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    In today’s world what would be the reason to carry a pistol in a holster that doesn’t cover and protect the trigger? Makes no sense to use a holster IWB or OWB without the trigger covered and protected. There is nothing lost with a holster that covers the trigger and plenty to lose with one that does not

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    On 1/16/2024 at 6:33 PM, FDHog said:

    Using an IWB while driving is almost impossible.  I'm going to be carrying a P229 and it's not a tiny gun. Is it OK to take the pistol off your hip and put it in the center console?

    I carry the Sig M11-A1 AIWB in a Vedder light tuck holster without issues. I’m able to drive with it that way without it being uncomfortable 

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    On 1/8/2024 at 2:10 PM, Grima Squeakersen said:

    That might well be the personal inclination of those LEOs you spoke to, but if and when they are told over their radio "better just arrest the guy" guess what is going to happen? And then it becomes "prosecutor's discretion" and that generally goes in one direction only.

    Exactly, that’s why I said in my post I know LEO’s are not attorneys. No harm in getting their take on things though

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    59 minutes ago, ESB said:

    Still doesn't say anything about what to do with the magazine other than it needs to not be inside the gun because the gun needs to be unloaded.  

    I read a comment from someone that was at a US Law Shield seminar with Nappen and he said keep the loaded magazine on you or in a separate area than the lock box. I found this on You Tube

     

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    @Mr.Stu Never mind. Sorry for all the back and forth. I appreciate your help and input

    I just found this from Evan Nappen’s Podcast Episode 157. It really makes no sense to have to take the gun out of the holster and unload it to place it in a safe, when it’s much safer to place it in the safe while it’s in the holster but that’s NJ

     

    Evan Nappen 41:04

    Now you cannot leave your handgun outside of your immediate possession or control within a parked vehicle. It has to be unloaded and contained in a closed and securely fastened case not visible from the outside. The same as if you’re going to end up in a prohibited place. If you’re in the parking area, you are allowed to put the handgun unloaded and contained in a closed and securely fastened case, gun box, unloaded in the trunk or storage area of the vehicle. You can store it in a lockbox out of plain view. Listen, the simple best way to handle all those situations is this. You’ve gone through all this to get your carry license, and you’ve gone through the training of the gun. Get the car gun safe. They’re less than 50 bucks. They have a cable that wraps around the base of the seat. Secure your handgun, unloaded, in the locking car gun safe. It’s now unloaded. Slide the little box under the seat after you’ve secured it locked in its container. That’s what responsible gun owners do. You don’t want your gun stolen. You want to make sure that you’re within the law. Come on, let’s just do the right thing here and secure your handgun in this manner. Not just in a closed and fastened case out of view but use the car gun safe. Really protect your gun, protect your gun rights, be responsible here. That’s my strong suggestion to do that.

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    8 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

    Where are you getting that from? The statute I quoted is from here: https://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/nxt/gateway.dll/statutes/1/2750/3546?f=templates&fn=default.htm&vid=Publish:10.1048/Enu

    This is the state's own repository for the statutes.

    @Mr.Stu Thanks for the link. But where I’m confused because this looks like it’s from when we weren’t able to carry in a vehicle or am I reading this wrong?

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    @Mr.Stu 

    I’ve been looking like crazy trying to find the latest update. I tried researching the statute but so many versions come up dating back to the carry killer bill I can’t make sense of the changes and timeline.  I found this from handgunlaw.us specific to parking at a sensitive place. I’m not sure if there were more changes after this. 

    Over the last couple days I spoke with 3 different LEO’s I know from different towns, one of which is the department’s firearms instructor. I know LEO’s are not attorneys. All 3 agreed that the laws are all over the place, vague and confusing to make it difficult for us. They all said they would not nail a legal carrier for storing their pistol loaded in its holster that covers the trigger in a locked safe placed out of view, as this is the safest way to do it. However we know there’s a small percentage that would be happy to find any reason to nail us.  It’s ridiculous to have us expose ourselves to the risk of an ND/AD to unload and store our pistol. One of them is going to reach out higher up the command ladder to find out for sure about this law. I’ll update when he gets back to me. It might be a couple weeks as he’s headed for vacation soon. In the meantime when I have time I’ll try to reach out to US Law Shield 

  15. Posted

    15 minutes ago, NJGlock19 said:

    NJSig, I bought the same type of safe tats tethered to my car as well. Do you have that in your trunk or like under the drivers seat?

    I keep it under the seat with a black towel covering it. I have a Jeep, but either way I’m not keen on walking to the back of the Jeep standing in the open, removing the holster to place in the safe 

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    32 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:

    That says handgun OR ammunition. A loaded gun is a handgun AND ammunition. I think you're on dicey ground if anyone broke into your car and took your loaded gun.

    I don't think we should have to disarm anywhere. These so-called sensitive places where we're supposedly going to find significant numbers of vulnerable people are precisely where responsible, law abiding adults SHOULD be carrying.

    Mr. Stu I see where you’re coming from but (1) states transport a concealed handgun or ammunition within a vehicle into or out of the parking area, provided that the handgun is unloaded……..

    (2) does not include - provided that the handgun is unloaded, and (3) doesn’t specify that the handgun has to be unloaded when stored in a lockbox within the vehicle

    I’m not giving legal advice this is just what I do from the way I read it. I totally agree we shouldn’t have to disarm anywhere except for sitting at a bar, which I’m sure there’s plenty that would disagree with that part. Murphy et al is just making all the sensitive places soft targets

     

  24. Posted

    On 8/30/2022 at 9:02 AM, samiam said:

    I initially tacked this question on as a comment to a 2018 - 2019 thread about some disturbing policies at this range, mostly involving routine bag searches, unnecessary weapons examination. and intrusive questioning before range access was allowed. I had no responses, but I'm not sure that any of the original posters are still on here regularly (or subscribed to the thread) to see my question. So I have turned it into a new thread in hopes someone here has some current information.

    Does anyone know the current "policies" at Range 129 regarding bag and firearms inspection, and other issues undermining 2A and shooters' privacy rights? I was considering joining, based on location, facilities, and price, but some of the issues raised in a previous thread here would 100% rule that out. On the other hand, the last post was 3 years ago, so things may have changed. I did stop in in the middle of a weekday last week to pick up a brochure, and they seemed fairly busy. 
    previous Range 129 thread

     

    I joined Range 129 and enjoy it.  It’s only 20 minutes from my house. The people are great and I have not had any issues there. The RSO’s are great and have been very helpful with new shooters etc from what I have seen. It looks like they went through some growing pains from reading the old thread. I personally have not run into any issues from the old thread.
    I believe you have to watch a safety video and sign a waiver before the first time you shoot there. I could be wrong on that though. I just had to do the waiver. The first time I went I brought my wife who has never shot, and I accompanied her for a private lesson with the head instructor Bob, who I had previously known. I figured it would work out better that way for my wife which it did. 
    I would just go there and shoot and check it out for yourself. If I can help or if you have any questions just hit me up.

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