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SIGs have stainless milled slides and alloy frames. The principal exceptions are the older discontinued German's with the folded carbon steel slides and the all stainless. So, two dissimilar metals are rubbing together with the slide being the harder of the two materials. The alloy frames are hard anodized which creates a very hard and durable finish provided there are no burrs or flaws on the slide rails and the peice is properly lubed meaning wet with lots of grease. The hard annodizing is initially black but will change color to a shiny a yellow/shiny silver and then dull silver after many, many rounds. Dull silver means the anodizing has been compromised or close to compromised. Gradual wear of the anodizing is common and expected and most of this occurs in the first couple of hundred rounds. If there are no flaws in the slides SIGs are good for many thousands of rounds. Wearing of the anodizing in a spot or two along the frame is uaually not a problem. The machining of the slide and frame surfaces while very precise is not perfect, meaning, the two surfaces are not perfectly flat and need to mate. But this is usually over in the first couple of 100 rounds. I have never seen a SIG without frame wear of some sort. And new unfired SIGs may have some initail wear marks from test firing. It is important to check the slide of every new SIG or any similar pistol for defects or burrs which can be carefully be removed when found. The older German made SIGs with the rolled carbon steel slides had fewer issues of this type which is one reason these are very desireable. The slides on these is also a tad lighter in weight. Also, slide to frame wear is not an issue on the all stainless SIGs. The SIG FORUM has volumes of information on this topic.

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For Sale is my beautiful Browning Hi Power Classic "T" Series 9mm semiauto pistol made circa 1967. It is in excellent condition. Decription, Features, Inclusions; Browning High Power "T" Series 9mm pistol - approximately 45 years old Made & assembled in Belgium forged frame - current models have the larger cast frame open iron military sights original bluing VZ black slim grips and original wood grips with red backs 2-13 round mags and 2-10 round factory "mousetrap" mags original black zippered pouch with red velvet lining and gold logo mag safety disconnect removed Condition, History: Purchased privately approximately 2 years ago. Seller was at least the second owner. Mechanically excellent. 465 rounds through it according to my range log but not fired in over a year. It has functioned flawlessly and reliability. Have no knowledge of prevoius use other than it appears to be modest considering its' performance and condition. No rust, corrosion or piting. Bluing is original and a beautiful deep blue - almost black. There is a fine innocuous scratch above the slide stop. It could have been in the frame before bluing as the bluing appears intact here. There are also 2 small nicks on the trigger guard that have been repaired, They are impossible to see in photos and hard to find. The pouch is excellent - no rips,tears or cracks. The zipper functions. Payment: $775 FTF plus $35 shipping if necessary. The first "I'll Take it" posted on the forum buys it and will trump any on going negotiations . I will make every effort to be fair if there is multiple interest. Payment in cash, USPS MO, bank check or personal check (shipped only). Personal check will delay shipping. Payment expected within 7 dyas if item is to be shipped. Otherwise I reserve right to cancel the deal. Papers must be in order. For FTF will need Permit To Purchase, FID, NJ Drivers Liscense. If shipped it must go from my FFL to your FFL. It will be necessary for your FFL to fax a copy of licence to my FFL. For FTF, I will meet buyer at any reasonable location at my disgression. You can contact me by leaving a message on the forum, BY PM or at [email protected]

I have no experience with S&W 1911s but do own several STIs. They are very, very nice. One is the STI Sentry 9mm which is essentially a Trojan with a forged frame and a few bells and whistles. The Trojan has a cast frame. The slide to frame fit on my Sentry is very, very tight, smooth and easy to shoot. Impressed with the fit and finish. Far more accurate than I am. Also have a Ranger 9mm which is essentailly a Trojan in Commander size - full size fram but 4.15" slide as compared to the Trojan's 5.0" slide. Same positive apply to it as mentioned for the Sentry. FWIW, my last STI is a lawman45 ACP.

The Browning Hi Power is a good choice although a double stack. Has great ergonomics and is good for small hands expecially with grips like the VZ Slims. There is/was no single stack P226. It has always been double stack and the grip is not for small hands IMHO. There was a German P220 9mm but it has not been made in a long time. Thw Sig P239 is a single stack 9mm and a good choice. Same for the p228, p225, P6 although these are no longer made. In 45 ACP the Sig P245 works but can be hard to find. All are all metal pistols. My choice would be the HP. Very, very reliable.

My applications for permits to purchase were taking up to 10-12 weeks. Then someting happened. My last two applications - four permits requested - were processed in 21 and 10 days respectively. Hard to complain about that. On the 10 day turnaround I was on vacation when I received notice that they were ready and could not pick-up until I returned 2-1/2 weeks later.

NJ law regulating the purchase/sale of handguns allows the individual applying for handgun permits to apply for any number of permits. The number is inserted in the upper right hand corner of the form. All of those permits should be issued at the same time, have the same efffective date and expiration date. It is up to you to follow the law limiting your purchaces to one handgun every 30 days. And, when you go to your FFL to execute the transfer for a new purchase you will be required to sign and acknowledge that you have not purchased a handgun in the prior 30 days. Your local PD is either ignorant of the law or intentionally violating the law.

STI has big rollmarks. They do not bother me as much as the big wide grip serations milled into the front and rear of the slide. Too big, too wide for me and don't like 'em up front. But I can tolerate the rollmarks. As you noted it is a prefernce.

Smith & Wesson 686 with 4" or 6" barrel. Handles .357 mag/.38 special/.38 +p. Both 6 and 7 shot models available. and, or Browning HP 9mm. NJ legal 13 round capacity. As an added bonus both are from steel.

Yep, they have big roll marks. But, theses things are made in Texas and Texas = big. On the Ranger II the opposite side is the outline of the State of Texas. Not bad.

This is a Ranger II. As stated above I got a 9mm. it has Heine night sights.

I have an STI Ranger II 1911 on order and expect delivery in late July. It is a single stack commander sized 1911 in either 9mm or 45 ACP. I ordered the 9mm rom Brazos Custom. The cost is about $1000.

Anyone have any experience with extending a Hand Gun Permit To Purchase beyond its' initial 90 days period. I know a permit can be extended for an additional 90 days. Anyone know the process and the time it will take to acccomplish this. Just another wonderful problem we have to deal with in this fascist state as our weenie pols try to elimiante our constitutional rights through regulation.

Browning Hi Power, a 75 year old design, is the most ergonomic, compact, reliable, 9mm out there. They are high quality beautiful pistols. An anniversary edition can be picked up at CDNN for $699. Only negative is the trigger which can be heavy but can be fixed.

There have been some great deals out there fro used and LNIB P220s. Try the Sig Forum. Just saw a LNIB P220ST sell for $650 shipped. That nearly killed me because I was selling my LNIB P220ST at same time. The ST sells new for $889. I believe there are others for sale. You will likely have to pay for shipping but the Seller should be able to arrange that for as little as $25. Good luck

Assume we are talking about semi-autos here. With these the frame to rail surface is the most critical and needs the most attention. Here is my $0.10 FWIW. Steel frame and steel slide pistols are the most forgiving, meaning, the most durable. I use a lite grease, specifically, Lubriplate NLG, an alimunum based food processing. Very highly thought of as a firearm lubricant. Some guys prefer a high quality oil which I believe will also do the jib. Lubriplate NLG is available from the Lubriplate On-Line Store in 14 oz, cans. Also, sold on-line under the name LubriKit. Very nice stuff. Staniless frame and stainless slide pistols are less forgiving. Stainlees on stainless can gall (an ugly form of chippig)in short order if it allowed to run dry for even a short time. Nasty! I would use nothing but a top quailty synthetic grease here. Alloy frame and stainless slide pistols are even less forgiving. All Sig Sauer pistols made today have this configuration. Imperative here to use a good grease that stays put. Slide Glide is a popular but I prefer the Lubriplate product. There are a bunch of other good gun greases and automotive grease such as Mobil 1 synthetic grease will probably work. I am not a fan of TW 25B. It ssems to be watery. I remove the grease from my pistols after each range tripm and relube. Gun lube is a very popular topic on every gun forum. Lots of info out there. Do a search for "Grant Cunningham" and read his Lubrication 101.

The Browning Hi Power has not undergone significant changes in the last 20-30 years. TH HP has been made continuously by Fabrique National, Herstal, Belgium since 1935. In the early 80s HP assembly was moved to Portugal. As far as i know there has never been a quality issue associated with the switch. Any HP made since the early 80s will be a Mark III, the latest version. It has remained virtually unchanged. Various model names have been assigned such as Vigilant, Sport, Capitan, Practical and Standard. There have been Mark IIIs with blued, chrome, black epoxy, and two-tone finishes and a variety of sights. Regardless, all are Mark IIIs. They feel and look the same except for finish, grips, sights and caliber. Except for some early Mark IIIs, which had forged frames, most Mark IIIs have the stronger cast frame. The cast frame was changed to handle the hotter 40 S&W round when the 40 FN was added. The older Mark IIs, "C" and "T" series had forged frames. Most Mark IIIs have been made in Belgium and assembled in Portugal. HPs made in the last 20 years have the spur trigger. The ring trigger has not been used since the early 70s although after market ring triggers are available. All of the newer HPs and the Mark III have an external extractor. The Mark IIIs were made with fixed and adjustable. Browning adjustable sights never received high marks, however, Browning recently upgraded the adjustable sights on their newest models to sights made by LPA - a big improvement. The new fixed sights are also nice. Some of the older fixed sights are small and many change these. The grips on the HP, with a few exceptions, have been french walnut. Some think these are boxy and thick. Regardless, there are very nice aftermarket replacement grips from VZ, Navridrex and others that are reasonably priced. Stephen Camps's site "Hand Guns and Hi-Powers" is loaded with inforamtion on the HP. This site has recently been combined with "Hand Guns and Ammo". Mr. Camp is the recognized HP authority. I have 3 HPs: 1968 "T" 9mm blued finish fixed sights, 2010 Mark III 9mm blued finish fixed sights, 1993 Mark III 9mm chrome finish adjustable sights. The most common changes to HPs by owners are: mag safety removal, trigger job, grips, sights

This Forum is Good Stuff! Great people always willing to help!

STI, loctaed in Georgetown, TX, makes a nice selection of singlr & double stack 1911s in 45 ASP, 9mm and 40 S&W. High marks for CS, reliabity and fit&finish. They are hard to see and touch. If I knew a local dealer I would be in my car today. Hopefully I would use good judgement and leave my $$$$ at home.

Hammer bite can mean several things. In one situation the end of the hammer can strike the top of the grip hand if the grip is too high. It is also possible for the hammer to pinch the hand between itself and the pistol hammer tang. I have small hands and jave minimal problems with hammer bite. Regardless, on my 1968 HP with a ringer hammer and my 1993 with the spur hammer, I do feel the hammer touch my grip hand every once in awhile. This doesn't bother me and the solution would be to change the hammer to the no bite version or to Bob the spur hammer. My third HP is at the smiths for a triggger job and I am using this opportunity to have the hammer changed. I am using this HP - a new one - to experiment with a few changes and then compare the results with the others.

The NJ handgun "Permit To Buy" is not required, but, I believe the inheritor must have or acquire within 90-180 days a NJ FID to possess that handgun. Otherwise, inheritor must legally dipose of the handgun. When obtaining the FID there is no requirement to disclose its purpose.

I have Browning HiPower (HP) and Sig Sauer Pistols. I will offer a breif and general comparison. Both are service weapons of high quality with a reputation for reliiability. Beyond that, there is little similarity. Compared to my Sig P226 (9mm) and P220 (4 ACP), the HiPower is more ergonomic - feels better in the hand - especially as respects the fatter double stack P226. It is approximately the same length as the P220 and P226 full sized classic Sigs but is noriceably more slim and narrow. The Sigs are taller by about half an inch and nearly all of this additional height is due to their big, bulky and boxy slide. This makes the Sigs seem top heavy by comparison. The HP, al all steel pistol, is about the same weight as the alloy frame P226 and P220. The all stainless are much heftier. I prefer an all steel, steel on steel semi-autos. I am not totally comfortable with the newer Sigs which use an alloy frame and a milled stainless slide. I prefer the grip on the HiPower. My smaller hands easily wrap around the HP grip, especially, if slim grips are installed. I use VZ slims. I can grip the Sigs but they are not nearly as comfortable. The HP grip is a tad smaller than the Sig P239, a mauch smaller single stack pistol. The HPs are SA wheras the SIGs are DA/SA. I prefer SA. The triggers on both of my HPs are stock and very acceptable. The mag disconnect safety has been removed on both. My older "T" series has a very nice light and crisp trigger. And my newer MarkIII trigger was pretty decent out of the box now that the mag safety disconnect is gone. The triggers on my HPs are as good as or bettter than my Sigs. Both are fine for me. The Sigs and HPs are both easy to field strip, service and modify. The HP is very pretty classic pistol. The Sigas are ugly but it is a "pretty" functional ugly. I like them both. It is dangerous to go to a gun store and handle a Browning HP. Dangerous because you will be imprssed and want one. All of the above is just my opinion and about what I like. I am no expert.

Real nice gun photos. Looks like sheets - meaning your bed - was used as a backgound. Good idea and results. Like it. Nice looking piece. Please post range report. BTW, got my last permits in 30 days. I feel blessed.

Awesome. Never refinish it! With the history it is more valuable to you and anyone else without any changes. It has character and memories. Wipe it down with a silicon cloth and treasure it.

Two issues important to hand gun selection are reliability and feel. Reliability: It must be able to function over a long period of time while using a wide variety of ammunition. Nearly all Sigs, expecially the P Series, pass this test. Those that do not can usually be adjusted or repaired. Feel: Comfort is very important. IMO the major factor here is grip size. And the latter is a function of whether the design is single or double stack. Single stack designs are much narrower. The P226,P229 and P228 are double stack designs. The P220, P245, P239, P239 and P225 are single stack designs. Interesting, while the P220 fires the larger 45 ACP round it is easier to grip that a P226. Folks with small hands may prefer single stack deigns. Adding smaller stocks (or grips) may make a double stack design moe comfortable.