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I use 12ga 2 3/4" Federal LE Low Recoil 9 Pellet 00 Buck. Stuff shoots real nice, and I feel I can trust Federal with my life as far as reliability.

This whole thing was a huge joke. They spent all that money and it was approved partially due to the ability to "rent it out" to other LE orgs and then... Nothing.... Typical gov't waste. Hope this works out for you guys!

If you don't like it then write to them and gently and politely demand an answer as to why. Tell them you can't support their bid for reelection if they stomp on the constitution like that.

You'd think we'd all learn to stay away from boats!

People are acting like this is the end of the world. Really? Get a grip....

The truth is this guy can't win no matter what he does. He said, straight up, he'd make hard choices because NJ requires it. I applaud that he's done just that even if I don't agree 100% with each and every cut. For everyone bitching about it, write to your representatives or CC himself and let them know what you want and how you think they should fix NJ. Otherwise, empty words.... Take part in the process or just resign yourself to being part of the problem.

Man it's so much "fun" to get that plastic buffer to stay in place....

Never had an issue with their .380 but that's the only caliber I use this ammo in. For all other PD rounds I stick with Remington Golden Saber.

Only in NJ... Jeesh....

I think it's very simple math. There's nothing wrong with expecting anyone in a public job to contribute to their retirement and medical costs at a level that is fair and comparable to similarly paid private jobs. "Back in the day" the pay scale was way lower so these perks were part of attracting talent. But it's more competitive now. There are no guarantees in life, nor in your career and people should stop expecting public vs private sector to be any different in this day and age. Frankly the entitlement attitude is very insulting to people who do decide to make it in the merit based private sector. Just like the scorn some private employees have for the public sector is insulting. People need to relax and be realistic. Yeah, I know, two impossible goals...

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Anyone hating is just doing so for reasons other than build quality. If you want an 870, buy one. If you want a good deal, get the Pardner.

That's not so good...

Fun to put "tactical toys" on too. Most 870 parts fit it well.

That's encouraging at least!

Just looking at some houses in an area that's serviced by the NJSP Somerville branch. Anyone deal with them for permits etc? Just wondering what I could be getting into, I hear some SP areas are great and others are horrible...

I bet that would send the AG into hysterics....

Damn man, glad you convinced me to get 2 tins plus some cardboards full of this stuff.... +1 to glennp!

Since the 22nd is my birthday I'm having a party with some friends. I won't have access to any firearms, just booze and a grill. Sounds like a great day to me.

It takes as long as your PD wants it to take. Or as long as you let them get away with it taking.... Unless you are in one of those good areas that has a PD that does its job in which case no more than a week.

You are still looking at it from an NJ perspective. PA has many parts that are not unfriendly to OC. Philly has always fought the rest of the state on the firearms laws and makes a habit of ignoring them. The state has had to pass additional laws to force compliance in fact. There is a rich history of ignoring citizens rights as according to the state of PA inside of Philadelphia. Hell they admitted they hadn't properly trained their officers to deal with this kind of situation. City of 1 million in a state with OC laws and they didn't review this little detail? Wow. Go team. Ken, I actually agree with you about this. I just stated that for anyone who's going to say "BUT THERE ARE SO MANY LAWS TO REMEMBER WHAAAAAAA". In this case, with PPD's history, it's unacceptable that they wouldn't know this type of very important law. It almost cost someone doing nothing illegal their life!

I don't think he was implying what you describe. Of course there are legit and reasonable cases where it's the duty of the officer to stop and question a citizen. Any real citizen would at least begrudgingly comply if it was truly legit. Where people get pissed off is when there is no legit reason and it's either a power trip or because there's total ignorance of the law from someone who is supposed to uphold it. Now in this case he should know the law. With all the trouble Philly has had on issues like this, shame on it's leadership for not doing a better job of making sure their officers are educated in the firearms laws of the state. However I think everyone needs to realize how it's probably impossible for any police officer to remember all the laws on the books, God himself probably couldn't do that anymore. But ignorance is not a pass, and as usual the Philly PD screwed up and now it's a big sh*t show. And remember, you can be supportive of LE and respect them, but that doesn't mean I would stick up for these bozo's. Just like in any other line of work the uninformed or untrained cops make the good ones look tarnished and that's just a damn shame.

I'm betting they still have not returned your call...

Oh I know. I just can't believe they are "allowed" to put that crap on the website! Also good luck getting a call back, they are notorious for ignoring voice mails.

Why would they have you put your school on there? You are NOT employed by them. That is just insanity.