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There's a difference between being paranoid and cautious. Not really happy about it, but for me at least, NJ has managed to kill of the face-to-face / private market. I doubt NJ would ever change this considering they are getting the tax and nics fees from people like me, who don't want strangers to have my address, know my employer, or know what possessions I have in my house.

I'm more concerned about identity theft or my house being robbed. Someone selling their guns may have fallen on hard times. Not saying this is the case, but it could be. The $200 I save face to face could wind up costing me a lot more in the long run.

I'm not sure how anyone else here feels, but I have decided not to purchase handguns face to face. I really just don't like that a stranger knows my address, phone number, and employer. Nothing against the forum members here, just a personal choice. I really don't know why the form has all that info on it. I think our name, physical description, and FID# should be enough for a face to face. The state already has the rest of our personal info, so why does the seller need it?

This really was a crazy experience. One thing I know for sure - and no offence to any LGS's who frequent this forum - I absolutely will not buy anything from a retail store in NJ. All my purchases with be private sales ftf or from retailers in PA. The entire system in NJ is broken and overpriced, and I will not support it.

Well, after 219 days, I got the call that my permits were in, and I picked them up on my lunch. Last name 'P' in Belleville. Good luck to everyone else still waiting. Should be soon now.

I've got you beat by about 2 weeks - Sept. 29, 2012. On the plus side, I did creat one of the longest running active threads on njgf!

I'm officially into my 7th month of waiting for my FID and PPs! Awesome!

Why does everyone think there is some conspiracy? The fact is the local/state PDs simply don't care and/or have no incentive to complete the FID process in a timely manner. They aren't actively denying you.

Then there is some delay between the checks being completed and getting mailed back to the local PDs. I was told by the officer in charger they are trickling in at the rate of a couple per week. And I'm one week shy of 7 months - do I get a prize for being the person on here with the longest delay?

Glad to hear it. I'm assuming your last name begins with 'D'? Anyway, when I finally get my fid and pp's, I'm only buying FTF in NJ or from stores in PA. I refuse to pay the inflated NJ NICS price, and want to avoid paying tax if possible.

Belleville update - I stopped by the PD on my way home from work. They are still waiting on the mental health check for me (P). He said they got up to G so far, and the rate they have been coming in has been very slow - maybe 3 checks per week since they started mailing them again.

Good to hear. What letter are you?

Cool. I'm P, maybe I'll get mine this week... probably not. It's like a bad joke at this point.

Since the adjuster's office has supposedly been processing the mental checks for a couple weeks now, has anyone actually received your FID or PP? Is there a police chief's convention going on?

I'm sure you'll be able to find a lawyer who is happy to "help" you with your application - for a fee. Trust me, you will be wasting your money. It will not speed the process up. It has already been determined that this process can as long as the authorities want - in the interest of public safety. There is no conspiracy, just a whole bunch of people who have absolutely no reason to rush.

If anyone finds the address, I have off next week. I wouldn't mind stopping by to see the "progress" they have made so far. The only address I have found is in Newark listed at the top of this page: http://www.essex-countynj.org/index.php?section=dir/dir&search=Office%20of%20County%20Counsel

We live in NJ, where less than 10% of the population are gun owners. As such, your two options are to accept it or move to another state. The overwhelming majority in this state are content with the current system, thus you should not expect any changes in your favor.

I just called Belleville PD. They have not gotten any mental health checks back. I think we're being lied to by Nancy and/or Frank.

Last report was they had processed up to letter C. Has anyone in Essex actually received their FID or PP this week?

I agree with you 100%. But you have to realize that if arming yourself is important, NJ isn't the place for you. Hell, NJ isn't the place for me, I just have a couple things to finish up, then I'm headed to TX.

There's no need to be so melodramatic. All that's happening is we're getting screwed on the FID's and PP's. If you REALLY believed a revolution was coming, I'm sure you would have gotten out of Newark by now. I haven't posted on here for a while, but I have been keeping up with the developments. I have accepted I'm not getting an FID. No lawyers or media outlets care. If having a gun is that important to you, you will have to move to another state. Even if you moved to another county in NJ, you won't be able to get a FID or PP because they check with the counties you used to live in. So all you can do is live with it or move to another state. While all this is sinking in, just remember, these are the people you pay taxes to

I called Frank this morning - no answer. So I sent him this email: I also emailed the Hannity Show. It's a long shot, but what else can we do besides bring the media in. I have a friend who is a reporter for News 12 NJ. He said to contact as many newspaper reporters about this problem. We should get some bites. It's not really the type of story they will cover on TV. Let's just hope for the best.

Personally, I'm tied up with other things until the end of the month, so I won't be able to call or follow up for a while. As far as the Adjuster's office, I am pretty sure I spoke to the same person every time I called, unless two women sound exactly the same. FWIW, the last time I called, the lady said she wanted this whole thing over. She said she's sick of getting calls about guns. I doubt she's doing anything to slow down the process. I would say the best thing would be to keep up pressure on the Adjuster's office and the local PDs, just so people don't forget about us. With the fingerprints, I'm pretty sure they are valid for 6 months from the day you got printed, not from your initial application with the PD. For example, if you submitted you FID application on Oct. 1, but didn't get printed until Oct. 15, your prints should be good until April 15. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Actually, it's living in NJ that stripped your 2A rights...

Ok, just called called the Adjuster. This is turning into complete BS, and I'm willing to bet it will be months, and possibly years, before anything gets sorted The records ARE NOT done, and there is no ETA as to when they will be. Essex county is doing the checks IN HOUSE, they ARE NOT being outsourced. The lady I spoke with DOES NOT have any info on the company doing the restoration. She DOES NOT even know their location Sorry to say, but at this point, the people who applied in Sept (including myself), will most like have to get re-printed.