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Oh alright, its actually pretty easy then. Hmm, interesting. I get what your saying but I am confused how it could be free floating if it attaches to the exiting hardware like a drop in. Ill definitely look more into it. Thanks for the info guys!

So these drop in models work with the delta ring as well, or do you need to purchase the barrel nut and remove the delta ring? Actually on second look I can see the Delta ring in the pictures so how exactly do these count as free float? Aren't they pretty much just drop in rails?

Is there aby benefit to freefloating vs drop-in or vice versa?

How lightweight are these omega rails?

I just finished my first AR build and I want to upgrade from my MOE handguards to a free floating rail. I watched a few vids on youtube and they all show that you can slide the front sight and delta ring off the barrel but the first step is removing the brake. Can I still switch to a free floating rail and if so does it require that I cut off the front sight and delta ring? I am just trying to figure out what to expect.

Honestly, I think this thread has actuall made me feel better after seeing what se of you guys spent. Granted I havent purchased an optic but ill ignore that detail when/if I decide to tell my wife haha

I just ordered some Seal1 from amazon so Ill let you guys know how I like that once i get to try it out. I know with the kids in the house and the fact that I don't have a well ventilated area aka garage to play with my chemical cleaners the whole froglube/seal1 idea of being safe to touch/breath etc is appealing to me.

Ok so I exercised some self control and ripped up the permit, one of the hardest things I ere had to do but now I can stop obsessing over it lol.

Hmm... very interesting indeed. I guess it doesnt seem logical but hey I googled it and the info is out there. So I guess as long as you know your ammo isnt steel core you should be fine.

While that may be true if your talking about hitting beams and the such but if your missing that material the slower bullet with more surface area just seems like the safer option imo. I might not have the scientific evidence to support it but it just doesn't seem feasible that if I was to miss my target and send a piece of lead hurling towards my neighbors house that a rifle would be a safer option than a handgun caliber.

Yeah I guess my thing is every smith and ruger product ive bought so far I have no complaints about, so I just tend to trust the companies and the products the put out, I also like buying stuff tat is 100% american made if given the opportunity. Nothing against the other manufacturers its just im hard wired that way lol.

Even the 22 Im interested in selling is honestly an awesome gun but I just dont use it because Ive found that I really prefer recoil when shooting handguns for the fun aspect. Plus if I want to go plinking I would rather use the 10/22 takedown personally lol.

Lol I love rugers value in general. I never expected to have more rugers than anything else but I do anf I dont regret that either. They are reliable, rugged, the company has the best customer service around and the biggest seller to me is theyre made in the USA.

Lol yeah it counts Shawnmoore lol

Shoot,if your gonna pay 6k for it it better be ringing the plates at 1000 yards haha. Seriously though, if I am going to drop 6k on a toy its going to be a bike.

Okay then, what about the sr9c guys?

In all honesty, if I were to get a subcompact or something specifically for carry id prolly lean towards the lcrx or lcr 357 personally.

Well, I won't be needing to shoot further than 25 yard in HD and if were outside and somebody is shooting at me from over 25 yards out i am probably going to be outgunned anyway and should probably be more worried about getting the hell away than shooting back lol.

Plus the size of the slide isn't that much shorter than the full size to affect your velocity/sight radius to the point that you'll really notice right?

The muzzle energy of the 223 is almost 5x's as much as a 9mm and the velocity is almost 3x's as much, factor that in with the size of the round and the fact that most HD 9mm rounds will be hollow point and the expansion will slow them down upon impact its not even close lol. http://www.ballistics101.com/9mm.php http://www.ballistics101.com/223_remington.php

Oh and I also just don't think with how close my house is to the neighbors that Ill ever feel comfortable using a rifle for HD purposes.

Joe I just can't bring myself to rip the permit it seems sooooo against everything I stand for lol. I don't know, now I am thinking about selling the 22 again and keeping the m&p .. it is my first purchase and I am kind of attached to it haha I know I am nuts.

Your right, but what if I was looking at more of a jack of all trades option for range/ccw and possible HD? Im not really interested in a subcompact since I wont carry enough to justify it.

Oh and the reason it hurts so much is the simple fact that it took me 7+ months to get my handd on these freaking permits lol.

Your right but basically its the fact that I spent way too much on my AR build and really am telling myself I cant afford to buy another handgun right now. The problem is that I have a permit sitting in my safe now waiting on OGAM lol. So what I am doing is justifying the use of my permit by saying if I sell the FS I wont be paying as much lol. Actually, maybe ill keep the full size and sell the sp101 22lr since I have barely used that since I boughtvmy 10/22 lol.