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Thanks for the update @Tunaman. I'm close to biting the bullet and getting this done. At least I now know what someone paid for similar current work.

I'm so sorry.

We converted to natural gas many years ago (maybe 25?), which is why we have the decommissioned oil tank. Back then the rules were much more lax; in hindsight, we should have had the tank removed instead of decommissioned, but who knew?

@maintenanceguy, while I genuinely doybt that will happen in my case, anything is possible. That's why I'm so nervous about having the tank removed. The way things have been going lately, this worst-case scenerio is a possibility; a small possibility, but still... @Barms, I've been advised by a number of people in real estate and the personal experience of a friend who is selling her house to get this done well before the house goes on the market. A lot of people won't even consider a house with a decommissioned oil tank. I've got about a year before selling so it needs to be done sooner rather than later. This is the first major work that I'm doing since my husband passed away so I'm worried about the entire process. But it's the only downside to an otherwise great house so I know that I have to do it soon. I truly appreciate everyone's advice and recommendations, it helps me feel a bit more confident.

Unfortunately, that fund was closed a number of years ago.

@fishnut, thanks so much for that information, it helps a lot.

@Barms, you bring up an interesting point. I never thought of that. Unfortunately, the oil tank is partially under my back stairs (brick and concrete). I'm afraid that if I wait to remove the tank and there is any damage to the back stairs the home sale could be extremely delayed. If I do it before the house is on the market then any damage can be repaired. I plan to sell in about a year, so hopefully there won't be any contamination problems after I get the paperwork. @Tunaman, I would really appreciate an update after you get prices and decide who to use.

^^^^This 100%^^^^

The thought of that makes me laugh out loud! I would love to see that happen and watch the horror.

@Scorpio64, you may be correct about the fear versus apathy. I used the wrong word, it's not apathy per se. I think many are simply overwhelmed with their day-to-day lives to pay close attention. Many of my generation are helping to raise grandchildren (physically and/or financially), managing elderly parents, and trying to figure out if they can retire (or if retired, trying to figure out how to make their money stretch). Every generation has something, I can only speak to what I know. Plus, the constant bombardment from the media about every impending "crisis" (like a snowstorm) creates an environment where many people tune it all out. People are on overload. That's what I meant by apathy, although it's not the correct term. As you said, maybe people are living in a constant state of fear about everything. Whatever the cause, it's real. That's why I believe that a change in tactics should at least be considered. Let's learn from the successes of the antis. Primarily, their financial backing. I find it hard to believe that there are no wealthy people or corporations who are pro-2A. Firearm manufacturers? Ammunition manufacturers? As I said before, I have no idea how to even begin the search so maybe my words ring hollow.

Look at how apathtic most people are about losing one of the 1st Amendment's tenets, freedom of speech. We now have the "PC police" ready to pounce if anyone says "illegal alien." College campuses, which used to be a haven for free speech (at least when I was there many years ago), now have lists of words that can't be used---in some cases even "he" and "she" (replaced by "they"). If the general population is keeping quiet about this assault on the 1st Amendment---at least publicly---what can we do to encourage fighting for the 2nd Amendment? As @capt14k said, MONEY. Learn from what the antis are doing. They're backed by big money including Bloomberg and Soros. We have...? The professionals plan a "spontaneous" rally, bus in the participants, have consistent talking points (facts aren't important), have the MSM assembled, and then send everyone home only to plan for the next rally when it's needed. The pro-2A side needs big money backers who are prepared to play the same game as the antis. Honestly, I have no idea how to accomplish that, but we must have some pro-2A people who do know. An influx of lawsuits is another tactic; but again, that requires big money. I don't mean a lawsuit so one person can get his/her CCW, I mean a lawsuit against the state about the vague wording of the laws, the redundancy of the laws, the non-constitutionality of the laws. IMHO, continuing to repeat an action that isn't working is counter-productive and frustrating. Yes, we need to fight for our 2A rights (as well as our 1A rights), but we need to see what the opposition is doing right and make it work for us. That will take HUGE MONEY.

Thanks @capt14k and @the_stranger. A couple of more places to call. I want to get this done in a month or so. I'm just shuddering at the anticipated cost and mess!

Here's my "home protection" dog, Brandy. She thinks she's a big dog so she'll bark at any unknown noises, but once she sees someone who is friendly she's most likely to want a belly rub. Otherwise, she'll run between my legs for protection. That's when I call her "Killer."

Thanks everyone. The company who decommissioned it 25-years-ago is long gone.

We had our underground oil tank decommissioned approximately 25-years-ago when we switched to gas heat. At the time, minimal paperwork was required. In preparation for ultimately selling my house I want to have the old oil tank removed. Obviously, I want it done properly and legally, with all required permits and paperwork. Has anyone had this done relatively recently? Any recommendations for a company to contact for a quote? TIA

@capt14k, I can't believe how close our separate posts sound! Yeah, maybe we are into something...or great minds think alike.

Whoa bro. Why can't someone have an awesome idea after the fact? Aren't we supposed to learn from each action? I didn't attend yesterday for a number of reasons. That doesn't mean that I care less than anyone else! I made a $ donation yesterday to one of our 2A groups because I didn't attend the rally. Do I care less? One of my take-aways from yesterday across the country. We do not have a "Daddy Bigbucks" behind us to bus in and pay rally participants, set-up state-of-the-art audio systems, pay professional speakers with unified talking points, import the press and give them professional copy to use, etc. Should I continue? The idea that all it takes is a simple tweet to the antis and they come out in the thousands is BS! Very few "regular" gun owners knew anything about yesterday's rally. If you're not a member of NJGF or a few select Facebook pages, you knew nothing! You own your firearms, you appreciate them, and you take them to the range to "practice" (maybe) where you're probably not a member. How do we reach those people, who outnumber us? We need better and coordinated communication, not the crap that we got (and didn't get) prior to yesterday. I'm far from a whining snowflake, but how do we convince someone to attend a rally when we don't even know who's speaking (if anyone) until 24-hours before the fact? No speakers? That's fine too, I don't need to hear the same crap said a dozen different ways. But tell us that there won't be speakers! I'm in my 60s, I've attended rallies before some of you were born! I won't attend a rally where I don't know exactly what I'm supporting. Pro 2A, hell yes. Not enough info about what else may be put out there, hell no. Been there, done that, not happening again. As for NJ gunowners in general, we can't fault them for not attending something that they didn't know about. They should be our target audience, they're all ready leaning our way. NJ politicians are bought and paid for, ain't gonna happen. The anti groups? Also bought and paid for, no way we sway 99.9% of them. Joe/Jill Doe NJ gunowner who isn't active in 2A social media (or social media in general), those are the people we need to find and target so we can get them out to vote. That takes $ so maybe something as simple as a couple of ads in a few newspapers might reach some. People do still read newspapers and the ad-purchaser gets to develop and finalize the copy/message, not the press. Yeah, I have an opinion and I wasn't at the rally yesterday (I was at the previous Trenton rally).

We could have told you that you have a thick skull! I'll leave the other references to others. But seriously, I agree with @BobA, get thee to an ER. I'm less concerned about the outside bleeding than I am about internal stuff, especially with ringing in your ear!

Ouch! Maybe go to the ER to get checked?

I won't comply!

I'll let you know if I get anywhere, Rosey.

@Smokin .50, thank you for the factual update. Rosey, this isn't directed at you, you have enough on your plate! Does anyone know who those "15 speakers" might be? I'm getting no where trying to find out from any of the original organizers. My very personal opinion: Besides the general "pro-2A" purpose of the rally, I want to know who is speaking before I support a rally organized by out-of-state people who I don't know and who don't seem to be very forthcoming with the NJ groups that I know and support. I'm very pro-2A, but that doesn't mean that I agree with the tactics of every group in the country who claims the pro-2A mantle. As I said before, everyone has to make his/her own decision. Thankfully, we're not the sheeple. Just sayin...

I didn't miss it, that's what I said.

Thanks for checking, @Krdshrk. Please keep us updated if you hear anything. I can see both sides to going vs not going if more info isn't provided before Saturday. Getting out to Trenton, and being seen and heard are important to salvaging our 2A rights. However, having only a small number show with absolutely no organization can make for really poor optics. Let's face it, that will make the MSM (and the politicians) very happy. I saw Mark Cheeseman's FB attempt at getting information and I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the responses. @Scorpio64, I understand what you're saying about how the anti-2As seem to show-up with a simple tweet, but you know that it's really not what it seems and certainly not that simple. Those "impromptu rallies" are well orchestrated and people are bussed in to attend and speak. Let's not pretend that there aren't major players and major money behind those events---and I'm not talking about porta-potties. The MSM salivates at covering and supporting those rallies. This is the first I read that there may not be rallies in every state. In the end everyone has to do what he/she believes is right. I'm hoping to see evidence of some planning before Saturday.

If there's a shoulder and a buffer you can pull over more. Of course, you may be in danger of pulling over a cliff...