Jump to content

PeteF

Members
  • Content Count

    2,827
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2
  • Feedback

    100%

Posts posted by PeteF


  1. 11 hours ago, Sniper said:

    What would be beneficial is a antibody test, to see who already had it and has a possible immunity to it.

    And to get some actual numbers so the "Sky is falling crowd"  would get over the "death rate".

    More and more its looking like this thing has been around since November.  People got sick Doc:" No its not the flu, drink lots of fluid and rest".  And got better.  And some how the world went on without "social distancing" and quarantines.  Go figure.

     

    • Like 1
    • Agree 1

  2. 1 hour ago, fishnut said:

    The declaration, attributed to Emergency Management Coordinator Tommy Welsh, orders the closing to the public of all bars, restaurants, theaters, gyms and “non-essential places of business with occupancy greater than 25 persons,” effective 11:59 p.m. Monday.

    After that, bars and restaurants may not serve patrons on-premise, with food delivery and takeout only permitted. Alcoholic beverage sales by all license holders – including packaged goods liquor stores – must cease at that hour, the order states. [Clarification: Police Chief Darren McConnell says liquor stores will be permitted to sell alcohol, but will be limited to the 25-person occupancy that applies to retail stores.]

    From the link that your arguing about........... The restaurants are in fact open but just for takeout. That means they are open for business. Theres really no other way of looking at it. Are the owners going to lose money during this? Absolutely but they are open to serve takeout food. 

    Which is the same as closing them.  The owners can not pay to keep a staff on for the few numbers of call in orders. Additionally how many people are eating as there primary purpose at 8 pm.  Almost none people are out to eat and drink which is where the money is.  So tell me all about the legality of takeout bar service.

    The fact is the ordinance shuts them down.  Thinking anything else is the same as thinking NJ is a may issue carry state,  It is legally but in actuality it isn't.


  3. 1 hour ago, JackDaWack said:

    lol!! I posted the ordinance, sorry it contradicts you. I really cant help that... 

     

    I dont know what your perspective is here.. 

    I simply said restaurants are open for take out... and not closed... as if the discussion really had more to it than that.

     

    Lol.  You posted a link that first line says restaurants must close at 8 tonight, as proof that restaurants dont have to close.

    Yeah rocket scientist there.  You obviously have no idea how a restaurant or bar make money.  Hint it aint takeout.

    You think takeout is enough to keep the lights on?  Maybe in a McDonalds.  

     

    • Agree 1

  4. 17 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:

    High horse? 

    I stated a fact and you came barging in here like a know it all all opinionated...

    Give it a rest.

     

    I'm sure it really helps their bottom dollar telling people they are closed for business, what a nice guy you are denying them the little services they can perform... 

     

    Once again try and twist it.  You got a holier than thou attitude with someone that posted what he read. Then you state falsehood, and tried to defend it when your source even disagreed with you.   

    See my first post on the subject, see the quote from YOUR source that says they must cease operations?  I guess you should stop posting links that spread "rumors"

    And ps Im the guy going out to these restarants and bars supporting my local and not so local businesses so you can take that and shove it up your ass.

    • Like 1

  5. 16 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

    <200K cases *known* of a new virus which has ~double the infection rate of "normal" flu, with a ~2 week incubation period during which it is still communicable, which can be asymptomatic for ~50% of the infected, and for which testing procedures are still being developed.





     

    200k known cases.  How many 100s of thousand or millions of "i got better without any help".  So they have absolutely no idea, but are confident enough to predict 500000 deaths in the us when worldwide there are 7k after 5 months?  

     

    • Like 1

  6. 6 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:

    DOES THAT ORDINANCE SHUT DOWN RESTAURANTS? NO! 

    It put them on limited service... 

    If the kitchens are open and you can buy food... how is that "closed"?

     

    See I did read what i posted..... let's take our own advice because you clearly didn't read the actual ordinance at the bottom of the page. 

     

     

    Yes not being allowed to have patrons at your business is being closed.  You think a call in order or 6 equals a dining room filled with patrons are the same thing?  You think people go to a restaurant to just eat?  People go to socialize and not have to worry about prep or cleanup.  Would you like a appetizer?  Any desserts tonight?  Can I get you another drink?  Guess what all those do?  Cha ching.  Money in the register, that pays the bis

    So yeah, forcing the doors closed is shutting them down. 

    You can get off your high horse now.

    • Like 1
    • Agree 1

  7. 11 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

    5e62a449fee23d58c83a9e62?width=700&forma

    https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals

    Total Staffed Beds in All U.S. Hospitals
        
    924,107

    For the cheap seats:

    AHA guestimate on Coronoavirus hospital admissions:

    4.8 Million

    AHA reported total staffed hospital beds in all U.S. Hospitals:

    924,107

    So maybe, just maybe, it makes sense to slow down the rate of admissions as much as possible?

     

    So in the 5 months, that this virus has been known.  There are less than 200k cases in 7 BILLION people with ~7k dead.  But yet the stays you quote say there will be >25x the hospital admissions than total known cases in 330 million of the us alone? 

    Do you not see anything wrong with their guess?

     


  8. 1 minute ago, JHZR2 said:

    I started working at midnight to get ahead of network issues.  Worked till 4.  Did a telecon at work from 8-1245.  Now I get to do instruction for my kids, who diligently were attending to materials that their teacher provided to us this AM. 

    Not sure who is getting time off.  I’m not a fan of work from home.  Much of the private sector allows it - I have friends who have done it for years.  I’m not a fan and too much of what I do requires personal interaction.  

    My wife works in a school district as a special services provider. She has to keep up with that as well as manage our home activities and kids’ instruction.

    Quite some paid vacation... ant comment on union donors as I’m not one.

    So i have to do all the same things plus showering shaving, commuting, being 100% on company business while at work (No "sorry I'm taking a break to walk the dog",  "oh that new episode is on ill get to work afterwards")

    Yeah work at home is a vacation.


  9. 1 minute ago, DirtyDigz said:

    What's 20% of ~370 million?  Are you confident that the US healthcare system can provide medical care to that number in a relatively short window?

    Medical intervention runs from going to your regular doc and having him give you a good cough syrup, or tell you "yeah you have the flu, heres a letter for work, rest and drink lots of fluids".

    To hospitalizations, which will likely run in the ~100-200k.  And yes the medical system can handle that.  They do every year.

    • Agree 1

  10. 9 minutes ago, xXxplosive said:

    Hmmm......just wait another week or so....CNN is blowing this out of sight, hair on fire, screaming.....they completely SUCK those liberal bastids....omo.

    I'd love to see them charged for creating a public panic.   Like the "fire in a theater" isn't protected speech.


  11. 3 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said:

    AAR for grocery shopping in my local area. 
     

    Our local ACME market was...weird. 
    I expected there to be no TP or PT and I was right. 
    Bleach and disinfectant surface cleaners were gone. Lots of laundry detergent and fabric softener available. Funny. 

    There was a decent supply of beef in the meat case. Steaks, and roasts were in decent supply. 
    Other than frozen chicken wings and turkey breasts, no poultry was available. 
    Pork was also well picked over. A few racks of fresh ribs and dozens of frozen. 

    Fresh produce was pretty available. I took a quick glance at the frozen section, and they appear to be fairly well stocked too. 

    Milk was pretty bleak, but cheese, eggs, yogurt, and sour cream were plentiful. 
     

    Canned goods, pasta and jarred pasta sauce was in good supply. 
     

    Junk food was bountiful, as was soda. I don’t think there was any bottled water. 
     

    The store was crowded, and this particular store rarely is. Although we were very aware of our surroundings and vigilant, we were more in observational mode while we picked up a few things. 
    People had a strange look overall...not panicked, but worried....

    I think its all a matter of when the stores scheduled deliveries are.  Say a store has canned veggy deliveries on monday and thursday.  Panic buying clears out shelves monday at noon.  The store wont be getting a delivery until thursday.  


  12. 2 hours ago, JackDaWack said:

    Not true. 

    No where is telling restaurants to shut down.. worst case they are told take out only. 

     

    You cant just down food services completely.

     

    a quick search:

    https://www.redbankgreen.com/2020/03/red-bank-coronavirus-covid-19-state-of-emergency/

     

     

    From your link

    "Red Bank officials declared a “local state of emergency” Sunday night in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic, ordering bars, restaurants and other large facilities to cease operations at the end of the day Monday."

    Sounds like an order to close to me.

    • Like 1

  13. 1 hour ago, 1LtCAP said:

    and those are my points. they're hyping it as being more deadly than the normal flu......but if we find out that "X" number of people had it but didn't report it or test for it......i'm suspecting that it will turn out to be about the same as the flu

    We will never know.  If I were to get a cough and fever, I think ah nuts I got a cold or the flu.  I rest, drink a lot of water and get better.   Did I have the Corona virus?  No one will ever know.  So unless the come up with a test that identifies those that recovered, AND test everyone,  these numbers are just flat out guesses.

    And I tend to distrust sources whose funding is dictated by inflated numbers.

×
×
  • Create New...