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To quote Evan Nappen: "The exemptions in 2C:39-6g require that your gun be unloaded. The ammunition can be right next to your gun, even in the same box case. But don’t have it loaded in any magazines because if the magazine is loaded, they will claim the gun is loaded."

I'm nearly ready. I only need one more animal pair...NJ mountain lions.

As you may know the NJSP website is not the law. As the disclaimer reads: "The materials and information provided on this website are provided "as is." No warranty of any kind, implied, expressed, or statutory..." On the same website https://www.njsp.org/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml section 6, NJSP provides us with: "As a precaution, ammunition shall be transported in a separate container and locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported." While NJ Statute 2C:39-6 addresses the transport of firearms, NJSP seems to have extended it to ammo without any legal authority. Which page is correct? Who would want a judge and jury to decide based in a website that disclaims all responsibility?

Firearms ownership in NJ is a balance between the letter of the law and cautious common sense. I drive an SUV with firearms locked in a gun case without ammo or magazines. I carry ammo and unloaded mags in a separate ammo box locked with a padlock, in the rear of the vehicle until I arrive at the range. If stopped I will respectfully refuse submit to a request for a search of my SUV or either case without a warrant. Imagine being stopped by an overzealous LEO, handed off to a gun hating city prosecutor, and charged with transporting a loaded firearm because your case contains both a firearm and loaded magazine. How much would it cost to have your vehicle towed, firearms confiscated, bail raised, legal fees, time and inconvenience...even if you win? What are the odds that you would win? Someday someone may be the subject of caselaw providing strict interpretation of the letter of the law...but it won't be me.

2C:39-5 Unlawful possession of weapons: c. Rifles and shotguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a firearms purchaser identification card in accordance with the provisions of N.J.S.2C:58-3, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. 2C:39-6 Exemptions: (b) (travel) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection (g)... (g). Any weapon being transported... shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances. If you don't possess a FPID card you leave the definition of "authorized place...of practice" and "necessary deviations" in the hands of the police officer and prosecutor. In short you travel at your own risk.

"Half of gun homicides occur in only five cities" ... but if you don't live in these five cities we will punish you anyway because you probably didn't vote for us.

NEW JERSEY GENERAL AND PERMANENT STATUTES (UPDATED THROUGH P.L. 2021) 21:1A-133 (A): No permit shall be required for the storage, transportation or use of smokeless powder which is used by private persons for the hand loading of small arms ammunition and which is not for resale. For this purpose not more than 36 lbs. of smokeless powder and not more than 5 pounds of black powder shall be stored or transported without a permit. The "limit" refers to possession without a permit.

Stainless steel model will survive long term storage in less than optimal situations...if you catch my meaning.

There's a lesson here for us all. If forced to defend yourself with a firearm....drag the body to Florida.

For the last record year ATF claims: Prosecutions 11,319 Indictments 8,360 Convictions 6,887 Criminal group and gang cases 1,690

Again, as stated previously above, Congress passed an appropriation restriction that prohibited ATF from "consolidating or centralizing within the Department of the Treasury the records of receipt and disposition of firearms maintained by Federal firearms licensees." They do however maintain a database containing Out-Of-Business records using the loophole that they are no longer maintained. It is more efficient for NJ LEO to reference the Federal Out-Of-Business ATF database electronically than to track down the paper in storage or build and maintain their own electronic library. Just an explanation of why NJ doesn't need the records.

You're talking about NJ records here...but the subject was how guns are tracked. NJ no longer needs the Out-Of-Business records because the pertinent info has already forwarded to the ATF for tracking. NJ only needs to keep info that the Feds are prohibited by law from retaining.

In 1979 Congress passed an appropriation restriction that prohibited ATF from "consolidating or centralizing within the Department of the Treasury the records of receipt and disposition of firearms maintained by Federal firearms licensees" The ATF has "persuaded" manufacturers, wholesalers and some dealers to keep their data in electronic form which can be accessed quickly. Apparently the Out-Of-Business and 20 year old data databases have not been found to be contrary to Federal law due to an ATF "broader interpretation" in the 1990s.

Federal law requires FFL's no longer in business forward their records to ATF in Martinsburg, WV within 30 days. The penalty for noncompliance can range up to $250,000 and/or 5 years in prison.

Federal law requires that out of state purchases comply with your state's laws. Some sellers like Cabelas and some Dick's comply with NJ law by providing NJ state forms (usually electronically) and requirements. Some dealers can't be bothered or are afraid to be in non-compliance.

The ATF's National Tracing Center's (NTC) Out-Of-Business Records Center retains all records from out of business FFLs since 1986. Records older than 20 years are also retained since 2004. ATF can search records of manufacturers, wholesalers and dealers online. Only the ATF/NTC is authorized to trace firearms for law enforcement.

ZARDOZ..."the gun is good"