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  1. If I went to court, I would argue the AWB doesn’t apply to bolt guns. My adjustable stock was legally assembled on a rifle that allows an adjustable stock and that’s where it has stayed. Whether it’s 20 sec by hand or 2 min with an Allen key, we don’t actually know if that matters or not to a jury. In the grand scheme of things, what’s 15 min with a common wrench and screw driver? Depending on how you frame it, everything is readily assembled since we have nothing to further define it. Are we now trying to expand the reach of the AWB here? That seems to be where we are going. NJSP specifically called out people falling into a trap and building a SBR by accident if not following their guidelines exactly. If they took the time to mention that, would it also not seem reasonable they make a statement of “if you own any other AR platform in addition to this weapon, you will be breaking the law” ? I understand what and why are you doing this. No one wants to be caught with their pants down but I think you are searching for an answer that doesn’t exist because no one has ever faced this charge before, for a reason.
  2. Would having a folding/collapsible stock on a bolt gun under the same roof as an AR be breaking the law? The precision shooters on this forum might have some problems if that’s the case.
  3. But they aren’t parts anymore. It’s an assembled, legal firearm, alongside other complete, legal firearms. Owning one doesn’t suddenly make the other illegal unless you start disassembling them and then you do have a collection of parts to assemble an illegal weapon. A bit of a logic test based on your reading of the law- Assuming you had no other rifles, wouldn’t owning one of these non-NFA firearms in of itself break the law? A simple twist of a screw driver removes the VFG and now you have an “assault rifle”. If a simple screw can keep this weapon legal, why wouldn’t takedown pins separating two different weapons be enough to keep both legal?
  4. Totally agree, especially in a state like NJ. Just seems like we’ve gone well beyond what is necessary. I feel like we aren’t far from the legality of owning a hack saw and a rifle at the same time.
  5. you aren’t intending to build an assault weapon. You have the other required parts available to build a perfectly legal firearm.
  6. If the laws were read that way, wouldn’t every single person who owns an AR pistol and a regular AR be guilty as it easily could be converted to an SBR? Its like people want to be found guilty of something at this point. Build/buy your non-NFA firearm, shoot and be happy
  7. Sons of Liberty Gunworks is also making them. Price is on the higher side but, you can get some awesome parts https://sonsoflibertygw.com/solgw-occupied-zone-other-firearm-customizable/
  8. The past few posts .. Granted we can disagree with whether or not it was smart to contact NJSP, the guy gave us the favorable answer that we all knew to be true. Green light to build, buy current and future non-NFA guns as long as they meet the guidelines laid out in the original approval letter. Showing them off here or on facebook is the same as showing off any other gun on social media ( I see both sides of that argument). But to think that suddenly opening a thread on here will open us up to legal changes as compared to any other thread is a little ridiculous. Politicians are always looking for ways to reinterpret or change the AWB. Might as well as shut down this whole forum as a major part of it is showing and advising people on how to legal build/buy firearms that they dont want us to have in the 1st place
  9. I think PK is referring to the stupidity of the NJSP to try and restrict this more than us trying to acquire one
  10. Neither do I. The letter outlined why these guns passed their test so it shouldn’t be scary to build the same thing yourself. It’s like asking if some new company on the block started producing AR15s and everyone needs to check if they are legal to own. Well, do they fall within current laws? Yep? Coo, go ahead and get it. I’ve started picking out parts. I was originally going to snag one of the upper kits from PSA but I’ve already gotten to the point of wanting to swap so many things out, I might as well start from scratch. The one thing I can’t remember since I’m crossed between 3 different threads on this topic. Folding braces- extended or collapsed for measuring OAL?
  11. Correct. I deleted my post comment. I was reading about a case in CT where the ATF raided a FFL because that field office decided to measure from the hinge and the weapons were falling under the 26" OAL. Turns out, the shop was converting "pistols" to "firearms" by adding a VFG but in the process was creating AOW and circumventing the NFA rules. Or at least that was the jist I got.
  12. Bingo. All the more reason to build yourself. No way to track what receivers are built into a rifle vs firearm without going door to door
  13. do you have anything else from the statement besides a single line?
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