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Also, they normally tell you 6weeks when you drop off your paperwork.

My permits take exactly 1 month in TWP. I never call and inquire, they just call when they are ready for pick up. They allow me to pick them up later in the evening as well. Call the chief's office and talk to him. http://www.washingtontwppolice.org/Contact_Us.html Office of Chief Rafael Muniz 856-589-6664 Internal Affairs Unit 856-589-0330 x 272 Records Bureau 856-589-0764 Non-Emergent Police Service 856-256-1212 General Police Information 856-589-6650 Municipal Court 856-589-0546

send me an IM on the board with your specific questions as to not pollute the original threads topic. they can be either on the job what to do type or SHTF centric.

http://www.medicalsc...trauma_2009.pdf I can continue with more if you like. FYI this is how the military rolls... and they see a LOT more GSW then the civi side. Moving or not moving is really irrelevant, unless there is NEW neurological deficit.

I can;t wait for this to come out. The original version rocked... I hope it's not a disappointment.

There is no proven empirical data proving someone with a GSW must be back boarded. Provided there is no immediate neurological damage. Boarding someone post GSW may actually make them worse for many reason. Delay in getting to trauma and positional breathing issues being the main issues. Surgeon's knives fix trauma... nothing else.

This is my area of expertise. I do this for a living. I hold numerous instructional certifications and train my fellow first responders. I have treated people who have been shot, stabbed, etc MANY times, some times successful sometimes not. In your mind you need to separate a "blow out" or GSW Kit etc from a boo-boo kit. Obviously get professional training first, but don't be disappointed when you go to the American Red Cross, take a first aid class, and don't come out with the knowledge how to truly handle a serious injury (GSW or other penetrating trauma) They will provide you with a strong base to move forward with. Initially you want to ensure the area is safe. This mean disarm the individual who is wounded and throw on some gloves (nitrile are the industry standard) Treat obvious external hemorrhage (think squirting blood) Assuming its a GSW to a limb and there is arterial bleeding (squirting blood) you should tourniquet(TQ). tourniquets are used for HOURS in the operating room. There have been documented cases where TQ have been in place for 24hrs in Afghanistan and the limb was maintained. So don't be afraid to use one.(in NJ you are never more than 1hr from a trauma center by ground, even quicker by air) Placement should be as close to the wound as possible (think 1-2" above) and should stop the arterial spray. If the spray hasn't stopped you need to tighten the TQ or reapply. more to follow later.

I think the neighbors will still be ass holes no matter what happens...

It appears so... http://global.remax.com/1026128019-10

And so it begins.... http://njtoday.net/2012/07/30/lautenberg-to-sponsor-bill-restricting-online-ammunition-sales/ Lautenberg To Sponsor Bill Restricting Online Ammunition Sales July 30, 2012 [/url] Sen. Frank Lautenberg NEW YORK, N.Y.– U.S. Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY4) and advocates from the gun safety community announced new legislation being introduced this week that would restrict the sale of ammunition over the internet. The bill, called the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act, aims to keep Americans safe by limiting the ability to anonymously purchase unlimited quantities of ammunition through the internet or other mail-order means. It would also require that ammunition dealers report bulk sales of ammunition to law enforcement. The man accused of killing 12 and injuring 58 in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater this month had purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition on the internet shortly before the shooting spree, according to law enforcement officials. “If someone wants to purchase deadly ammunition, they should have to come face-to-face with the seller,” said Lautenberg. “It’s one thing to buy a pair of shoes online, but it should take more than a click of the mouse to amass thousands of rounds of ammunition. This legislation is a simple common-sense step that would put safeguards in place to detect suspicious activity, helping to prevent the sale of ammunition to a terrorist or the next would-be mass murderer.” “The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act pulls ammunition sales out of the shadows and into the light, where criminals can’t hide and responsible dealers can act as a line of defense against the planning and stockpiling of a potential mass killer,” McCarthy said. “Law-abiding gun owners and shooters should support this legislation because it hinders criminals from abusing the Second Amendment right that our nation promises and could save innocent lives in the process.” New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg also today repeated his call for the nation’s presidential candidates to discuss gun safety measures. “If Washington doesn’t act, 48,000 Americans will be murdered with guns during the next president’s term,” said Bloomberg. “We should be having a great debate among two accomplished leaders and the people they’re asking to hire them. But we’re not getting leadership; we’re just getting condolences. If the presidential candidates won’t act, others will – including Senator Lautenberg and Congresswoman McCarthy, who time and again have shown their steadfast commitment to protecting American lives.” The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act works through four components: It requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer. It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians. It requires licensed ammunition dealers to maintain records of the sale of ammunition. It requires licensed ammunition dealers to report the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person within any five consecutive business days. The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act undoes the effects of a law advanced by the NRA in the 1980s, as explained by the Violence Policy Center’s Kristen Rand: “Online ammunition sales are the direct result of the NRA’s flagship bill of the 1980s, the McClure-Volkmer ‘Firearms Owners’ Protection Act.’ Prior to McClure-Volkmer, interstate ammunition sales by common carrier to private individuals were banned, records were maintained of ammunition sales, and ammunition sellers had to be licensed. In today’s internet age the effect of this change can now be measured in untold rounds of ammunition sold to the wrong buyers and all too many lives ended. We applaud the leadership of Senator Lautenberg and Representative McCarthy in working to reinstate this life-saving component of federal law.” Dan Gross, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said: “We as a nation know we are better than this. We are better than the massacres at Aurora, Co., Virginia Tech, Tucson, and the Long Island Railroad. We are better than 32 gun murders every day. In the past week, we have been inspired to see Americans come together on WeAreBetterThanThis.org to begin a real conversation about what we can do to prevent the tragedy of gun violence in our nation – a conversation that includes Democrats and Republicans, those who own guns and those who don’t; a conversation fundamentally respectful of the Second Amendment. The American people are demanding that our elected officials and presidential candidates join that conversation by proposing real solutions and plans to make us the better, safer nation that we all know we can be. Today we applaud Sen. Lautenberg and Rep. McCarthy for doing just that — for showing true leadership in this vitally important conversation — and for proposing this measure that will save lives.” Robyn Thomas, Executive Director of the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said: “As the tragedy in Aurora shows, our weak laws enable dangerous people to anonymously purchase unlimited quantities of ammunition online and in stores. We strongly support Rep. McCarthy and Sen. Lautenberg’s legislation, which will bring desperately needed oversight to this largely unregulated area. This legislation will provide law enforcement with critical tools to help keep our communities safe from gun violence.” New Yorkers Against Gun Violence Executive Director Jackie Hilly said: “The nation was shocked when 70 people were shot in Colorado and we must do what we can to help prevent these numbers of casualties in the future. Senator Lautenberg and Congresswoman McCarthy’s legislation is similar to provisions already in place in some places, like New York City, and Congress should consider it seriously.” Nicola Bocour, Project Director of Ceasefire NJ, said: “Ceasefire NJ is honored to stand with Senator Lautenberg and Congresswoman McCarthy in support of the ‘Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act.’ The proposed legislation will help to prevent shootings such as the tragedy in Aurora and save lives by regulating online ammunition sales so that an individual will no longer be able to accumulate an arsenal of ammunition in such a short period of time without detection. Congress must take action against these heinous acts of gun violence and pass the ‘Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act’; the reality is if we don’t demand real and meaningful change about guns and ammunition it is easy to predict more such tragedies.” Carole Stiller, President of the NJ Million Mom March, said: “Today a bill is being announced to stop online ammunition sales. This bill will in no way interfere with the Supreme Court’s interpretation that the Second Amendment allows people the right to own guns to protect themselves in their homes. So there should be NO opposition from the gun lobby… nor from the Congressmembers whom it routinely influences.” In addition to the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act, Lautenberg and McCarthy are also sponsors of legislation to strengthen the nation’s instant background check system and to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines such as the ones used in Aurora, Tucson, Virginia Tech, Columbine, the Long Island Railroad in 1993, last year’s killing spree in Norway and numerous other mass shootings in recent history. Law enforcement officials and advocates agree that the high capacity of the magazines used in these shootings are what enable the high number of casualties in these incidents. In many of these cases, the shooting stopped or slowed down when the assailant ran out of bullets or experienced equipment failure. Read more: http://njtoday.net/2012/07/30/lautenberg-to-sponsor-bill-restricting-online-ammunition-sales/#ixzz228320bCT Tell everyone to get New Jersey News from WWW.NJTODAY.NET

Looks like a clean shoot. Good for him, refusing to be a victim.

Spotted in the plaza across from the High School around 2:00pm Today. Nice to see some pro-gun locals.

I have an r1 and it works wonderfully. Never any jams etc. I have have 750rds through it though.

This is 9mm I assume?

Rob pincus has two they lend out to people for classes to evaluate. He spoke highly of them.

I'm ready for some 1911 love next time. I'm bringing my friend with his Kimber to. I'll be just to bring a back up gun just in case... Lol

I had fun at the match even though I only shot half of it. (had to sleep before work) There were over 30 people there, the start time seems great because you get out that much earlier.

Who: Chris Fry @ MDTS Training What: Combative Shotgun 1+ 2. 0830-1700 Where: Buckeye Gun Club, Barneget, NJ. Ammo: I used 250+ rds of Birdshot, 15 rds Buck, and 20 slugs. 30rds Pistol. I used my Remington 870 18" cylinder bore XS Big Dot front sight 4 rd side saddle (It broke off during the buckshot segment) +2 extension Standard Synthetic hunter stock and forearm Rolly Polly Dump Pouch to load from. Class had a total of 13 students. This was my first time taking a Shotgun class with MDTS. I have taken numerous carbine and pistol classes with MDTS and various other trainers. I'll be the first to admit I realize the usefulness of the Shotgun but still hate it. It's slow to reload. Who else from the forum was there? I forgot to ask during class. I'll throw my full AAR up later tonight. But first some pictures. Bad a** Asian Gun slingers! We shot...A LOT.

That was my first thought...

Some people load 38 in a 357 because the recoil is so violent and unmanageable in a J Frame.

No. It's about NFA paperwork. (SBR, Full Auto, SBS, etc) We don't have civilian NFA in NJ

For guns and precious metals etc just make sure you have a homeowners rider for that stuff. It's not worth friggin around when someone has a gun to your head...

The reality is that most people just bypassed the CLEO signature through other legal means. Guess the boys want to make things easier for everyone.... I'm shocked.

It smells fishy on the LEO side. Sounds like a case of sick the FEDS on someone who the locals couldn't pinch. The ATFe has the WORST track record of any federal agency. Anything they do should be scrutinized by the public. For what reason can anyone come up with that the weapons would be seized but an arrest not made????

Ha!