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Some number between 0 and 3 (or more). Stephen Breyer turns 80 next month. (Scalia was 79.) (AFAIK, Breyer has no known health issues.)

Sotomayor is a diabetic, which not in and of itself unusual among the fat, aging US population. However, she has required emergency calls to 911 on occasion, and that part is a little unusual. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/paramedics-treat-sotomayor-at-her-home-and-clear-her-to-go-to-work/2018/01/19/697ddf76-fd4a-11e7-ad8c-ecbb62019393_story.html?utm_term=.a8f714ee30ce She's probably not "as fit as a fiddle". More "as fit as a Hillary Clinton". As a diabetic, it could be difficult for her to purchase disability insurance because of her higher risk.

Which new SC Justice will help with our gun laws ?? The ones that replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor.

While 10+ round magazines are now Dangerous Contraband in New Jersey, they are just machine parts in Pennsylvania (and most of the US) that any kid can buy at WalMart. As nice as the folks at Gunsitters are, their vault may be overkill for magazines -- a relative or friend's closet, or a safe deposit box should be okay, just so long as it's not in New Jersey and is legal in that place.

I think that the total area of the holes made with Browning 10s + 1911 10s will be larger than the total area of the holes made with Browning 13s and 1911 7s. By that metric, you'll be ahead! (sarcasm/off) I may be unusual, but I don't think that I've ever taken the 2 BHP 13s that came in the box to the range. The 10s are (or were) cheap and if dropping magazines on concrete were good for them, Browning wouldn't have felt the need to sell magazines with those Pachmayr magazine bumpers. I'm not planning on selling anything, but I will send things off to live in America, until I can join them.

Still less than the street price that Bloods on probation for murder pay in Trenton. https://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2014/08/12/inside-the-black-market-for-guns/#5f45ebcd181e

https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/06/democrats_defy_phil_murphy_pass_their_own_state_bu.html

Retired LEOs still have to pay the fee, don't they? Get the popcorn! And all this will stop the Bloods in Trenton from purchasing guns, how?

https://inpropriapersona.com/articles/unconstitutional-laws-still-on-books-cause-confusion-in-nj/ “Unconstitutional laws still on books cause confusion in NJ” By Kristopher A. Nelson in May 2007 300 words / 1 min. From AP/Newsday.com: Numerous state laws that have been struck down as unconstitutional are still on the books in New Jersey, a situation some experts say could be rectified if the laws were just removed. Others say it’s not that easy. Some of the laws are simply outdated, such as one that limits the amount of […] From AP/Newsday.com: Numerous state laws that have been struck down as unconstitutional are still on the books in New Jersey, a situation some experts say could be rectified if the laws were just removed. Others say it’s not that easy. Some of the laws are simply outdated, such as one that limits the amount of money county jails can spend to feed inmates to 50 cents per day. … Other laws have caused more controversy. Some high school students have been suspended for refusing to stand during the morning Pledge of Allegiance, according to Deborah Jacobs, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey. The suspensions would appear to be supported by a state law that requires all students “show full respect to the flag” by standing during the pledge even if they don’t recite it. But the law was ruled unconstitutional by a federal appeals court in 1978. This is quite typical in common-law countries, at least. Actually, it’s probably worse than it seems, since judge-made common-law also continues beyond its immediate use, and may be even less accessible to most people that legislative statutes. And, of course, multiply this by 50 states, a few territories, and the federal government, and you’ve got a really big mess!

Well, yeah. A lot of mass killers and politicians are psychopaths, and they mostly do harmful things. But not all people who look at things coldly and unemotionally are bad. I would hope that if I need a surgeon, it's not going to be one who transforms into a sobbing, hysterical quivering mess if something nasty is found. I'd hope for a surgeon who calmly identifies and fixes my problem. It's been a while since I read this book, but it's pretty good. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/

I do agree if you mean rifle magazines -- 15 rounds was an oddball limit that nobody else had. (Yes, Colorado has a 15 round limit now -- except it really doesn't, because it grandfathered old magazines.) However, for pistol magazines I'd prefer to keep the magazines that came in the box with the pistols. My daughter lives in America and she'll just be getting the magazines before she inherits the pistols. If she ever sells them, they will be worth more with the original magazines, original tools, original box and original manuals than without.

I'd be surprised it they wouldn't do the same thing here. So, what happened at the June 11 hearing?

I must have misread what you wrote. Sorry.

Only neutered/blocked 15 round pistol mags and blocked 15 round AR mags should be affected. >10 round pistol magazines have been around since at least 1935 (Browning HP -- possibly the most widely used military sidearm in the world. The "standard" capacity is 13 rounds.)

I've had 10-round magazines for most everything because they were cheap after the Clinton AWB expired and if I'm going to drop a magazine on a concrete pad at the range, I'd prefer to ruin a cheap magazine. I've heard a rule-of-thumb is to have at least 10 magazines and at least 1 replacement recoil spring for every firearm that you actually use (collector items excluded).

The 1966 NJ Sills Act followed the 1965 Watts riots. The goal was to keep guns out of the hands of urban minorities. It was Politically Incorrect to say that, even in 1966, but that was the goal. Unfortunately, the law was turned around precisely 180 degrees and aimed at suburban and rural gun owners who had very small rates of gun crime, even in 1966. (It didn't keep any guns out of the hands of urban minorities, either. ) In the 2 years between the 1966 Sills Act and the 1968 GCA, Pennsylvania gun stores were widely advertising to New Jersey residents who had "missed" their opportunity. In 2018 my guess is that it's probably a lot easier for a NJ urban gangster to establish legal residency in Pennsylvania or Delaware, obtain legal ID and buy all the guns he wants than to go through the NJ FPID and PPP process. And he'd still be restricted by NJ's one-gun-a-month. What do you think he will do? (I'm assuming that the average gangster's IQ is higher than the average NJ state legislator's.) Politicians will never undo stupid and ineffective laws that they pass -- which is why I think that the only way that this is going to be overturned is in the Federal courts. Good read on Sills: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/when-did-new-jersey-become-so-anti-gun-the-background.636782/

I can't see it makes any sense for a retired LEO to be exempt but an active LEO not exempt. Also from Attorney Nappen: The NJ legislature as a group seems to have very poor English comprehension skills. (Good for lawyers like Nappen, though!)

I just checked eBay and "Glock magazine" produced 8,479 results and "Walther magazine" 2,995. eBay only allows 10 round magazines or less. With New Jersey joining much larger states like California and New York I don't doubt that there may be spot shortages of 10 round magazines for certain models -- but since California and New York are several years ahead of us, overall the 10-round magazine supply problem should continue to improve. If you go the Magblock route it may be best to beat the rush by buying the blockers now, but not to mix up the epoxy until December, just in case there is a successful court injunction. (Also, today is June 15 and our estimated NJ taxes are due -- maybe we should be pushing for a magazine tax credit! Or that they add a $50 magazine buyback to their gun buybacks.)

This is interesting.

See Luke 22:36

When shipping, I've identified gun parts as "machine parts". (Which is true.) While eBay doesn't allow the sale of >10 round mags, I'm pretty sure that Gunbroker does.

Well, that's my plan. Plenty of safe space to the west and south of the Delaware River. Most relatives have already fled New Jersey. My wife's family have all left or died. She's the lone straggler. And plenty of 10 round magazines around from the 1994-2004 Clinton AWB years. (eBay is a good source.)

I think MecGar makes the factory mags for Browning and Beretta (and many others). The Beretta magazine is a similar design. I'm wondering if epoxying the limiter to the spring base would comply with the law, and still allow the magazine to be partially disassembled to clean.

Since Murphy signed the bill today, shouldn't this all be moved from "pending"? I was going to link the news stories, but the virtue signaling flowed so thickly, that I worried that someone here who read the stories might destroy their computer. Murphy's running for President. And he has less of a chance than Christie, who had no chance. So -- now where do I send the donation to help support the lawsuits?