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I think it’s more complex than that simple description. “The pro-2A minority has made the calculation that it’s better to deny cert to these cases than to risk a decision that could adversely affect gun rights.” Roberts and/or RBG really need to be replaced.

Shocked? Really? I don't know why everyone keeps falling for this crap. It's the same pattern over and over again. Reschedule, reschedule, reschedule, deny.

I went to Tractor Supply and got a section of 1/4" rubber mat designed for horse stalls. You can buy it by the foot. That's sandwiched between the bottom of the safe and the basement floor to prevent moisture migration. You can cut it to fit the safe footprint, and it complicates trying to get a prybar wedged in underneath. It worked well and didn't complicate bolting the safe to the concrete floor.

Yes! The 2 greatest days of a boat owners life...the day you buy it and the day you sell it!

You should be ashamed of yourself. Clearly conditioned thinking that escaped NJ... Their and their family's safety is no more important than mine and my family's, and more importantly, they don't have special privileges over others, especially with a guaranteed right that is being obstructed by an overzealous and tyrannically motivated State (and in which heaven forbid they didn't abuse some of the power granted to them, as well). Neither current cops on duty nor current off-duty cops nor retired law enforcement should have (or support the dualistic) privilege over the people they work/worked for. They shouldn't get special privileges, especially to defend Statist Politicians, and especially if those Politicians, with the corrupt and fake media as cover, are going to disenfranchise the people of their natural right to self defense. They didn't earn shit, and they chose that profession. They got paid for it and earned an ambitious pension at the burden of the tax payers, their employers, for their service while those they work for and are suppose to protect largely don't have that safety net. And I presume many will move out of state and spend their money elsewhere and enjoy freedoms that this corrupt and egregious bankrupt state won't allow. Rethink your stance.

It's not going to do anything for the average NJ Joe. It will only further confirm how privileged an special they really are.

At least you weren't on a talyor ham forum

Welcome! I grew up in Sayreville in the 1970's. For range, I was a member of Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club before I moved out of NJ. For physical store, I liked Howell Gun Works. Online stores: Brownells, Palmetto State Armory, Optics Planet, and Primary Arms have served me well.

Roberts has went the path of David Souter.

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I really don't want to hear anymore how the SCOTUS will save us. Or how "let them pass the laws. The SCOUTUS will reverse them. They'll be shitting their pants" is a valid strategy.

Did you look at Central Jersey (AKA Jackson) or Old Bridge R&PC? I prefer private ranges over any that allow the public to use, feel much safer at those types of ranges. Too many morons out there and the RO's can't be at each port.......... I have shot at both in the Lakewood area, but joined OBR&PC club and liked it there.

Just get it up off the floor a bit. Most people use wood, but I'd think about using PVC. You can buy a Trex plank at Home Depot for a few bucks.

What part of "RETIRED" is so difficult to understand? A physician can no longer participate in hospitals. A lawyer no longer can perform in a court room. A Cop is no different, he is now an ordinary citizen, collecting a taxpayer-funded pension. If you and I can't carry, neither should he. Maybe that will force the laws to be changed, and maybe hell will freeze over.

^^^^ this ^^^^ Go to home depot or lowes, get a piece of 3/4" wood, plywood, hardwood, whatever, from their scrap bin. Buy a cheap vise and bolt it to the wood. Get a couple c-clamps and clamp the board to any flat surface, and you are good to go. The 30lbs of torque required for the barrel nut will not damage your kitchen table. Edit: lol, I did not realize this thread was a year old.

Are they vegan? Should we deliver them to the automous zone?

You lost me at the word, "priviledge". We are all citizens with equal rights, not priviledges.

The people at large run the risk of running into those "baddies" law enforcement put way after they have been released from jail as well. I personally know several citizens not affiliated with law enforcement that this is happened to. Perhaps conscientious civilians should voluntarily and morally defend these cops and retired cops even though those with a badge have no legal duty to protect the citizens (but often do). Freedom and the right to carry... It will never happen with this kind of conditioning and duality, and with those that continue to give up their freedoms on the pretense of safety and security and a warped view of equality at the behest of the elite.

So I should still have my M-60 (and the gunship) too right? I put my life on the line and earned it, too! The big difference is they were very well compensated and have nice Phat pensions from that job too! I don't.

Yes, screw them. When my rights aren't taken away by a tyrannical encroaching police state, then there shouldn't be an duality between the average Joe and the retired troopers.

Permits are processed through your local PD (though much of that has been moved online since I last did it; it sounds like you're already familiar with that process). BTW, no matter how much your PD might be 2A-unfriendly, they can't just deny you for no good reason! If your record is clean in all respects (criminal, mental health, etc.), you should get both FID and as many handgun permits as you request. The nice folks at your local gun shop will require a permit (that you obtained through your PD) when you're ready to purchase your handgun.

I will let other more experienced shooters weigh in on this. I am NOT - repeat NOT - an expert. That said, in my own personal limited experience, I think a .22 handgun is just a fabulous way to "start" your shooting career. The smaller caliber means less recoil, which means less likelihood of developing a flinch (that would then have to be unlearned). So, you would learn all of the things you need to learn with any firearm... but in the easiest, least punishing way. You should also use the search function - you'll find, I'm sure, several threads about people looking to purchase a first gun. Also, a small tip that I learned from others on here... it's not a bad idea to request multiple handgun permits at the same time. Most people on here say 3. Yes, you're limited to purchasing one-gun-a-month (OGAM) in this state, but I believe you still save both on effort and cost if you apply to get the permits all at once. You can always stage out your purchases... the permits last awhile as you know. Yeah, I know you already got your permit... but it's something to consider for the future! (This hobby is very addictive). Note to other posters: It's been a LONG time since I went through the handgun/purchase process. I know it's changed quite a bit since then. So, chime in and correct me - quickly, pls! - if I said anything wrong to this new poster!

The world of firearms owners seems to be divided almost equally between those who love cleaning their guns, and do so after every range trip, to those who only clean them grudgingly after several or more trips. I must confess that I fall into the latter group.

Up to you bud. Could be a Friday gun. You might like cz moar. Dunno But whatever you do, if the gun jams on white box; don’t throw it over the berm repeatedly..

Oh, and btw, I like "SG Ammo" for online ammo orders. Consistently good prices! www.sgammo.com

Of course, SOP.

“ unplanned donation “ wtf...

Holes in the water to throw money into

Not sure if this is what you're looking for but, for USPSA I have my pistol at 3 o'clock and three dual mag pouches running from roughly 7 o'clock to 10 o'clock. I've only used that set up for 2-3 matches now, but it seems to work for me.

what he said. simplified........it's everyone, or no one.

If yoy dont already have one. You will require another pistol purchase permit for the replacement.

20 years for a pension? Everyone else works about 50 years. What a bunch of slackers.

I recommend you check out Garden State Shooting Center, now known as WeShoot, located about a mile away from SS. I used to be a member there and always regarded them highly.

I didn't say don't stockpile ammo. After what happened during the Great Ammo Shortage you'd be foolish not to load up. But emergency food, emergency ammo, emergency anything by definition means that you have more than you need. Unless you're in combat you will not shoot more than a couple of hundred zombies during armageddon. Isn't there like a personal rapture that occurs after you've killed the 50th zombie?

Pictures of said guns please................

Awesome, I just came back from Cherry Ridge today. It was a great first time. It was pretty calm albeit all the gunshots, but got used to it quick. Scott at the clubhouse was nice. Will be back again.

thank you regular guy. I don’t even know why I am stressing about it. With my luck once it’s installed I’m sure we don’t lose power for a decade.

Why catch them when you can buy them?

Definitely call the ANJRPC and tell them . This is abuse of power plain & simple. My PD generally calls me before I even get the e-mail telling me the process is complete. Adios, Pizza Bob

Siggy, The truth of the matter is we are a slim minority as the brainwashing by the media and the politicians, the majority of NJ Residents truly believe no one should own a gun, Until they need one and recently found out how difficult it is to get one in this socialist state. Every shooting in the papers by gangs drug dealers and thugs are never reported that THESE are the problem, not you and I.

I totally agree. With our current government in this state there will always be duality. I hope that people wake up and open their eyes for election time in this state and get Murphy the heck out of office

lol, NJ always carves out exceptions for cops. They will rewrite the law, just for them.

And they can't carry hollowpoints either.