get out of fight mode, pls. Walk away from the keyboard. Go walk your dog... or have a glass of port. Come back when you're less belligerant. This is a community. Let's be civil.

If the panic buying is in another freakin’ country? I’d say - Yes.

Context matters. Where were those Costco pictures taken?

It ain’t time to make a beeline for the bunker. 60-ish cases in the USA, and one fatality. HE is correct, you should already have food/water/hygiene preps in place for ANY disaster. COV-19 shouldn’t make that much of a difference in how you stay ready. Take NORMAL flu precautions...wash your hands, and practice good sanitary/hygiene. It ain’t Ebola, keep your wits about you, and don’t be taken in by the hype. Keep your head out of your ass. Panic is your enemy...and so are those who are trying to make you panic.