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  1. I'm fortunate enough to live in one of NJ's rural areas with several very small towns.  I know a few people who have received their carry permits.  The data can be found here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nj.office.of.justice.data/viz/PermittoCarryDashboard/Intro   (click the "municipal data" tab near the top of the page).

    • My township shows zero permits issued.  I have one and I know someone else who has one.  That's two and I don't know 2% of the people in my township.
    • One township near me shows 1, I know of three.
    • Another township shows zero and I know of two.

    Looks like the "official" data is about 1/3 of the people I know that have permits and a tiny, tiny fraction of the people I don't know.

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  2. Doesn't look like rust.  Stainless will corrode and get dark spots like that.  But, there is conflicting information on whether the Mariner was ever actually stainless steel and modern versions apparently are not - just coated to look like stainless.  Truth is, all of my guns get used so a minor discoloration like that would barely be noticed here.


  3. 5 hours ago, 45Doll said:

    IMO this guy had enough of everything.

    California Authorities Raid Gun Owner's Home, Seize Massive Stockpile of Firearms and Ammunition – RedState

    California Attorney General Rob Bonta today announced the arrest of a suspect in Richmond with a large cache of illegal firearms, including assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, and approximately one million rounds of ammunition. The suspect is alleged to be legally barred from owning weapons.

    "DOJ agents seized approximately 11 military-style machine guns, 133 handguns, 37 rifles, 60 assault rifles, 7 shotguns, 20 silencers, 4 flare guns, 3,000 large capacity magazines, approximately one million rounds of miscellaneous caliber ammunition, and dozens of rifle receivers and pistol frames."

    Ok, some of this is illegal and it sounds like he's probably up to no good but I'm still a little jealous and feel like I have some catching up to do.

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  4. About the older black guy open carrying in Walmart: 

    I'm good with it but NJ law is not (shocker). 

    2C:58-4 a.
    ...shall not be construed to authorize a holder to carry a handgun openly, provided that a brief, incidental exposure of a handgun while transferring it to or from a holster or due to the shifting of the person's body position or clothing shall be deemed a de minimis infraction within the contemplation of...

    De minimis only means that the judge has the OPTION to throw out charges when you go to court.  You can be charged be charged and convicted of a crime unless the judge exercises the option to throw out charges.  A De minimis infraction is the same violation of the law as if your actions were intentional.

     

     


  5. I will probably not disclose unless it's a situation where disclosure is required.  Concealed means concealed and why created problems?

    The rule is you must disclose if you are stopped or detained.

    2C:58-4.4

    b. The holder of a permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to N.J.S.2C:58-4, if stopped or detained by a law enforcement officer while carrying a handgun in public or traveling with a handgun in a motor vehicle, shall:

    (1) immediately disclose to the law enforcement officer that they are carrying a handgun or that a handgun is stored in the vehicle; and

    (2) display the permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to N.J.S.2C:58-4.

    A violation of paragraph (1) of this section shall be a crime of the fourth degree. A person who violates paragraph (2) of this subsection shall be guilty of a disorderly persons offense for a first offense and subject to a $100 fine and a crime of the fourth degree for a second or subsequent offense.

    c. A holder of a permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to N.J.S.2C:58-4 who is carrying a handgun in public and is detained by a law enforcement officer as part of a criminal investigation shall provide the handgun to the law enforcement officer upon request for purposes of inspecting the handgun. The provisions of this subsection shall not be construed to affect or otherwise limit the authority of a law enforcement officer to conduct a lawful search or seizure.

    A violation of this subsection shall be a crime of the fourth degree.

     

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  6. Law says it must be concealed.  First amendment says you can talk about it.  But threatening someone isn't covered (and shouldn't be) by the 1st amendment so tread lightly whenever you talk about it.

    But, if the situation has gotten so bad that I need my opponent to know that I'm armed right now, I'm probably not going to give him a verbal warning first - because I don't want him to have a chance to respond before I have a chance to act.

    But 99.99% of potential threats never turn into immediate threats.


  7. If you hire an attorney to fight a government that is doing something illegal, you should not have any harm done to you since they were wrong.  So...they (the party that was wrong) should be forced to pay your legal expenses - since you wouldn't have had any legal expenses if the other party hadn't done something illegal. 

    So, you hire the attorney to fight your case at your expense.  But when you win, the other party can be forced to pay your attorney instead.


  8. 8 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

    The ruling doesn't even force PA to start issuing permits to 18-20 year olds. What it does is prohibit law enforcement from arresting or charging 18-20 year olds from open carrying during a state of emergency. 18-20 year olds could already open carry without a permit when there was no state of emergency declared.

    PA statute says you can open carry without a permit, unless there is a state of emergency in effect. If there is a state of emergency, you need a PA LTCF to carry open or concealed. It became an issue when Governor Wolf declared a state of emergency due to an opioid epidemic, and then for the Covid19 epidemic. The PA legislator has since curtailed the Governor's ability to declare sustained states of emergency.

    Thank you for the explanation.


  9. I can't bring myself to watch a 12 minute video for 1 minute of information.  So, for those of you who were blessed with more patience than I have, how does this affect us in NJ?

    Normally, I thought a 3rd circuit decision like this would force NJ to start issuing permits to 18 year olds but I haven't read that anywhere.


  10. 29 minutes ago, diamondd817 said:

    Sooooo, hypothetically, one could use a 22lr pistol for the live fire portion?

    Yes. The instructors I've show with will not allow .22 for the qualification and I think they're wrong.  If grandma can safely handle a .22 but struggles to rack the slide on a 9mm, let her exercise her constitutional rights too.

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  11. 9 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

    so does my pd telling me they need nothing else once i gave them the sp182 cause me a problem come jan 1?

    The law says that the PD has to do something, not that you have to do something.  I am not a lawyer so I'm the wrong guy to ask - but I don't see how you can get into legal trouble for not following a law that directs someone else to do something.

    It is going to be something the PD's are going to require before you can get a carry permit going forward.  So, if you want the permit you'll have to submit it.  If you don't do it, you might get your permit revoked. 

    I don't see how it's optional but I also don't see how you could get a charge.  But again, not a lawyer.


  12. The law requires your local PD to collect a complete list of firearms you intend to carry.

    2C:58-4
    The chief police officer or the superintendent, as the case may be, shall also determine and record a complete description of each handgun the applicant intends to carry.

    The onus is on the police department. But I realize that requires us to submit that list.  If I was issued a permit (by NJSP) without doing that, I'm not sure I'm in violation of any law since the law didn't direct me to do anything.

    That said, I don't see any specific method required to submit the list so I emailed mine to my local NJSP Barracks.  I never got a reply and I'm just keeping the email as proof. List of email addresses is half way down this page: https://www.nj.gov/njsp/firearms/index.shtml

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