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I found the following information on Reddit regarding Middlesex County. if this information is true, this is good news for us in Middlesex. "This is the latest update from Michael Roberts, a practicing, licensed, criminal law attorney, who is very active in the NJ firearms community. Screen shot of post attached, along with text for those worried about clicking links. https://gyazo.com/595a979de7274b8a351bffd528983b29 Michael Roberts A couple of updates worth noting. All applications require notarization. A NJSP memo went out recently to PD to confirm this. But beyond a notary signature they are being told to look for a notary stamp. What if my lawyer who holds the power of a notary and signs instead, you ask? No good. Have to see the Stamp says one town in Ocean County. Middlesex County is processing Carry Permits. They are backlogged by about 70. Judge Rea who had been handling gun permitting issues in the County for decades is giving it up. He is passing the torch to Judges Corson and Jimenez. This will cause an initial further delay then more timely processing. One hopes. The AOC is working on a system to remove the Judges entirely from the process. Finally, the Middlesex County Prosecutors Office is not directly involved but is available should a town have a concern. In which case, they then become involved."

Have you contacted strikeforce? It seems your application may have been with the court longer than 30 days.

True, but what if they don't?

wow, and many counties haven't issued a single carry permit yet.

My mistake, yes it was a money order.

So many blatantly false, exaggerated, and inaccurate statements here...one could write an entire book in response... Don't bother arguing....It won't matter how much sense you make.

As horrible as that sounds, it may come to that. They created the policies that they enforce, they should have to follow the very same policy.

Assuming that attorney with anjrpc is taking action on your behalf then I would wait for that attorney to provide you with an update. If not, then I would consult with a law firm(even nappen etc.) to give you a course of action moving forward.

Then he should have called the court! I called the court 3 times, and I got the info I needed. I know exactly when my application was received, I know who cashes the money orders and I know the date my money order was cashed. Whining to Strike Force may not be the most effective course of action.

Agreed, except in your case the court in your area has exceeded the 30 day mark and action should have been taken on your part. I do want to mention Middlesex is also holding apps, but I'm hoping they will start issuing permits before they exceed the apps that are nearly 30 days in.

1) Correct, I spoke to the court on the 6th and was told at that time that no one has received a carry permit in our county. 2) Yes, that we know of. 3) That has not been verified for sure, there is no guarantee that we won't have to take legal action to move things forward. There is also differing statements on who the judge will be. 4) I hope your right, my application has not exceeded 30 days. 5) It would have to as I expect that there are hundreds if not thousands that will be nearing or exceeding the 30-day mark at this point. Once again, I hope you are correct.

A positive update in Middlesex. I received notice that my check was cashed.

I feel for you, I really do. Middlesex County... Did anyone else notify Dan or the Strikeforce yet regarding Middlesex?

And Middlesex...

I was just providing an update to the forum, I know the breakdown of my timeline...How many days has your application been at the court?

No. Today marks my 60th day.... applied 7/13 Fingerprinted 7/22 References completed 7/28 PD approved around August 14th application received at court (Middlesex) September 6th My money order has not been cashed....

I think both of you are losing sight of the purpose of my initial response, which was to illustrate that this "style" or "technique" is not garbage. Everything from appendix carry to SOB carry has positives and negatives along with condition 3 carry. We can appreciate other "styles" or "techniques" without disregarding them as garbage and realize there may be times when condition 3 is a safer alternative.

No anger here, just facts.

who's says he can't rack the slide off his belt, holster, some hard surface? he's simply illustrating the basic technique which he has mastered and his reloads would put many to shame.

But the court has 30 days.

That's the million dollar question. The PD has 60 days and the court has 30 per directive 6-19. What happens after the 30 days has passed? We cannot carry until the physical card is in our hands. I will likely be doing the same around the 30 day mark. I was going to do law shield the same day i get my permit.

That's good, we need to get the info out there regarding the hold up in the courts.

You "been around a while" and "tried different techniques" so, you know it all right? I have also tried different techniques and like I said earlier there may be times where condition 3 is warranted like around small children or in certain locales. Keep in mind, that in other countries they have to do condition 3. I also don't see how its "more dangerous" when the operator in the video can clearly handle himself and though I did not place him against a timer, he appears to be lock step with many LEO's i have seen at the range who are practicing their draws. You will not find a reputable instructor in this country that advocates for this method of carry. Plus, if you ever speak with an Israeli instructor that is honest, they will agree that their method is inferior to carrying with a round chambered. Ok, enter Cherev Gidon Cherev Gidon - Israeli Tactical Training Academy - HOME He trains people in the Israeli style of pistol combat including the draw. Now, i will agree with you that condition 3 carry is not popular here and that many instructors will not teach it, but there are places in the US who specifically cater to this type of training. Open up your mind a little.

That was my point in my previous posts regarding this very issue. The courts can sit on PD approved applications for months, years who knows! The whole "car carry" restriction based on what I know is more isolated to a few instances whereas in our case it's a widespread issue. Please notify strikeforce if you haven't already done so.

"Israeli garbage technique" that's somewhat ignorant. Granted, I am not an advocate for this style of carry, but it is a viable option in certain locales and possibly around small children. FYI, when i carried out of state, it was always condition 1 or 2. I would not call it garbage though.