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AFAIC they cannot be trusted. You never know when they are going to turn on you or a family member. They are just plain fucked up in the head.

How much money was spent on a study that proves people that don't have guns don't shoot themselves?!?

Snap Safe in closet. Best 1000 bucks I ever spent. You need a safe with kids. They will find them.

I think the video of the security guy taking an AR-15 away from a rioter has been posted already, but here's a follow-up interview that was done: Seems like a good guy.

Exactly this. What we're seeing here is the same thing we see from time to time with Kathy Griffin. Someone who once enjoyed being a minor celebrity, whose career then faded from view, now realizing their only hope to get their name back in the news is to make some outrageously stupid statement that the internet will repeat endlessly.

I guess this supports everyone's belief on this board that the best thing one can do after buying a firearm is rapidly purchase another firearm, thereby eliminating the risk associated with being a "first-time" owner.

You shouldn’t keep your guns in the cases long term — the open cell foam doesn’t play well with gun oils and moisture silicone gun socks are better

I have one similar to that but has 2 locks on it, its 24 years old and over the winter one of the locks failed. I called them and they sent out 2 new locks and keys for free.

http://www.malice4you.com/images/realsteel/mostlyprecisiontargets.pdf 30 targets, about 30MB These are some random targets I've made up - most of em are designed for .22s at 25/50/100, but maybe you'll find something you like and want to use. One note, when printing, do not scale them (or fit to page), print everything at 100% or all measurements listed will be wrong. I leave 1/4" gutter so most printers shouldnt cut much if anything off.

I have had Amer. Bulldogs, Boxers and a 200 LB mastiff for 13 years, Now have rescue pit. When she goes out has shock collar on, and I rule the roost. I will never trust her. But, she knows I am the absolute boss! I would get another Pit, But, would not advise a weaker owner to get one. Weaker, I mean personality wise. I do pity a burgler though!

Pitbulls are dangerous. Prove me wrong. Waiting on someone to say "it's not the breed".

...to get back out there and shoot. Sgt Toadette and I shot our first IDPA match in three months yesterday. It was at the Phillipsburg Pistol Club, a match that we used to attend regularly, until it got moved to a different day and conflicted with USPSA at Shongum. Shongum also had a match yesterday, but it was restricted in size and preference was given to club members, which is why we decided to shoot at P-burg. That is also a small match, but always has been. We had 17 or 18 people there and shot six stages, all on the outdoor range. Under normal circumstances it would be an eight stage match with four stages shot indoors and four stages shot outdoors. It was just great to knock the rust off. Sgt Toadette finished second overall and first in the Carry Optics division. Already looking forward to this coming Saturday when, hopefully, we'll be shooting an ICORE match at Lower Providence - just waiting for confirmation from the MD that it's going to happen. Get back out there and shoot!!! Adios, Pizza Bob

With lead bullets I usually order the size that is .001 larger than the caliber. For 9mm (.355) I would order .356. This can vary, mostly with guns like revolvers that may have a slightly oversized bore. A gunsmith can slug the barrel for you. For a 9mm I think your best bet would be .356.

W2MC

Like owner; Like Dog huh?

Cost is the main benefit of shipping through an FFL. They can send it using the USPS at a much lower rate than you'll get from UPS or FedEx. Even adding in the FFL's service charge, you are still ahead of the game. If I require a gunsmith, I like to use local people and hand deliver and pick-up. Sorry, I don't know any local smiths that are CZ oriented. I don't even know where to go for "standard 2 day air service" - do they recommend a shipper? FedEx and UPS want you to declare it a firearm and use overnight service because they want it in their system for as short a time as possible. I've bought a lot of guns off the Internet with all of them delivered to my FFL via the USPS. I haven't lost one yet - of course the service wasn't always stellar either. Good luck with whatever you decide. Adios, Pizza Bob

Correct, right now the guns are secure, and the ammo is secure (separately), with multiple measures. I'm concerned about humidity/wear on the firearms over time and balancing that with ensuring they are kept out of sight, even if locked away in a case or cabinet or safe. The advice here has been great by the way, thank you everyone! What a great community.

@Mrs. Peel The study tracked 700,000 first-time handgun buyers over 12 years, was the largest analysis to date of individual, first-time gun owners and suicide over time. I do not want to cherry-pick just a few quotes so here is the entire article, which I cut & pasted below: AVB-AMG First-Time Gun Owners at Risk for Suicide, Major Study Confirms Men were eight times as likely to kill themselves by gunshot than non-owners. Women were 35 times as likely. By Benedict Carey June 3, 2020 The decision to buy a handgun for the first time is typically motivated by self-protection. But it also raises the purchasers’ risk of deliberately shooting themselves by ninefold on average, with the danger most acute in the weeks after purchase, scientists reported on Wednesday. The risk remains elevated for years, they said. The findings are from the largest analysis to date tracking individual, first-time gun owners and suicide for more than a decade. The study, posted by The New England Journal of Medicine, does not greatly alter the prevailing understanding of suicide risk linked to gun ownership. Previous research had suggested a similarly increased risk, due largely to the ease of having such a lethal option at hand. But experts said the new evidence was more powerfully persuasive than any research to date. The study tracked nearly 700,000 first-time handgun buyers, year by year, and compared them with similar non-owners, breaking out risk by gender. Men who bought a gun for the first time were eight times as likely to kill themselves by gunshot in the subsequent 12 years than non-owners; women were 35 times as likely to do so. (Male gun owners far outnumbered women owners in the study.) “I find the work extremely compelling,” said Amy Street, a research psychologist at the National Center for PTSD, VA Boston Healthcare System and Boston University School of Medicine. Dr. Street did not contribute to the study, which was led by David Studdert, a professor of medicine and law at Stanford. “We know women make more attempts than men, but they use less lethal means,” Dr. Street added. “It makes sense: When women start using lethal means, you’re going to see this dramatic jump in rates.” Historically, public health research on firearms has been limited by privacy issues and political opposition. Most previous studies were retrospective: post-mortem analyses of suicides that relied on incomplete information about gun owners and, for comparison, non-owners. Dr. Studdert’s study, which looked at deaths and gun ownership in California, overcame these obstacles. By California law, all legal gun sales must go through licensed dealers and be reported to the state’s Department of Justice. The department archives each transaction and includes more detail on the purchase than most any other state. The research team integrated this information with two other sources: a California log of deaths determined to be suicides, which all states track to some degree; and voter rolls, which include about 60 percent of adults in the state, or 26.3 million adults. By linking gun purchases to the voter registry and suicide data, the team was able to track individuals over time, from October 2004 to December 2016. The researchers checked gun purchases back to 1985 to make sure that individuals in the study were in fact first-time buyers. They also reclassified those who later sold their weapons as non-owners. This left 676,425 people who bought their first gun during the 12-year period and kept it. The weapons were predominantly handguns, which are the method of choice in about three-quarters of suicides by firearm. California did not begin collecting data on rifles and shotguns until 2014. The team tallied the suicides among new owners and non-owners, matched by age, gender and other similarities, and tested for a series of alternate possibilities, like whether owners were as likely to kill themselves by other means. They were not. Another possibility was so-called reverse causation: that many buyers were bent on suicide before they bought the gun. The findings did provide some evidence of that. In the month immediately after first-time owners obtained their weapons (California has a 10-day waiting period), the risk of shooting themselves on purpose was nearly 500 per 100,000, about 100 times higher than similar non-owners; after several years it tapered off to about twice the rate. “We sure do see evidence that people went to get the gun because they had planned to take their own lives,” Dr. Studdert said. The risk of suicide remained elevated over the entire 12-year duration of the study, and it was in this longer period after the first month that most of the suicides — 52 percent — occurred. “During this period, the gun acts much more like an ambient risk — it’s always there,” Dr. Studdert said. The majority of people who attempt suicide do not die; attempts outnumber completed acts by about eight to one. Those who do make an attempt are at greater risk of trying again later, compared with those who have not, studies have found. Still, less than 10 percent of those who make an attempt will subsequently go on to complete the act, said Dr. Matthew Miller, a professor of health sciences and epidemiology at Northeastern University and an author on the study. “Many suicide attempts are impulsive, and the crisis that leads to them is fleeting,” Dr. Miller said. “The method you use largely determines whether you live or die. And if you use a gun, you are far more likely to die than with other methods, like taking pills. With guns, you usually do not get a second chance.” Other authors on the study included scientists at the University of California, Davis; Erasmus University in Rotterdam, in the Netherlands; and the University of Melbourne, in Australia. It was financed by the Fund for a Safer Future and the Joyce Foundation, both of which have supported research on gun ownership, and by Stanford. As rigorous as the findings are, they are not likely to move most gun-rights proponents, who emphasize the idea that people need guns for protection. The study did not examine owners’ detailed information like medical histories or personal circumstances — such as living alone — that could have shown they were at greater risk for suicide. But most risk factors for suicide, like persistent mental distress and drug use, tend not to differ much between gun owners and non-owners, previous studies have found. Any unseen factor that could account for the findings would have to raise suicide risk by 10 times in owners, compared with non-owners, and there were no such candidates, the authors of the new study said. “They really questioned their own results and tested many alternate hypotheses to account for their results,” Dr. Street said. “To me, this makes the findings more compelling still.”

I fully understand. I was attempting to point out that the NJ law is written very poorly and leaves way too much room for interpretation.

Wow, a scythe huh? So it's better for kids to see the grim reaper chasing bugs bunny instead of a hunter. Makes perfect sense. Holly cow, this world is definitely coming to an end.

It's bring your own.

I plan on doing that, it's just interesting to learn the law. Taking the time to learn about NJ gun laws has really opened my eyes. They are doing this community wrong. A real injustice, and I mean it. Not a government for the people

I like to think of myself as a problem solver.

The law is that you cannot allow a kid (under 18) easy access to a loaded firearm. If securing the firearms is tricky, securing the ammo instead is an option.

Why isn't twitter banning him for inciting violence? any of our local liberals want to comment on that?

Did you hear about the chihuahua that killed a pit bull? Actually, the pit bull choked on him

Jeez. I needed a charger cable, so as a Prime member on Amazon, I ordered one. Forget about 2 day delivery, I can deal with waiting a bit for now, but this covid excuse is getting old. Do I get a partial refund on the annual Prime fee? So I have 3 main warehouses within 15 minutes of me. The package tracking shows it going from nearby all the way to Langhorn PA and back to where it started from. Just throw the damn thing on my lawn as you drive past.

All for a fucking TV. No outrage from the left. No moments of silence for him.

I would submit the human is the bigger 'animal'...... Humans are the worst kind....of animal and do not deserve the companionship, loyalty that most dog breeds offer. We make them what they are and are an extension of the pack..... How many shelters went empty during tje pandemic with adoptions.....?.... How many are going to fill back up.?.because of shitty humans and their throw away traits.

My suggestion is to just go through the process of getting an FID and purchasing a plain vanilla Ruger 10/22 from a local dealer and go from there. Also, talk with the guys at the class for their opinion. Good luck.

Well, a "hood rat" lady had a pitbull on a truck chain walking down the street. Guess who was getting yanked around? And guess who had to cross the street?

If we post the picture of him, it would make us "racists." #blm

Look at stack-on for a good locking gun cabinet. They won't stop a burglar but the kids will never get in! a couple hundred bucks well spent!

Agree. Safe/cabinet in the closet is the best way to go IMO. You can't leave any firearms unlocked/available if there are kids in the house.

+1,000,000

This is me after three months in quarantine. Adios, Pizza Bob

I would think that since you are not thinking about getting a gun safe or cabinet that the closet would be your best option. Wipe the metal surfaces down with oil (light coat) and put in a silicone treated gun storage sock. Some protect really well.

Yes, sir. I only carry one bag to the range. Don't over think this. That bag Is fine to carry it all and fully complies with the law. If you want to carry the ammo in a separate box or bag like many do, nobody is going to make fun of you, either. And another thing, it's perfectly legal to transport your magazines loaded, as well. Just do not insert them into the firearm; keep them in a separate pocket.

Separate compartments are fine - no need for locks

Old Bridge's outdoor facility, consisting of our Chrono pit, 7 regular pits plus a dedicated scattergun range is now OPEN! We've been shooting since Friday May 22nd. I guess it's worth it ~R

OBR&PC has been "worth it" since you first asked on this forum, over 2 years ago, and then thumbed your nose at it. There's a LOT more to shooting than standing in a port...

Mmmm…. I see the point you're trying to make, but I think you're trying too hard. Like, I can't really agree with this part above. Example... Retrievers? Bred to retrieve - otherwise they'd be ripping the birds apart with their teeth, not bringing them back to the hunter. Herders? Similar thing... bred to gently nip at the sheep or cattle to keep the herd together, but not to clamp down on their limbs until they break. Yes, any dog can attack... and a poor upbringing is perhaps the biggest factor, but I don't think you can ignore that certain fighting breeds were, in fact, actually bred to fight, and also bred for physical characteristics like powerful jaw strength. I'll keep my Papillon, thanks. Not only is she tiny... but she's a lover, not a fighter.

Jack, , the pits are inbred by design

All dogs bite, nature of design and all. All dogs were primarily designed and bred to kill something. Behavior, there is nothing that suggests a pitbull is more aggressive than any other dog. A border collie bit off a kids ear a few months ago. Like I said, having met many dogs, trained with many dogs and been around packs of dogs.. the pitbulls are usually the better ones behavior wise.. the problem is when a bad one wants to hurt someone it will hurt them. Unlike a little shit dog that spends 80% of its day showing aggression to people, but doesn't have the power to maul. I have a shephard and a pit, both are well trained. Yet, it's the shepherd I worry about when around small kids, because he loves to hunt small animals.. and hes good at it.

What do you expect when you live in Bayonne?

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