Frank Jack Fiamingo

No, I am no longer associated with the NJ2AS other than as a member. Health and family had to take precedence, unfortunately. And thank you for understanding. I appreciate that. Frank

Sorry PK90, that was a complete misread on my part. I have deleted my previous comment. Part of the problem is that I don't know the ID's of all the people on NJGF and it has been a while since I was on. I do apologize for my previous comment and I hope you will accept my apology. Frank

Just so that there is no confusion - I haven't been on NJGF in quite a while which is why my profile and signature were outdated. I have since changed my profile to reflect my current situation. I have not been President of the NJ2AS since the beginning of 2015. Alexander Roubian is the current President and I have nothing but good wishes for the success of the NJ2AS. I have no vested interest in whether or not people join, rejoin or stand on the sidelines. If you are looking to work with an organization that has the potential to make a difference in NJ (if enough people get involved), the NJ2AS is a great choice. This is not because I said so, it is because *IF* you want it to be successful and are willing to put in the effort, you can *MAKE* it a great choice. Nothing happens by accident. It takes a great deal of work and commitment to effect change. However, it is possible. It has happened over and over again in states where human rights oriented individuals have gotten involved. Those people who didn't like the way I ran things are entitled to their opinion. I wasn't all that thrilled myself. However, very few people actually had any real knowledge of what the work entailed. Be that as it may, someone else is running the organization now, and I am sure that if you want the NJ2AS to be successful in restoring the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms in NJ, Alexander would appreciate your help. I remain active to the extent I am able. Frank

:-) He should be so lucky! :-)

Disagreements are bound to occur. Until you actually have the responsibility of running an organization like the NJ2AS, you can only guess at the amount of effort that goes into it. The leadership does its best to guide the organization towards completing its mission. That is first and foremost. All of our resources are expended with that mission in mind. Again, this is a non-paid, all-volunteer leadership team. No one is a professional organizer and no one claims to be. We do the best we can with the resources we *DO* have. The more people with talent who decide to get ACTIVELY involved in achieving our goals, the more likely it is that we will overcome the obstacles erected by the three branches of NJ government to suppress our RKBA. Unity is appreciated, but unity with activism is what is needed to get the job done. Let's all be honest. Many of you don't like the NRA, NAGR, SAF, ANJRPC, the NJ2AS and so on because you can't agree with 100% of what they do or how they operate. You name the 2A/RKBA organization of your choice, and I will find people who disagree with their policies. If that is the basis of your argument for NOT getting involved, than let's face it - you are simply looking for excuses instead of solutions. Hey, y'all can do what you want. I believe in individual Liberty and Responsibility. But you lose any sympathy I may have when *ALL* you do is complain. There are plenty of organizations to join. It doesn't have to be the NJ2AS, but only each of you know whether or not you are actively involved, or if you have thrown up your hands in disgust and given up. If that is where you *ARE* at, we don't want you anyway. There is enough negativity to go around already. The rest of you, please send a few bucks to the candidates of your choice ASAP. Especially Congressional and Senatorial candidates. The Senate especially is infested with anti-gun maggots. We need to find them alternative employment and replace them with those who understand the human right to Life, Liberty, Property and Prosperity. We have not seen that for WAY too many years. AND PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO VOTE! Thank for your ears, Frank

The NJ2AS is looking for individuals with the strength of character to actually contribute something of value to the mission of restoring the exercise of our right to keep and bear arms. Simply complaining about it (while it is certainly easier) will change nothing. Saying "I can't wait to get out of NJ" is simply an excuse for inaction. If everyone in this forum, the NJ2AS, ANJRPC, NJSFSC, the hunters and sportsmen and so on were willing to get involved or even to VOTE, we would have a very different state. How many of you will be responsible for Cory Booker continuing to represent NJ because you couldn't send $5 to Bell or be bothered to get out to vote in a few weeks? You want to fix a RAT HOLE - first get rid of the RATS!

Well, while Dan is using Excel to make pretty pictures, We will be doing what we always do. We will be developing additional campaigns to overcome the conspiracy between the three branches of NJ government to suppress our legitimate right to keep and bear arms to protect and defend our Lives, Liberty, Family and Property. Please keep in mind that the NJ2AS is currently the ONLY all-volunteer, grassroots, RKBA organizations in New Jersey.

Thank you, Bob

No one receives a salary.There are no paid employees. All expenditures go to pay suppliers such as printers, UPS, Postage, Paper and Office Supplies, etc. If we attend an out of state rally or conference (something that occurs infrequently), attendees are reimbursed for their room and board and expenses. Most of the expenditures are for meeting space rentals, promotional materials, legal fees (i.e. Operation Establish Compliance), and especially for campaigns like Billboards and the Shaneen Allen campaign. The NJ2AS keeps tight control of its financial information because frankly, we do not wish to share our strength with our enemies. I think that is an extremely prudent way of conducting an organization with a mission such as ours. There will always be individuals will cast aspersions and use innuendo in an attempt to cast doubt on a legitimate organization. Perhaps they are aligned with the other side, or perhaps they have a personal ax to grind. What you will always find in these situations in the lack of any factual information. How do I know that? Because there isn't any. The cost of membership in the NJ2AS is so low, and membership is completely voluntary. You aren't required to join in order to belong to a range or club. We do not require any particular level of involvement (although we *DO* encourage it) If a disgruntled individual happens to be under the misguided impression that this is not the organization to join, I encourage them not to become a member. For those who understand why we operate as we do, and who have been paying attention, We welcome you with open arms.

To answer Dan's question. A financial report is distributed to the leaders of the NJ2AS to review Quarterly. We also use a CPA to make sure that we are in compliance with all applicable state laws and that the funds are used to promote the mission of the NJ2AS as stated in our mission statement. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact our CPA at George D'aloia CPA, 2204 Morris Avenue, Suite 202, Union, NJ 07083 (908) 687-7503. Thank you, Frank Jack Fiamingo

For me, it is a simple decision. Booker will take us down the exact same road as Obama. The people of NJ cannot afford to have the failed mayor of Newark representing them in Washington. It is quite bad enough as it is. I personally believe that Jeff Bell can BEAT Booker *WITH* the support of gun owners. There comes a point where regardless of whether or not you agree with a candidate on all the issues, if they stand on the correct side of firearms ownership rights, you have to support them. I am asking *ALL* NJ gun-owner voters to examine their hearts and wallets and come up with a donation to help support Jeff's candidacy. He wants to be able to run a TV add and needs our support to battle against the Booker money. "I AM A GUN OWNER, AND *I* VOTE"! https://bell2014.com/donate/

I just wanted to contribute a few words about what a being a "grassroots" organization like the NJ2AS means. It means that the organization is run on passion. No one gets paid. It is an all-volunteer society of amateurs doing their best to make the right decisions about how to fight those who conspire to suppress our right to keep and bear arms. No one in the Society claims to be a genius or to have all the answers. We don't. That is why the more members we have, the better the chance that a new member might have a skill that will make a difference. By definition, grassroots is "of the people". This is not an excuse, this is something to be proud of, and we are. Where there are people, there will always be differences. We try to overcome our differences and move forward. I think we have done a reasonable job for a bunch of amateurs. Hey, thanks for listening. Frank

Please do! If I can make a suggestion, come with the idea of contributing your ideas. The thing that will help make the NJ2AS work even better is an infusion of new ideas from people who are passionate about their rights. We welcome everyone and how you will bring your ideas with you. The NJ2AS is an all-volunteer organization. No one gets paid for their participation, so every dime goes back into moving the mission forward. Of course, along with this approach comes the reality that we are all amateurs trying the best we can to have an impact. Thos of you who happen to be particularly politicallly asutute can be a HUGE help as can those who have good organizational skills or other talents. In any event, we look forward to meeting you. The Dec 3 mweeting should be a good meeting to attend since we plan to quickly review our progress so far, discuss our goals for the future and encourgae an interactive discussion of how to approach the most pressing issues including these ridiculous delays we are all facing when applying for FIDs and P2Ps, and of course - CARRY!

I apologize for taking so long. The NJ2AS has grown so rapidly that it has been extremely difficult to participate in all our Facebook Groups, Twitter, our website and still have time to post here. I have been looking for an "APP" that would consolidate some of this so that I could somehow participate in all the venues that have an interest in RKBA. Nothing so far. If someone has a suggestion, please let me know. I realize there are some significant advantages to "forum" like environments over "Facebook", especially in being able to track and participate in different "threads". That is damn near IMPOSSIBLE on Facebook. The more people we have participating, the faster stuff gets pushed to the bottom. It would be GREAT if there were something that had the "reach" of Facebook and Twitter, but the thread tracking and search capabilities of a forum.

Yes, it is completely understood that we all want the option to protect and defend our lives, or families, our neighborhoods, our communities our state and our nation, if necessary. The problem we face is how can we overcome the unreasonable bias that has become DEEPLY embedded in the political culture of our state. You will not see me pretending to have the answer. That is why I am looking for your help. I am not begging for money, I would rather have a winning idea *ANY* day. The question is HOW do we remove these obstacles imposed by the three beranches of NJ government? Perhaps together we can come up with an approach that works for NJ. Anyone who thinks that the NJ2AS is not open to workable ideas has not been paying attention. So, come and participate. You don't have to be a member to attend our meetings. You just have to be sincerely interested in furthering the mission of removing the obstacles to our natural human right to keep and bear arms.