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  1. On 3/11/2019 at 12:33 PM, Mrs. Peel said:

    Let's take that statistically rare case where a legal gun owner actually IS a threat... the police swoop in and take his guns away under a red flag law, sooo... now what? He can buy them illegally... make one.... buy a machete... rent a big, bone-crushing box truck... rig up some pipe bombs, etc. The gun was never the threat, but if the person was... well, now you've taken his property, humiliated him, saddled him with debt, and set him back out on the street...and now he's actually got a damned good reason to be angry and vengeful! How does this make any sense? I think these red flag laws are disastrous.

     

    I agree this would be a problem.  Interesting point.  


  2. Additionally, those writing that are not writing it for a majority of us on gun forums and up on current 2nd Amendment concerns.  They were writing it for those dabblers and Fudds that don't feel there is anything to worry about as no one is coming for their shotguns.  Those gun owners need a little rattling.  


  3. Again, what is the point?   Specific examples or in general.  ANY fear is unjust.  It is time to rile up the Fudds.  No, the sky isn't falling, but the golf ball sized hail stones are forming up in those clouds.  Do we want to wait until we are out in the middle of a field with no cover?  What is the point?  Are you trying to say that we gun owners and prominent 2nd Amendment voices are taking advantage of a restrictive turn of events?  Are you trying to say that I shouldn't get my heart rate up as I have to get rid of my legal property which I cannot even transport legally?   And, you brought up what happened in Boston.  The police were NOT in hot pursuit of a suspect.  They did NOT have a constitutional right to do what they did, and there seemed to be examples of excessiveness even in that excessiveness.  What happened in New Orleans shouldn't have happened either.  How reasonable and compromising should we be?    When these outspoken leaders of the First Freedom said this stuff did they cultivate mass hysteria in the gun community.  Was there rioting outside of gun shows?    i am exaggerating, but I am trying to make a point.  I do know that I lost property and have less options than I did around this time last year and i don't feel ANY safer in my own predicament or against thugs.  

     

    And are you saying that if my son bit a cookie into the shape of an AR, that I reasonably shouldn't have any fear that a SWAT Team might show up at my house in the middle of the night and pet my German Shepherd?  Or lets say a couple of State troopers.  And if I get stopped for a traffic offense while going to the range, I shouldn't have to worry that a peace offer won't be a little overzealous and underinformed and let someone else sort it all out.

    No disrespect, but I shouldn't need you or any other attorney to assist me with living my life and wondering if my Glock 19 that I legally purchase and use lawfully is on the up and up and compliant?.  Any reasonable gun owner in this State should have a reasonable fear always in the back of his mind that he or she could have problems stemming from an overzealous and tyrannical state, and as you point out we must know our rights and the law.  Even with that armor, there is still plenty of jeopardy, agendas, and little common sense.   The fudds need that fear.

    The climate could change.  What if there is another mass shooting?  Additionally, if all these laws are passed and they aren't enforced then why are they being passed.  For example, if I am a contributor to society and in good standing and reasonably have to worry that I could be incarcerated for having GAMO pellet gun with a silencer  built into the barrel and a LEO sees it on my bench because I was cleaning it when I got some chest pains and called 911, but a thug that shoots someone in the head point blank at a "church" function doesn't even get charged for gun crimes as he plea bargains it down... What can I plea bargain down? that yes, your honor, I am guilty of having a cardboard box that the hollow points were in?

    Are you trying to say that one doesn't cause attention to him or herself then all will be OK?     Are you saying that I would be OK with my non-compliant AR or m1 carbine if I accidentally took it to the range (by the way any ATF readers I don't own these)?   What if I lived in NJ and my landlord let the police in to check the border.   Are you saying that a cop would not go after me like what happened to Brian Aiken given that far-fetched scenario?   Oh, I get it, my chances of winning the lottery aren't that great, so I can go on living?

    If some prominent 2nd Amendment individual is a capitalist so be it.  I didn't pay $10 a head, but I hope a few liberal democrat gun owners did.

    THAT ATMOSPHERE is NOT UNREAL, but hopefully as you eloquently pointed out... that it is unlikely.


  4. What the Fudd!  Are gun owners acting illogically with their fears?

    I want to revisit.  I was hoping that others would comment about it and ponder what its purpose was, and in particular because others have agreed with it in followup comments.  Kudos to Regular Guy.    It is important because this is setting a dangerous precedent and free men and woman should not be in fear at all.  ALL of this fundamentally changes the relationship of the individual to his or her government and abuses can and will happen.  The pendulum is still swaying the wrong way as more and more naturalized citizens are made legally and illegally and the ones already here are being brainwashed and further conditioned to be neutered.  

    I am really not getting the gist of what you are saying unless you are trying to trump up business.   Yes, we should all know our rights which in NJ are not always followed and yes a good attorney can help enlighten us.  For example, we have a right to KEEP and BARE Arms.  Yet, in reality ALL firearms have been made defacto illegal in NJ, which is actually not lawful.  We have a right against unlawful searches and seizures unless someone drops a red flag?  How can one be OK with having rights when they are being taken away or interpreted by radical judges.  Honest law-abiding citizens are "reasonable" but what were you trying to say, having a little fear is OK?  How often do gun owners get a jury made up of actual gun owners?   If you only go to jail for 1 day for a mala prohibita that's OK as long as it isn't for 75 years?  Only a 10 thousand dollar legal fee is OK.   I still don't know what your "well-written" piece that others agree lock, stock and barrel  is about.  Are we being overrun by over-emotional firearms owners that are going to crack under the unjust pressure?    Are those bringing these happenings to the attentions of the masses doing something wrong or exaggerating?  Are people not savvy enough or or they unaware of their rights?    There have been countless examples in NJ of criminals not having the laws enforced (plea bargaining down, etc.) while law-abiding citizens are entrapped and/or prosecuted and made examples of.   

    Lets look at a hypothetical example, a citizen's rights get violated and she is harassed because her 12-year old playing Fortnight often mentions the word AR15 in school.  Or what about if you get in a disagreement with your liberal brother about where to have brunch for Easter and he calls your local police department and says he is afraid.   Or, maybe your husband has been working too much and so you decide to cheat and then get a divorce and your attorney decides to have a restraining order placed on him.  Hello?  

    If I want to get a coffee or go to the bathroom on my way to the range, or pickup a friend to go with me (it is safer to be at the range with others) then I don't want to be in fear.   For now I guess I will just hold it and hope the plumbing at the range is functioning.

    Slow on the draw?  What am I missing?

    Where are cases with precedence that illustrate that our law enforcement and legal system are reasonable?   As an assistant DA did you protect citizen's rights? 

    By the way, I commend the OP for being a 2nd Amendment supporter and it looks like he  put a lot of work into his blog. 


  5. I think we are suppose to be offended by the blank they do.  There is so much more to be offended by... mag limitations, one gun a month, duplicate background checks, horrendous time frames, unsanctioned stops...   Hollow heads ban hollow points!

     

    Off topic a litlte... but more offensiveness... a school assignment to create a fairy tale.  She was instructed to include some kind of horrible thing per the "formula" for fairy tales... poisoning, beheading, knife attack... but was told that in no way shape or form  could guns be included.  I am so tired of the brainwashing and conditioning of our youth.  I saw a poster in school about having the Right to a safe playground. That is a nice to have, expectation, and all, but it is NOT a right.  

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