Genewarper111

Yes... It's also very difficult to schedule when one doesn't know who, or how many (any) will appear.

Not quite sure what is really being asked, however: NRA Basic Pistol - as stated it is now two-part. The first is on-line (and paid directly to NRA). Once this is completed (6-8 hrs, likely several sessions), one can schedule part two with an NRA Certified Pistol Instructor. Part Two is a confirmation that it was indeed you who did the online portion, check dominant eye, teaching the NRA method of safe gun handling, loading and unloading of single-action, double action revolvers and semi-automatic handguns (nb the Instructor must teach all three actions - BP cannot be done simply with one's own pistol), and finally bring this to the firing range for live fire. To complete the course the student must shoot a standard target succesfully, at a minimum of five rounds in each of four four-inch targets at 10 feet, with the option to shoot it at two distances further out. If successful, the student can opt to shoot the "Instructor Certification" target (score 16/20 in a 6 inch target at 15 yards - this does *not* certify the student as an instructor, it's for interest only). You can use any pistol for this, but must shoot all three actions on the range. There is a minimum recommended round count - contact me for confirmation, if of interest. It should be noted that the Lesson Plan calls for the Instructor to have students work together, so it isn't really amenable to having one student being "run through" the curriculum, and it also isn't sufficient to have them merely shoot the qualification targets. Expect Phase two to last ~5 hours. As an aside it's disturbing to think that people are already looking for ways to short circuit this, and if I discovered that an Instructor I'd recommended for certification was doing htis, I'd be really dissppointed. UTAH CCW TO satisfy the requirements for this class, one must take the class specified by the State of Utah, and it must be given in its entirety by an Instructor who goes to UT to obtain certification, and returns every two years to re-certify. The class must discuss the law relating to firearms in UT and does not have a requirement for live fore or evidence of safe gun handling, or any prior experience handling a firearm, or indeed owning a firearm. It should be noted that the AZ permit, when combined with FL, has almost identical coverage as UT+FL, and is obtainable ny NJ residents. FLORIDA CCW As stated, the core element of the FL requirement is that the applicant has taken a "recognized" gun safety course. NRA Basic Pistol does indeed satisfy this, as did the old FIRST Steps Pistol (now withdrawn by NRA), NRA PPIH or PPOH. As also stated, the NJ Hunters' Ed course also satisfies the FL requirement, as will any certificate signed by an NRA nstructor, where their Instructor Number is shown. Neither FL nor UT (or AZ) require competence in drawing or reholstering. I hope that helps - there's a lot of good advice in the thread above. There are also a lot of good (and bad) instructors offering these classes. I'm curious to know how people are viewing the New NRA Basic Pistol class relative to the old one, and why they are getting the certification, so if people have a moment to tell me I'd be grateful. Good luck to all G. Gallagher - www.scotshot.com

... Just remember that no matter how hard you try you'll never be able to train your cat to retrieve the cotter pin that fell through these tiny gaps between the decking....

I hear you. I had the extractor claw break clean in two after 7 rounds on my brand new 226. Sig repaired it and almost 20,000 later, including holsters, mud, sand, it still shoots perfectly. Don't fret, it will be just fine. G

I hear you. I had the extractor claw break clean in two after 7 rounds on my brand new 226. Sig repaired it and almost 20,000 later, including holsters, mud, sand, it still shoots perfectly. Don't fret, it will be just fine. G

Hi there. Definitely try the Sig P225 or P239 Best G

So I have taken a three day (24 hr) class from Rob Pincus and I enjoyed it, and I learned a lot. The concepts in CFS were not new to me mostly, but th opportinity to move through them under increasing pressure was. I found Rob to be a relaxed and expert instructor who had a very clear focus on what he wanted to convey in that (handgun) class. I would probably take training from him again, including rerunning that same course. I took away exercises that I use in my own range work and I also insert into the work I do with my own students, and that is important I think. I don't recognise the Rob Pincus described above Shoot safe(ly!!, everyone Grant

Hi My thoughts are a little different. What gun do you own that you shoot most with, or do most of your holster work with. Let's say it's a glock. Now go buy the small gun from glock. Let's say it's a sig 226, now go buy a 239 (not tiny I know). And so on My personal philosophy is that my carry gun has to work the same as my favorite gun, have the same controls in the same place and so on, or at least be very similar. I believe that when things get stressful one's brain will first suggest that with which it is most familiar. Just my 0.02 etc. enjoy your new gun! G

I have all 9mm sig 226/229/239 and what I have to say applies to all three. Defense ammo. I use 135gr +P Critical Duty. Training/fun ammo. I don't like Remington/UMC, Herter, Magtech. I haven't tried S&B or Fiocci. I prefer WWB (115), Federal Champion (115) or Geco (124). I prefer these rounds because they consistently give smaller group sizes and let me get sights back on target faster. American Eagle is ok but often pricey I've found. I like Freedom 115 but have had light strikes with them so have stopped using it (they have a new "super match" round that I tried 100 of - very good but ~ 28c per). I also use SG and they are excellent. For what it's worth, in my hands the ammo does make a difference to accuracy and ease of the "one hole drill". Enjoy! G

BIT has to be taken separately, and it has its own exam. It's a one time only thing, good for all firearm disciplines. Instructor candidates need to pass this. For each discipline (eg pistol, rifle or shotgun), there is a separate competency (gun handling safety and shooting) prerequisite. Passing this is the gateway to being able to take the discipline part, each of which had its own exam. No Shortcuts, being an NRA Certified Instructor is a Serious Deal. You are being certified as able to verify that every one of your clients meets the standard. For Chief RSO, one must have taken and passed RSO and BIT Good luck! G www.scotshot.com

While I can shoot under 1MOA at 200, I don't consider myself qualified to teach that skill. PM me for details. For those who want NRA Basic Rifle before November, I can run a dedicated class for four or more; again, PM me. Thanks everyone and happy shooting!! G

"Cool your jets" The current law in NJ is about magazine capacity, not length (coughs ironically). Magazines are legal if they hold 15 rounds or fewer. There may be some oddball exception for .22 tube mags to accommodate .22 short. If you hear some bs, say "thanks" and change the subject. Sometimes it's better to move on. G PS. When in doubt, ask Rosie or Pizza Bob

The right to defend ones life is a "natural right". All animals will defend themselves to the end. There is no reason why humans should accept laws that diminish that natural right.

Hi again "We" is ScotShot LLC. You can read about doing NRA Basic Rifle with us, here: http://www.scotshot.com/basicrifle.html If you'd like a referral specifically for long range rifle (200+ yards) then let me know Very best G

Hi. I can't speak for any of the suggestions other than NRA Basic Rifle. First thing to know is that one can't really take this course in a single day. The class and range focus on learning and shooting the five core rifle positions: prone, sitting, kneeling, standing and bench. These are all used in hunting or competition. The class also works through the parts of a rifle, different rifle actions (bolt, lever, pump, semi-auto etc), how to load and unload safely, how to use a sling, the five shooting fundamentals, how to use and adjust sights, how ammunition is constructed and functions, and all on a background of safety safety safety. It is a great course and everyone learns something, even experienced shooters. However, what this course is *not* about is marksmanship; it is about fundamentals, grounding and safety - we are offering that course soon as an all day Saturday half day Sunday class. I am sure you will like it and that it will prepare you for longer range work (I can recommend an instructor for that, not myself). Either way, have a great time on your elk hunt!! G

I have a love/hate thin with this little gun. I wish it had the SAME controls as the 'real' handguns (ie, no safety)and wasn't so ammo picky. It runs well if well lubed tho... G

I'm lookng forward to shooting there!

With the exception of the "FIRST Steps" courses, and the Personal PRotection ones, NRA courses generally require that the Instructor (for student courses) or the Training Counselor (for Instructor-level courses) provides all necessary firearms and ammunition. So, if you attend an Instructor course, you should expect that all necessary firearms, in all covered actions, are provided. If you attend a "Basic" student course, the same applies, and ammunition should be provided in either case. Bear in mind however that this may simply be 22, and one shotgun guage. At ScotShot, we start with 22 and then use 9, 38 special, 40 and 45 for handgun, and 22, 223/556, 243 and 308 for rifle, depending on the student. We encourage students to bring their own firearms, but usually only "bring them out" once the class requirements have been met with 22. All Instructors should have Insurance and as noted above, the NRA Insurance is very good value. I use it for ScotShot. Because I teach a lot, I created ScotShot as an LLC and wouldn't ordinarily bring students to my home, nor go to a student's home. ScotShot teaches out of Fort Dix, which is an excellent facility and has a lot of advantages. As an Instructor, you'll learn the importance of involving students in all aspects of the lesson, and of following the lesson plan. As I said before, you'll find being an Instructor very fulfilling and I'd encourage you to go for it. The community needs motivated Instructors. Very best G

They have it back in stock at 26.99 per 100 G

Being an NRA instructor is a lot of fun and not only fulfilling but a way to really influence shooters old and new in a way that emphasizes safety and fun. All the lessons focus on "Knowledge, Skills and Attitude" as applied to the shooting discipline in question. At ScotShot, we are running the BIT and Pistol, Rifle and Shotgun between now and the end of the year. We believe in letting people understand and prepare properly rather than rushing through; you can read about our courses and sign up directly, here: http://www.scotshot.com/instructor.html Please don't hesitate to contact us with any questions you may have.

^^^ Exactly, so don't forget that you have the gun in a holster then get in your car and drive home.....

Just looking at the schedule above, and noting the 6 hrs scheduled for NRA Personal Protection Inside the Home, potential trainees should note that the BARE MINIMUM described in the NRA Instructor manual for this course is seven hours and forty minutes. Caveat emptor Grant Gallagher, NRA Certified Instructor and Appointed Training Counselor

JULY 4TH PARENT-CHILDREN-FAMILY TRAINING OFFERS FROM SCOTSHOT!! At ScotShot, like you, we believe that firearms safety is paramount, particularly where children are involved. We also believe that bringing the next generation into our sport is the best way to have it continue, and what better time is there to do this, than in the month where the USA took responsibility for its own fate and adopted the Declaration of Independence? We have two offers designed to safely introduce children over the age of 12 years to firearms and the shooting sports; these being made available as a special offer and are not available from the ScotShot website: INTRODUCTION TO RIFLE AND PISTOL July 13th, Fort Dix, 8.30 am - 5 pm This course will cover the NRA "FIRST Steps" curriculum for semi-automatic handgun and .22 rifle. Topics covered include the Three Rules for Safe Gun Handling, the Fundamentals of shooting, parts of rifles and pistols, parts and function of ammunition, safely firing a rifle and safely firing a pistol, and more. All firearms and ammunition will be provided. NRA course books in Rifle and Pistol are also provided. At the end of the course, NRA FIRST Steps Certificates of Completion in Pistol and Rifle will be awarded (and adults may use these as proof of training for the Florida CCW permit application). COST: $99 per adult, one child over 12 years old with each adult, free. EMAIL [email protected] for confirmation and further details; first come, first served. FIREARM SAFETY IN THE HOME July 27th, Fort Dix, 8.30 am - 12.30 pm This is a non-shooting course covering the NRA "Home Firearm Safety" curriculum. In the classroom, we discuss the Three Rules for Safe Gun Handling, types of common firearm actions in handgun, rifle and shotgun, how to unload a firearm and make it safe, how to store firearms safely, how firearms accidents arise, and more. All firearms and practice, non-functional ammunition will be provided. The NRA course book in Home Firearms Safety are also provided. At the end of the course, NRA certificates in Firearm Safety are awarded. This is an excellent safety course that provides familiarity with a broad range of firearms. COST: $90 per adult, one child over 12 years old with each adult, free. EMAIL [email protected] for confirmation and further details; first come, first served. Please note: children must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. Parents must work the course with their children. We look forward to hearing from you Sincerely, ScotShot LLC [email protected]

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as complaining. The arithmetic is appealing, even if the class is set up as less minimalist than you propose. I am curios though why the jump to $90/hr for range time for other options. But it's your facility, so your rules ( and I've shot there.. Great range) G

Hi everyone. FYI NRA FIRST Steps requires that students bring their own firearms and ammunition. The class is taught to one action type only (eg, semi auto, or da revolver). If people want to shoot a range of firearms provided by the instructor, then the better course is NRA Basic Pistol, which covers multiple handgun action types (eg DA & SA revolver, striker and hammer fired semi-autos); these, and appropriate ammo must be provided by the instructor. I run this class and so do others. It is definitely worthwhile to consider it. The certificate is valid for the FL VA AZ and CT permits. The class takes a whole day with me, longer with some. You can see details of the course here: http://www.scotshot.com/basicpistol.html Readers should note that only the UT permit (which requires a different training) will allow NJ residents to carry in PA Best G