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Any thoughts on P320 X-ten? Is it one of. Those polymer or real deal? Anyone know if it is available for republic of NJ?

Are the reloading supply becoming available? Which press is good for starter? I liked Dillon 750 but not too sure!!!

I see some place now price dropping down for at least 9mm and 10mm. I saw it was all the way up to $45 for 50 round...now it starts at $35 or so...by no means to what it was...however, Government just released the relief package ...how else big shots going to suck money from people...fu..ing 2x4 which was $2/$3 is double and triple now...everything is in shortage suddenly ... A naked dance of unethical and immorals of capitalism!!! If you take ethics and moral out from any society what else is expected!!!

Personally I don’t think this talks are going to go anywhere ... this guys can’t move a dry leaf...

I mean first there was China manufacturing excuse then came excessive buyer excuse them came raw material and now shipping delay!!!! Seriously I mean any thing but those devils who is chocking this line to get their profit!!!

I don’t think vaccine has anything to do with this. This is few market players are fu..ing gun owners...as simple as that.

I fully believed this since beginning of this however there are few passionate people, great mathematicians and market gurus, believe it’s either natural of created by Devils(obviously those f...ing stupid leftist)

You are right ..May be...assume that you get one sedan( or more) full of intruders(4-5 or more) if all of them with weapon you are out numbered pretty soon unless you are using some sort of AR or something... if intruders are either less then 4 or not have weapon with everyone, psychologically most will start running after first bullet hits target. So, I agree in range we get annoyed to reload and I am not even suggesting that we need to have mags with three rounds only...but all I am saying is under normal self defense conditions you wouldn’t need lot more. Unless you know that intruders are very well trained. Which would be good stand-off! once again practical preparedness vs paranoia...two different things. Differentiate wants from needs.

May be taking it too far in wrong direction. I am one of the biggest anti of anti gun activist. In my family between NJ and ohio we probably have all toys including AR. However, for home defense I don’t see this big point. I don’t think after use of three round of any type of bullet, you need any more. Assuming every else align.When I wrote comment it was about the paranoia of “need to be ready for anything” it’s kind of absolute statement.

Yes. I agree with you for being ready. However, you tell me being ready for what scale operation? There are multiple scenarios... 1) Home intruders... 2) Feud with LEA (any one police, FBI...) 3) executive branch collapse and army rebels 4) Russian/Chinese/Iran army invade 5) alien invasion .... .... Anyone would be out numbered anything other than number one. If you are talking about one this is paranoid. Don’t need millions of round. If any other scenario millions of rounds are not helpful. so let’s say what do we want to be ready for?

More importantly .. in this forum, how many people used any weapon in last 30 years for self defense in home? Yes we could say hypothetically and now sky is limit.

I don’t believe those agencies would have any impact.

I have two points...1) it is not as much price as US, in US it is at least 1.5 to 2 times more than this. 2) it is not as constricted supply as US. It is more freely available. So the theory of global crisis due to 5M new users and hoarding is little far fetched from reality. As I was saying we as American lives in alternate reality from rest of the World and our reality is more driven by media 24x7 BS’ing.

I was talking to few of my international friends and here is what website of stores like brass pro looks like, in Canada, Europe...

We will check the pulse in another couple of months...

Exactly my point, I was talking about that point a little while ago and face fierce argument that it is demand supply issue. I believe 5M new guns wouldn’t dry out entire world... that concept is just, let’s say, not digestible! Somewhere in supply chain it is blocked to create panic raise price make huge profit ...however we as American are known to live in fantasy world created by our media and disjointed from reality...

I thought this was demand and supply issue!!!

Alright!!! Hopefully we get back on track in year or two or may be never!

Fear is great weapon of devil, When fear is created, see many unexpected results!

Ok. Understood your side however, we are talking about same end result with two different causes. You are saying this is surge in demand so high so stores can’t keep up, I am saying supply has been reduced so much that stores doesn’t have anything to put on shelves. Either way stores doesn’t have any strategy of inventory mgmt. I agree! They just simply can’t!!!

Many parameters you are pointing out is specific to only certain setup of business. e.g. if you are talking about Cabela, yes, you need to consider stock optimization and above certain level of ROI, however, you need to Analyze the curve of demand! Online stores on other hand, doesn’t have same logistics. Here you need to go by manufacturing capacity. Again companies around the world doesn’t have manual Labour instead have fully automated machineries. My point here is, you have this issue two ways. We might have certain level of rise in demand, however Choking the supply is also going to create higher demand as both of curve are inverse to each other(image below). FYI, which characteristic is followed, depends on your business setup, if you are retailer store like Cabela or some online store or manufacturing unit. Your four characteristics falls into inventory optimization. Every Wall Street company think about maximum profits because they have to feed hungry greedy mouths. Economics without ethics!!! Problem here is most of the store that are out of stock have online presence to sell same item at twice or thrice the price. So all in all choking supply, greed driven opportunist business without ethics results in situation like this. Now if you want to restrict the supply chain who are in best position to do that?

I have a two masters in math could discuss any supply demand theory and each variable of each theory you want(over the beer ) and that is different story but here it doesn’t need to be that much complicated either.

Wow! I mean I am not on side of donkey or elephant but need to understand that arm industry is hold by Republicans operated by republican and when the artificial demand increases and supply miraculously starts falling short all of sudden Democrats gets so good hold of industry that the whole supply and demand chain they start controlling. I mean dems are fucking nonsense when they say we will give health care to illegal over veterans and all other BS like you have to say happy holidays and that shit...but just watch which company is making more profit if they are public...republicans also are thief, they give you bullet for 20 cents but takes every last grain of from your plate. They will send $300 IRS check for one year but from next year they take $10000 more( for middle class). This fucking party system needs to be resolved and each candidate need to prove for him/herself and no business can fund the election... that’s how they fucking skew the laws in favor.... I think I already posted once before that this shortage is artificial and will go away once election is over!!!! Price is different thing because greediness is not that easy to let go...

I liked Dillon 750. Anyone know what’s good price?

Are Primers available now in market?