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I bought some .Remington 9mm and Hornday critdef from Midway a few weeks ago. Just had to provide a copy of my FID and it arrived in a large brown truck a few days later.

See this is the problem I would have with the detective. If they want referrals who know the referrent better than mere acquaintance, thene the form should state that--a person you know socially, a lifelong friend, a person you would trust with your kids, whatever. The form merely says "presently acquainted," and I would say that standard was met with the UPS driver. Great topic, and thanks for the background!

^^This Almost everyone on this forum complains about the intrusive govt requirements to buy and own firearms, but when you are asked to participate in the process you would deny the RIGHT to someone because they are merely an acquaitance? I mean isn't that what the referral says--presently acquainted? Aquaintance is not a very high standard (brought into social contact; made familiar: people acquainted through mutual friends. Dictionary.com). I think I would pretty much give a reference to anyone I know, and answer honestly. Mostly because I do not believe I have the right to judge someone else's constitutional right. If they are precluded due to a bright-line (e.g. a felon), then our NJ overlords should figure that out. Imagine if they did this before you could speak in public, or write a letter to the editor, op-ed, or publish a blog. I also will typically answer with "I do not know" to almost every question. The PD asks: "Does this person have a criminal record?" well I would think the govt agency posing the question should know that better than I could. Then they ask "What kind of person is he?" what the hell does that even mean? I usually just put "U.S. Citizen," but if I don't know that for sure, I will put "human" So I give the reference without really vouching for anything in particular, mostly because I don't think it is my place to do so. So far no one has had any problem with their permits. Now, if I did know the person was crazy, or a criminal, or that they planned to obtain the permit for criminal use, I would definitely put that down--I would not be dishonest. After all, the person is voluntarilly submits to the process. So far I have not been approached by such people for references.

Sorry, I forgot to indicate the sarcasm.

I reckon this is a good reason to CCW at home--if I always have my own gun with me I will not accidentally grab the wife's gun or have to stop and think about which gun to grab in response to home invasion.</sarcasm>

Like that is going to help? ;-)

Same here--my wife's took 137 days. Submitted February 1 and at the time they told her they were backed up due to the volume of applications and to expect 3+ month wait. The lady who I would speak with when I called about status was always pleasant and helpful--never had an attitude and always apologetic and explaining that they had so many applications to process. So could not really get angry toward her, and did not see any point in going up the chain--if it had gone out to 6 months I would probably try to elevate to the next couple of tiers.

Thing is there is specific language in the law that would prohibit driving around with HP or unloaded handguns--outside of the explicit exceptions that are carved out. I do not see anything explicit about a loaded magazine being construed as loaded gun. I am just saying it would be more of a stretch--IMHO it doesn't even qualify as a penumbra.

I think that was referring to the PA side of a trip from NJ to a PA range, where the person does not posses a CCW permit. Within NJ, NJ statute applies (N.J.S.2C:39-5 g): "shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." Nothing has to be locked (unless you put it in the trunk, then the trunk has to be locked). I do not see any statutiry reference to loaded magazines or separate containers, or locking containers for anything--maybe I missed something though. I have stated before that I believe a ziplock bag on the passenger seat would qualify as "closed and fastened case," although I would not practice or recommend this--no one else needs to know what you have your car, especially during a traffic stop! I just put my closed and fastened range bag, loaded magazines and all, in the trunk--or in a pannier if I am riding my bicycle.

Absolutely, but there is a huge continuum of possible scenarios between a small storm that knocks out power for a day and complete govt breakdown or apocalypse (e.g. large meteor strike, super-volcano, zombies). I think cash would be pretty useful in a shorter event of less than 2-4 weeks. Anyone looking at or using wind turbines or solar options? I was in Yuma last May and drove up to Castle Dome mine museum and ghost town (I highly recommend this place if you visit the Yuma area). It is run by a couple who live on-site and he was telling me they are completely off the grid--they really have no choice. But he has a small wind turbine and solar cells--it is sunny almost every day there. Claimed he produces/stores enough electricity for everything he needs. I kind of envied the guy as he is telling me he does not have to deal with code, permits etc and he is responsible for his own safety and survival. I think that is about as free as one can get. But I am not sure how difficult/practical it would be to do something like that here--I am sure I would have code and permit difficulties if I tried to erect a wind turbine.

I think a small supply of cash money would be useful in a short-term disaster--such as Sandy, but bigger. If you can't get cash out of an ATM due to electricity or because they are emptied out and can't be restocked I think a few hundred dollars would be useful in the short term--if it goes longer than a month, or if it looks like a permanent govt breakdown then the cash is going to be worth much much less. But it is still some nice, sturdy paper; surely you could use it for something ;-)

" a guy who shoots somebody who has anything other than a gun when they could have done something else like talk or fight with their fists" Yeah, no, just talk to him. Talk him down. Have a conversation so you can just de-escalate the situation. That is all you have to do. Maybe employ your pugilistic skills. I think that if someone is coming at you with a weapon, the burden is on you to select a weapon that is precisely matched to the weapon wielded by the perpetrator. Oh and if you are actually bigger and stronger than the perp, well you need to moderate your strength output as you wield your matched weapon so that your strength exactly matches that of the assailant. I think I will get a few sets of antique matched dueling pistols. Then if there is a home invasion I will just hand out pistols to everyone and either have one big mass duel, or maybe setup a single-elimination dueling playoff. Just to make sure everything is fair and level playing field for all. What a jackass!

Well, the city govt can make up any cockamamie crap they want--I have never, ever heard the term "brown bag" used to refer to anything other than a prepared lunch brought from home--but at least you can still CCW in the city of Seattle and the state of WA. Seriously, who thinks up this BS? Citizen, offensive?? Really? Some of these people really should get out abroad more and see how they are treated as a foreigner in just about every other country. Maybe they should do a city-sponsored CCW Lunch and Learn.

The Taurus had the best groupings of the guns I shot. M&P9c was about the same as the Taurus--I used the M&P9c as a proxy for the M&P Shield because they did not have the shield on the range. I did not get as good groupings with the Glock, but they were still pretty good, and as a "controlled" experiment, the Glock was the first gun I shot, so that probably affected the grouoings. To really evaluate I should go back and shoot them in a different order. My problem with the Taurus is that I have heard negative things about the "lifetime" warranty. So I have to do a little research on that and factor that in.

I looked at the PPS at Cabela's and--without having shot it--I really liked the feel and size. I thought it could hold the same number of rounds as the Shield. I haven't found anything in that size (i.e. slim single stack) that held more than 8 rounds. Price on the PPS is about $100-$150 more than the shield--is it really that much better than the S&W?

That cracked me up. If only the NJ gun buybacks would have the intellectual honesty to follow the law!

My condolences. As others have said, it does get easier over time. But you never really get over that completely (and you shouldn't). I lost my dad in 2004 to Alzheimer's and I think of him a lot--of the example he set for me and hope to live as he lived. All I can say is that I am sorry for your loss and I can understand how difficult it is. But nothing anyone can say will really help. It just takes time and you honor you Dad by how you live your life.

When I talk with people and they express astonishment that someone in the "news" is reported to have an "arsenal" of x thousand rounds, I try to educate them. How a sport shooter or enthusiast who shoots even one time a week is going to shoot 100 rounds per week minimum. That is over 5k rounds per year. And ammo does not really have a "sell by" date, so if you can get a large amount at a good price, is kind of makes sense to buy at least one or two years worth. And if we have on-and-off shortages (mostly on) which can last months to years, it makes sense to stock up a 2-3+ year supply--add several different calibers into the mix and pretty soon you have an arsenal and you are just trying to save a few dollars on your chosen sport. Usually when I explain that to people they seem to understand that owning 5k-20k rounds of ammo is not too extraordinary.

Absolutely. I always liked their logo--they take good care of your shipment. Kuroneko is one of the great things about Japan--cheap and easy way to transfer luggage (almost anything) rather than trying to carry on the shinkansen. But no firearms or knives over 5CM. First time I went there I was carrying my bags on shin and local trains--doable but not easy. Then I found I could ship to any hotel for about $20 and never carried my luggage since.

Not at all--although I am very afraid to buy at some of the high prices of late--especially 9mm! Anytime I can get a commodity that I use as a consumable at a good price, I will stock up. If I am afraid prices might go up or become volatile in the near future, I will buy even more. I would happilly buy 10s of thousands of rounds right now if I could get really great prices--at current prices I am just buying hundres to thousands of rounds at a time.

Yes I was wondering about that too. Someone mentioned the govt and then I mentioned 1776--maybe that did it?

What are your top choices? I kind of thought that about the Taurus--it shot pretty well but I think I would get better service and made in the USA with the M&P. It did shoot nice though.

Yes--I included the Bertta because I like my 92FS, but I honestly did not think it shot as well as the bigger M&P 9c or the slim Taurus PT709. So I will probably go with one of those. And I should add that I shot the Px4 first, so the grouping could have been me plus the fact that the range gun jammed on every shot and misfired at least once. The second Px4 (3.2") was better, but groupings still not as good as the M&P or Taurus.

I will take a look at the PPS also. That is why I like both the M&P Shield and the Taurus-slim, small and concealable.

I think it would be great for evaluating shot groupings and for dialing in your sights. Secure the gun in a holding frame and have it take several shots at pre-programmed intervals. Takes the human out of the loop so you can evaluate the hardware. I think it would also be applicable to alternate triggerring--if you could firmly hold the gun, out your finger on the trigger to "arm" and then tap your heel or something else (not involving your hand) to fire. Or even the use of an electronic microswitch instead of a mechanical trigger. Would remove the trigger pull from the equation.