Bob2222

I'm confused (it's not the first time) so there are no limits on bolt-action, lever-action and pump-action magazine sizes? The 1860 Henry that your great, great, great grandfather carried at Gettysburg and the Trench Mauser that your great grandfather brought back from WW1 are good? That's good. I'm waiting for Nappen's take on all this. I didn't see anything on his sites.

As I read the law and browsing through the California board, New Jersey appears to have actually out-done California. It doesn't look like California places limits on LA rifles with fixed magazine tubes. I browsed through the Henry Arms website, and was wondering why they didn't seem to sell any 10 round inner mag tubes. The New Jersey legislature -- making us the first state safe from Civil War reenactors and Cowboy Action Shooters!

Yes. But we hope our heirs just need to put the 1860 Henry in the trunk and drive over to America when they clean out the house.

PLEASE don't tell them! Simple arithmetic says it's next to impossible to repeal the 2nd. Much more likely to destroy the Democrat Party and modern liberalism by trying to repeal it. (Democrats and liberals have never understood arithmetic.) I hope and pray that they try this! It could work even better than Hillary's Plan to Lose the Deer Hunter States https://www.unz.com/isteve/hillarys-plan-to-lose-the-deer-hunter-states/ did in 2016.

But the passing down stops at you, unless your kids leave NJ. Mine already left New Jersey! (Florida: No state income tax and no death tax and no snow to shovel. 14 or 15 hour drive time. Just sayin'. )

So you need not give up the 1860 Henry Rifle that your great, great, great grandfather carried at Gettysburg -- but you do need to pay $50 and register it?

What I think we saw/heard was another episode of the reality TV show "TRUMP!" There was also a closed-door meeting. I kinda doubt that any bill that passes through Congress is going to restrict the age to own a long gun to 21, rather it's more likely to restrict the age to purchase a long gun to 21. This focus on legislating an age change is "feelgood" legislation. IMO the underlying problem behind most mass shootings is the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 and the deinstitutionalization (and normalization) of the severely mentally ill. But if raising the purchase age for long guns to 21 (in addition to handguns, tobacco and alcohol) makes the under 21s feel good, let them have it.

Feinstein was seated next to Trump. He had her eating out of his hand. Donald Trump is the first World Wrestling Entertainment Hall of Famer to become President. The story line was carefully choreographed. He is holding out hope to 84-year old Dianne Feinstein. Her last hope. But (fortunately) her hope will be dashed. The Democrats would filibuster anything with CCW reciprocity, even if it has everything else that they say that they want. Need 60 Senate seats to get CCW. (It IS possible.) Need at least one more SC Associate Justice (and probably two) to get rid of those stupid NJ gun laws. This is about November.

New Jersey IS one of the states that allows private ownership (with permission of appropriate authorities) but like many other things in this nanny state, getting permission is practically impossible so there are no more than a handful of legal machine guns in private hands. The same "bump stock" result can be obtained with a rubber band. See YouTube for examples. (But I think most range safety officers would throw you off if you tried it.) From what I saw, some of the rifles Stephen Paddock used were equipped with bipods. Not sure I understand the physics of how a bump stock could work with a bipod. Has BATF issued a report on Paddock's guns? I couldn't find one. I don't have more of a problem with banning commercial bump stocks than I have with banning cooking ammo in a microwave oven (plenty of examples of that on YouTube, too).

I think the Senate Democrats would certainly filibuster any bill that contained CCW reciprocity. If it even received 50 votes. They could then point to CCW as the reason for the filibuster. I think they will try to filibuster any bill that could pass the House because they prefer the issue to doing anything to fix the problem. If they filibuster a bill that seems to contain some reasonable measures, then they are the unreasonable ones.

Scott Adams (Dilbert) who (unlike me) predicted a Trump win in 2016, Tweeted "I already feel sorry for whoever he beats in 2020."

I agree that they have momentum, and are gaining even more momentum....

Looks like the Democrats are actually going to run on gun control in November! Just a quick glance at the bill. It's nothing but virtue signaling for November. The bill itself has absolutely no chance. Not in the House, not in the Senate, Trump would veto it, and in the absence of a President Trump, President Pence would veto it. Even if it did somehow get signed into law, it violates Heller, "those in common use for lawful purposes". I would not advise the Democrats to run on gun control for November. Nothing will get out the vote against them like this. Nothing.

I learned something today -- I didn't know the GCA of 1968 applied to handgun ammo! 21 has been the minimum age for handgun purchases (from a FFL) since 1968. The military draft age was 21 in WW1 and 21 prior to WW2 until it was reduced to 18 after Pearl Harbor. The draft age was 18 during the Vietnam war. However, the voting age remained 21, leading to the 26th Amendment that lowered the voting age to 18. The 18 to 21 age group has always been a gray zone for rights and privileges, and not consistent among states Trump doesn't sound like he's on board for raising the long gun purchase age now. He does still seem fixated on "bump stocks". I don't think he understands how they work, and he probably doesn't have any people close to him who understand how they work. (Not enough rednecks in the Trump White House!) It's possible to do the same thing with a rubber band. (And probably get thrown off the range by the safety officer.) See YouTube for demonstrations.

https://finance.zacks.com/pay-pennsylvania-tax-retired-pension-social-security-7987.html https://www.thebalance.com/best-states-for-retirees-3193239 Jus' sayin'. Pennsylvania's death tax is bad (New Jersey's is the worst), but that won't be my problem.

The last NJ Democrat governor who served two terms was Brendan Byrne (1974-1982). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_New_Jersey

15 rounds is kind of an oddball size -- most of my 15 round magazines have been blocked at 15, either by the original manufacturer or by a third party. Not sure why they couldn't go back to the original manufacturer or third party for modification again, but this may not be cost effective. A 10 round Magpul AR mag is $13.95 from Magpul. Occasionally less on Fleabay. IIRC nothing but 10 round magazines were available for purchase (new) during the AWB between 1994 and 2004. I plan to send any outlaw magazines that I might have to Texas. If sanity returns to this state before I leave the state or die, the magazines will be returned to me. (It's a remote possibility, but if Trump replaces 4 SC justices, who knows?)

My thought -- if he gives on bump stocks (plenty of other ways to waste ammo, just search through YouTube!) and pistol grip long guns prior to age 21, what will they give on? State CCW reciprocity? And if they won't give, who's being unreasonable and inflexible? Trump isn't an ideologue.

Trump Thinks He Could appoint Four Supreme Court Justices—In Just One Term: Report http://www.newsweek.com/trump-supreme-court-justices-appoint-686076

Scott Adams: Why Gun Control Can’t (ever) Be Solved in the USA http://blog.dilbert.com/2016/06/22/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa/

Taking a trip through the past — The 1990 NJ Assault Weapon Ban: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/18/nyregion/new-jersey-votes-the-strictest-law-in-the-nation-on-assault-weapons.html In New Jersey in 1990, we were pioneers. Clinton’s nationwide AWB followed in 1994 (and expired in 2004). We are fortunate that Chris Christie was able to kick this down the road and so we have a few years of experience and legal briefs by our cousins in 2 large states to draw on. There is now an abundance of legal precedence on both the state and local levels. Not only are we a few years behind, but we are a relatively small state and only have about 15% of the combined population of California and New York. On the Federal court level — where this is all heading, we are mainly going along for the ride this time. I joined both the California and New York firearm forums. There are more than a few ongoing discussions on the relevant subjects. 1. It is possible to build an AR with one (1) “evil feature”. Several large firearms manufacturers (with large engineering departments and large legal departments) do so. 2. It is possible to build an AR with zero (0) “evil features”. 3. The problem is not the number of "evil features." The problem is the number of evil people. The majority of our elected officials here are either incapable of understanding this, or refuse to admit it. Today is probably a great time to be an attorney specializing in firearms law! I’ve been an NRA member for years. I agree that it is an excellent idea to join. Stay safe!

Not yet, but eventually. The conservative justices seem to have been reluctant to take on another 2A case -- for now. My guess is that is because they think that Kennedy is at best a wild card. I'd feel more comfortable with 2 more conservative justices before they take on another 2A case. Since the AR outsells the #1 selling vehicle in the United States, the Ford F-Series, it's difficult to argue that it's not in common use. I think that's the way they will eventually rule. Eventually. In the meantime, can you find a friend in a 2A friendly state who will keep your naughty parts for you? The larger problem from my perspective is state spending and taxes. I would be happy to trade 5-round pistol magazines (if they were manufactured) for Florida's tax rates. Our lawyer splits his time between Florida and New Jersey -- and so does President Trump. It seems obvious why people do this. Where is this going? The last conservative New Jersey governor left in 1944. Since then, it's been a progressive downhill slide. If, over the next 4 years, just 100,000 more taxpayers leave the state, it should make a difference. As the state attracts more people who desire the services that it provides and repels more people who pay taxes, the state will eventually run out of money to tax and spend and will enter receivership. Then a court appointed panel of adults will make the spending decisions. I don't think Murphy can see this. One of the reasons may be that his Wall Street friends aren't really affected by it. Because of the peculiarities of New Jersey / New York tax treaties (or lack of tax treaties) they are paying taxes at the max New York income tax rate, and even New Jersey looks good in comparison. Not so for anyone else. Pennsylvania is one of 2 states that excludes all retirement income -- Social Security, IRA, 401K, pensions -- from the state income tax. Plus they are 2A friendly. Plus my daughter has already moved there. So that will probably be my choice.

As our governor was kind enough to point out, if I am not physically present in New Jersey for 183 days of the year, I am not a resident of the State of New Jersey. If I am not a resident of the State of New Jersey, I do not need to pay New Jersey income taxes. Since I work out of DC and spend more than half of my time working on a computer, it doesn't really matter if I'm working at my keyboard in New Jersey or in Pennsylvania. (Or in Australia, really.) Last time I visited the carwash (in Monmouth Co) three of the four cars in the back being detailed had PA plates. Daughter works and lives in PA but one of her co-workers commutes from Asbury Park. PA is just not that far away. Our lawyer/accountant spends 1/2 the year in Florida. (Better weather and taxes than PA, to be sure, but a longer drive.) I've told my wife my goal is not to die as a New Jersey resident. She's retired and PA doesn't tax pensions. The only way to kill the corrupt Jersey political system is to cut off its nourishment, which is money. I'm willing to tell the State of New Jersey, okay I'll comply with more of your stupid laws, but on tax day you are the ones who can get lost .

I'd miss the beaches, the tomatoes and the pizza. But I commuted to DC for 2 years and to Chicago for 5 years. I've done it before, so I think I could manage to stay out of the state for 183 days of the year.

I don't know how practical it is, but it looks like a .50 BMG pistol has been built. If a .50 BMG pistol exists, it would be difficult to prove that any other rifle caliber can't be fired from any pistol. Like many/most NJ statutes it's badly written, but I/we didn't write it (or even vote for the people who wrote it). Sorry. I was reading the NJ statute to try to determine if I can make a legal "U" turn when I go to the beach, and I can't figure that out by reading the NJ statute.