Bob2222

During one of the ammo panics or another, I tried buying from suppliers other than my usual online vendor and IIRC, all asked for a copy of my NJFPID. So they were intimidated. A magazine is just a tube and a spring but sellers seem pretty careful about selling to prohibited states. Expect plenty more exhibits of meaningless virtue signaling. Murphy thinks Moms-Against-Guns/Rich-Divorcees-With-WAY-Too-Much-Time-On-Their-Hands will make him the 46th President. I think he's highly delusional.

I think C-Products lanced the magazine bodies to limit the capacity to 15 rounds and so they could be taken apart for cleaning. Also, I have a couple of firearms with magazines that the magazine spring attaches to a spring base, and the spring and spring base are held in by the magazine base plate. Wondering if you just epoxied the Magblock limiter to the spring base if that would work and you would still be able to clean the magazine. http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits.html I agree that all of this is unconstitutional, and it will all eventually be overturned by the courts, but courts make glaciers look like sprinters by comparison and I'd rather not spend my golden years in prison waiting for it to happen. In the meantime, there is plenty of safe space to the west of the Delaware River. I'm not selling anything.

If you could somehow remove the part of the state about 10 miles to each side of the NJ Turnpike, it would be Texas without the barbecue.

ATF web page on Receiver Blanks. https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/receiver-blanks If he actually believes it and is not just doing what his boss told him to do, he needs to dust off his law school textbooks. Edit: Thinking about it -- bb guns and black powder are not considered firearms under Federal law, and online sellers don't sell >15 round (now >10) mags to NJ. The receiver blank business can't be a very high profit margin business and how many could they possibly have sold in New Jersey anyway? Not worth the legal cost to fight. Easier and cheaper to just say they won't send orders to New Jersey. Still think it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist here.

Gurbir Grewal is a Sikh. And Siks are always supposed to be armed.

Yup. 1911s, too, IIRC! But as a law abiding NJ citizen, there were other things that I thought I had more use for than another paperweight. Remember the presser in Asbury Park in April announcing (with great fanfare) the release of NJ firearm crime data that anyone could find on the internet in about a minute? https://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2018/04/06/murphy-signs-executive-order-show-new-jersey-gun-violence-data-public/493466002/ Everyone except Murphy and the little girl look like they are confused why they are there.

I did know that 80% receivers existed. I just don't remember seeing or hearing any ads for them here in the People's Republic. (Maybe they are advertised in some of that junk mail that shows up in my mailbox as an unwanted "benefit" of my NRA membership? It goes directly into the recycling bin unread so I really don't know.)

I don't think he is that stupid. My guess is that Moms-Against-Guns told Murphy to DO SOMETHING and so Murphy told Grewal to DO SOMETHING and so he did. He wrote a letter. I have never seen or heard an ad for 80% receivers. Has anyone? It's something that I never even thought I might want or need. (Until today.)

I'm betting zero, or a number very close to zero. But II also suspect that the number of 80% receivers used as paperweights here is more than zero. If you're a liberal politician, you must have recurring nightmares about the Storming of the Bastille. This stuff is meaningless but may help them sleep at night. I might consider adding a few to my box o' evil mags going to live in a "safe space" in America (away from NJ). If it gives them nightmares, it must be something that's good to have.

Delaware assault weapons ban fails to get past Senate committee -> https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-assault-weapons-ban-fails-to-get-past-senate-committee/ (That bill sounds more like a rant than an actual law, too.)

In the case of any firearm that you might or might not own, are Magblocks available? I was kinda surprised to see that they are available for everything that I might or might not own. http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits/pistols.html The downsides of the Magblock seem to be that the magazine would be impossible to take apart and clean once the floorplate is epoxied into place, and the magazine limiter could interfere with the operation of the follower. (The upside is that they cost $5.50-$6 or so.)

I'm no lawyer but I did need to did stay in a Holiday Inn more than once -- and it seems to me that for something to be a pistol grip you'd need to be able to grip it like a pistol. Or grip it at all without dropping the rifle. Then again, who knows? The meanings of words change. I know that when I was in grade school if I had answered the "What is marriage" question with the current definition, the nuns would have called my parents and expelled me. Below is what a Strike Industries product looks like on the rifle S&W is selling in California. (The cheap, $9 one.) I did check in on the NY board and more recent posts there report fin grips being sold by LGSs without problems. But still no major AR manufacturers seem to be selling NY compliant models.

There are tons of 10-round pistol mags around from the 1994-2004 Clinton AWB years. 80% of the country doesn't want the things, even if they came with the gun when it was brand new. eBay and GB are probably good sources for cheap 10-round pistol mags.

I think the system was designed to make it fairly easy to trace transactions from the manufacturer's SN back to a retail purchaser, but not to go the other way -- not for wholesale screening to generate a list of owners of, say, Evil Black Rifles. NICS was launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, so there are less than 20 years of records in the Federal system. Quality firearms should be expected to last more than 20 years. More than 100 years, really. They should last longer than the first buyer himself should last with a little maintenance. And gun oil and springs are pretty cheap. So probably only a fraction of the records of initial purchases of all the firearms in the US have been captured by NICS. According to the FBI, there were 11,004 firearm homicides in 2016, and probably only a small fraction where the firearm was left at the scene but the perp himself had absconded from the scene. But there must be millions of Evil Black Rifles in the US. So, yes, Big Brother (or Big Sister) could trace (almost) all Evil Black Rifles back to the original address of the retail purchaser -- but it wouldn't be easy, would cost a lot of money, and the list wouldn't be completely accurate. Magazines? No registrations, no paper trail and there must be hundreds of millions of standard capacity magazines all over the US.

https://articles.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/06/here_are_6_new_gun_control_measures_likely_soon_to.amp

If the storage unit is located in New Jersey agree that this would not seem to be a great place. However, New Jersey law doesn't apply to Pennsylvania or to Delaware. It there any Federal or NJ state database of long gun purchases? I didn't think that there was. I've purchased three long guns on one single occasion on one NICS background check.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1450472&highlight=Kirschenmann

It's not closed as far as entry. Your local PD couldn't know if you inherited a firearm and they couldn't know what you might have brought here if you moved here from another state. I have my doubts that any NJ state database could be accurate. People move, die and even sell guns occasionally. They're not -- IMO -- going house-to-house searching for >10 round magazines, but it will make it a whole lot harder for your lawyer to defend you against whatever lead them to find the >10 round magazine. How mush does a safe deposit box rent for in PA? $100/year? Cheaper than a lawyer. We're in the same boat as California and New York. Over 20% of the US population now. (It's getting to be a pretty big boat.)

Exactly! (I enjoy the guides that say the full-auto and CCW are legal in NJ! Technically true. However, the state doesn't follow its own laws and regulations. But unlike us mere citizen taxpayers, nobody can send the state to prison.)

Full auto IS 100% legal in many (if not most) US states in 2018! The NFA (National Firearms Act of 1934) levied a $200 tax (which was a lot of money at the time) on the manufacture or sale of machine guns and sawed-off shotguns. So $200, requires a background check, etc. and like anything that might be fun in New Jersey, don't even think about it here. Legal in PA, that state just across the river and visible from the NJ Capitol building in Trenton. What the Reagan era bill (Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 - FOPA) did was prohibit the sale of NEWLY MANUFACTURED fully-automatic firearms to the public (thereby making legally owned ones with paperwork an excellent investment).

Not sure I see the point to buying a magazine that will be a felony to own in the state in just 180 days. As I read it (and I'm no lawyer and I don''t need to stay in Holiday Inns any more), the bill seems to have re-legalized the tubular magazine 18 round pre-NJ AWB Marlin 60. (If so, and if the prices on GB don't go crazy, I plan to buy one, even if I never shoot it.) I plan to send off any magazines that are not NJ compliant to live in America. If the SC eventually overturns this futile and meaningless effort at virtue signaling, I'll move them home. If not, I'll join them to go live in America. Along with my checkbook and my NJ tax payments.

Call me a pessimist, but I don't think that an illegal magazine will help you to convince a jury of your innocence.

Did they just re-legalize the tubular magazine 18 round capacity old-style pre-1980s Marlin 60 -- the magazine capacity before New Jersey limited magazine capacity to 15, and forced Marlin to build only the 15-round "Jersey Marlin"? (If so, I'll be looking for one -- just "because"!) There are two 18 round Marlin 60s on GB right now. $150 and $175 with no bids.

Is there an accurate central register of all the locally-issued NJ FPIDs issued since 1966? Mine looks like it was pounded out on my dad's old manual typewriter -- 1966 technology. How many who have ever applied for FPIDs have since moved out of the state or are dead? (I'd guess about half.) When Sweeney tried to do away with the local FPID system and link the new FPID with driver's licenses (the big bill Christie vetoed), there seemed to be a lot of concern about a NJ central firearm owner registry.

New Jersey is generally well ahead of the curve with its gun control laws. It passed it's own laws years before the 1968 Federal GCA and the Clinton AWB, Only reason much of this wasn't signed into law years ago is that Chris Christie thought that he could become President. The state (and the majority of it's voters) are hopeless. The only salvation possible is if Trump replaces a few more SC justices and the state gov't goes into bankruptcy and receivership. (Murphy is going an excellent job in that respect!) Trump has a home in New Jersey and he isn't a New Jersey resident. Just like Florida, the weather in the state isn't bad 9 months of the year. Great beaches, pizza and tomatoes. Nice place to visit -- but not to be a taxpaying resident of.