Fawkesguy

I agree. But I don't think that's the case.

FOID and purchase permits are blatantly unconstitutional, but I don't know if a lawsuit has been filed to challenge them.

LOL, exactly.

I live in NJ and will abide by NJ law. You are free to ignore the entirety of NJ 2C:58, and simply follow the plain text of the 2nd Amendment. Again, you can do whatever you want.

It's the law. Maybe it'll be struck down, but I seriously doubt it. Certainly not by 1 October. You do whatever you want. I will be in compliance with the law.

Shot the current qualification today at TTC. 47/50. Maybe someday it'll be struck down, but at least I know I'm now covered. Unless/until they move the goalposts again...........

About a week ago. https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/can-you-pump-your-own-gas-in-new-jersey-oregon-gas-pumping-law/

I don't know if anyone is "panicking", but 1 October is 66 days from today. Personally, I think it's foolish to wait (and hope) for relief from the courts.

No idea, but I'm not waiting around to find out. I'm taking my "re-qualification" on August 12th.

I assume Bumb will issue a PI, but what I'm hoping for is a miracle when it is immediately appealed to the 3rd Circuit. They will almost certainly issue a stay.

Oh snap! Never been so glad to be proven wrong!

No. Of course. :-)

Hopefully.

Looks like online applications/renewals for carry permits has gone live: https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/ConcealedCarry/

Practically every section of NJ's firearms laws are in violation of the 2A. I'd love to see the state try to provide "historical analogs" that existed at the time of the founding or of incorporation for all existing NJ gun laws.

Well, sure. Just like all of NJ's gun laws. We need to beg the state for permission to even purchase a firearm. That's why such a small percentage of people in this state own firearms. It is absolutely by design.

"Interim" requirements/forms have been posted: https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/PTC_use_of_force_and_Qual.pdf https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001Kl9N542raXHZSANWgcHyTX7r_Sl8m7VIIv4BuGpswLLbqAFdwgQq_EvOuREsaK8JKSTF-BftfcQmSPPIZbkVftnl1BQJHB5iKphYzvwNPrNAh4LAup2nIu_psEAVmHT4OC-p4DaUH5cDQ4FJgtmyHW_V2b_7bMQ2sr6rrNhDiWG3jTmWJTYqvEO7RxQZ7CD4emfjxtJhQQJsDMOg4t1JmA==&c=caJZhwep3B2prlHMzA28XY02-iROcOpG8w4A7-f52R7ixuNTXk_iuQ==&ch=vQwrHBFWAtcaqHAqX8_8QL35va2yV4FbcfSX1w5ohiCP7vwRoep9eA== https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/sp-182_PTC_Safe_Handling_and_Proficiency_Certification.pdf https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/sp-182a_PTC_Additional_Handguns_Intended_to_be_Carried.pdf

I have a costco membership. I'll continue to shop there, unless they decide to install metal detectors. Otherwise, I'll just keep my concealed firearm concealed.

Yep. Every day that goes by without them published means less time for us to comply.

Yep, never suggested otherwise. I'm totally in the "fringe" group.

Ugh........yeah.

Oh yeah. Pretty much all of NJ's gun laws are unconstitutional. Hell, we need to seek the state's permission to even purchase a handgun. Everything from FPID's on down needs to go. But I'm not holding my breath.

Can a small number of votes make a big difference? Yes. Are NJ gun owners any sort of unified, effective voting bloc? No. We are a fringe group in this state.

Agreed. The NJ Executive branch, Legislative branch, and a large majority of the population are totally against fully recognizing the 2nd Amendment. Gun owners are a tiny minority in NJ and carry no political weight. Everything we've gained over the last year hangs by a thread, and the tidal wave of a hostile President, a complicit media, and a rapidly changing electorate trying to sweep those gains away is held back by only a handful of individuals on the Supreme Court. Honestly, it's terrifying. Will we have wins in the courts over the next few months and maybe a few years? I think so, but that is only because we got lucky with President Trump's Supreme Court nominations. It was an anomaly, and won't hold over the long-term. Not with the way this country is headed.

Surprise, surprise.... https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1671274834276302851?t=77NgVSLos1hSYyi0mnaVQQ&s=19