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  4. Posted

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/02/nj_lawmakers_want_to_push_through_7_new_gun_laws_i.html#incart_river_home

    State lawmakers will hold a a marathon public hearing Wednesday to debate seven bills that would further tighten New Jersey's gun laws on the heels of mass shootings across the country.

    Many of the measures were introduced during former Gov. Chris Christie's tenure, but the Republican governor blocked efforts by Democrats in the Legislature to strengthen state gun laws, which are already considered among the toughest in the nation.

    Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, has said he is eager to sign them into law.

    The Assembly Judiciary Committee will collect testimony Monday before its members vote on whether to advance the package of bills through the Legislature. 

    "We're all tired of seeing one tragedy after another play out with next to nothing getting done to protect children and communities," said Assemblywoman Annette Quijano, D-Union, the committee's chair. "We need to do better."

  6. Posted

    ANJRPC'S TOP TEN REASONS TO WEIGH IN WITH LEGISLATORS
     


     

    Those who can't attend tomorrow's hearing should still continue to contact members of the Assembly Judiciary Committee. The hearing may also be viewable on the NJ Legislature website here. Select the date and committee, and either "view" or "listen" depending on whether the coverage is audio or video.

    And just a reminder to all gun owners why it is important for everyone to weigh in even when the odds are impossible, please see ANJRPC's list below of the Top Ten Reasons For Gun Owners to Weigh in with Legislators:

    1. Pressuring lawmakers has worked, even in NJ. In 2013 and 2014, the unified, focused efforts of New Jersey gun owners stopped over 85 anti-gun bills in their tracks. In 2016, New Jersey gun owners halted a massive attack on gun clubs and shooting ranges throughout the state via a concentrated pressure campaign led by ANJRPC and NRA. These are just a few of many examples. Pressuring lawmakers has worked in the past.

    2. The Second Amendment is under massive attack. Gun rights have never been under greater attack than they are right now. Gun owners must speak with one overwhelming voice whenever and wherever our precious Freedom is attacked. No one is going to do it for us - it's up to us!

    3. Silence Suggests We Don't Care. The last thing lawmakers should conclude is that gun owners don't care about the issue. That would embolden our enemies, and suggest to our friends that the issue (and their vote on it) doesn't matter to us. Lawmakers on both sides must be clear about what is important to gun owners, because it guides their actions.

    4. Anti-Gun lawmakers must feel the heat. Those trying to extinguish our rights cannot be given a free pass. They must be made to understand that their actions are wrong and that multitudes of citizens are outraged. They may try to tune us out the louder we get, but that only means we have gotten their attention - which is one of the goals of a pressure campaign. They must be taken to task, on each and every issue, regardless of the outcome. This is why anti-gun legislators now only pick a few firearms issues to pursue each session, instead of the dozens they used to pursue all at once. They know we are going to engage tenaciously on every issue and resist them every step of the way.

    5. Our legislative friends need to hear from us, too. If our lawmaker friends hear silence on an important issue, they may conclude that gun owners do not care about the issue. In decades past, both parties were against us on Second Amendment issues. That has changed significantly due to the very hard work of gun owners like you over a sustained period. If an issue is important to you, our legislative friends need to hear from you.

    6. Many lawmakers are trying to help us - we need to have their backs. Many lawmakers have risked their careers to support the Second Amendment, and have come under massive attack for it. We need to have their backs, show them our support, step up to the plate and speak out to show them that there are one million law-abiding gun owners who are standing with them.

    7. Every lawmaker must be forced to take a side. Gun owners need to let lawmakers know they are watching, and lawmakers need to be reminded that the Second Amendment should not be a partisan issue - it's an issue of basic human rights, and it resonates with numerous voters. Remaining silent on a litmus-test issue is counterproductive and potentially damaging to the issue.

    8. The media needs to know we are engaged. The media has blocked our message for decades. Now is the moment we need to be more vocal than ever. To be silent is to squander unique opportunities to get our message out to the general public.

    9. We need to counter the false narrative that the public is opposed to gun rights. Most people do not know that the government has absolved itself of any legal duty to protect individual citizens. When the public hears that message, the right to self-defense becomes self-evident, and public support for it increases. We need to reinforce this message with legislators and counter the false narrative that the public is opposed to Second Amendment rights.

    10. The latest attacks mark the beginning of the fight, not the end. We are in a new legislative session, and the fight is just beginning. We have to fight with all our strength, every step of the legislative process, and then be prepared to defeat anything that passes in court. Gun owners cannot surrender in silence because we think the odds are against us - we have to stand and fight in spite of the odds! History has called us to this time - we must all answer the call.
     

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    HEARING LOGISTICS FOR TOMORROW

    All gun owners are encouraged to attend tomorrow's hearing of the Assembly Judiciary Committee and make your voice heard.  The hearing is scheduled to begin at 11 a.m. at the State House Annex, 131-137 State Street, Trenton, NJ, 4th floor, committee room 11 (committee room is always subject to change). Click here for directions.

    Parking can be challenging, but there are several different options:

    • Trenton Parking Authority, 110 N. Warren Street
    • Lafayette Garage, (hotel parking), 1 West Lafayette Street
    • Trenton Parking Authority, E Front Street between N. Warren and Broad Street
    • State House garage, adjacent to State House Annex (limited visitor parking)
    • Metered Street parking outside the State House (meters need to be fed repeatedly).

    You will have to pass through metal detectors at the entrance, provide ID, and indicate where you are heading (Assembly Judiciary Committee hearing). You will be given a temporary ID card to display on your clothing.

    In order to testify, you must fill out a testimony slip when you enter the hearing room, and hand it to the clerk indicating you wish to testify. You will need to indicate your name, organization (if any), bill number, and whether you wish to testify for or against. You can also indicate your position with no need to testify. You must complete a testimony slip for each bill you want to testify on.

    The committee chair makes the rules about how long each person gets to testify. Prepare to be as brief as possible -- if a lot of people attend, you could be limited to 1 or 2 minutes. Keep remarks focused on the specific legislation you're testifying about -- you may be interrupted if you go off-topic.

    Make sure you activate the microphone when you sit down to testify. Press the button on the microphone base until you see a red light illuminate. Your remarks will not be heard or recorded if you do not activate the microphone.

     

  11. Posted

    Members of the NJ Assembly Judiciary Committee  


    Assemblywoman Annette Quijano (D20) — Chair
    [email protected]
    P: (908) 624-0880

    Assemblyman Joseph A. Lagana (D38) — Vice Chair
    [email protected]
    P: (201) 576-9199

    Assemblyman Arthur Barclay (D5)
    [email protected]
    P: (856) 541-1251

    Assemblyman Gordon M. Johnson (D37)
    [email protected]
    P: (201) 530-0469  

    Assemblywoman Carol A. Murphy (D7)
    [email protected]
    P:(856) 735-5334

    Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll (R25)
    [email protected]
    P: (973) 539-8113

    Assemblyman Erik Peterson (R23)
    [email protected]    
    P: (908) 238-0251

  15. Posted

    10 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said:

    I only saw handgun ammunition listed in the bill. Did I miss something?

    No, the pasted information is from the NRA, and appears to be incorrect, since the bill only covers SS190AP:

    From the bill:

    Police officers have encountered a new and highly destructive bullet.  The SS190AP ammunition for the Five-seveN Tactical handgun is uniquely designed.  It is a full metal jacketed bullet, but utilizes two metal inserts.  The tip of the bullet has a steel penetrator which is followed by an aluminum core.  The weight relationship between the two metals causes the bullet to tumble in soft body tissue, resulting in massive and, in many instances, deadly wounds.

         But it is not just the substantial body trauma these bullets can cause that makes them a special threat to the law enforcement community.  When fired from the Five-seveN handgun, the SS190AP bullet can penetrate 48 layers of Kevlar, the protective material used to make many types of body armor.

  16. Posted

    7 hours ago, GunsnFreedom said:

    AFAIK hollow nose is not an actual thing.  They must mean hollow-point, which is not prohibited.  

    It's wholly possible they think HP are prohibited.  They know little about the actual laws.

    They do mean hollow point, which (remember how NJ works) are prohibited, except within exemptions, which include possession in the home, range, point-of-purchase, etc.

    This is the NJ mindset, everything is prohibited, except ....

  17. Posted

    The Assembly Judiciary Committee has now scheduled a hearing on Wednesday, February 28, at 11:00 a.m. in Room 11 of the State House Annex, fourth floor.  Why so little notice?  They know it’s important that you attend, and they simply don’t want that to happen.  You can bet that their gun control colleagues had plenty of time to make plans to attend and will try to stack the room.  As always, it’s important that you call and email your legislators, but NRA-ILA and ANJPRC, the official NRA state association, is also encouraging gun owners to attend and make a strong statement.


    The following bills are scheduled to be considered:

    A2761 Magazine Ban: Reduces maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.

    A2759 Ammo Ban: Prohibits possession of so-called “armor piercing ammunition" banning most common centerfire rifle ammunition. 

    A2758 Removes right to carry: Codifies regulations defining justifiable need to carry handgun.

    A2757 Bans private transfers by requiring dealer background checks for all private gun sales.

    A1016 Smart Guns: Establishes commission to approve smart guns; requires firearm retailers to sell smart guns.

    A1217 Authorizes “gun violence restraining orders” which would lead to the seizure of firearms in situations where only an allegation has occurred without any conviction. This would all occur with little to no due process of the law.

    A1181 Requires firearms seizure when health "professionals" think someone poses risk.

    Again, these bills are all failed concepts that will do nothing to improve public safety.  They represent a serious infringement on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding New Jersey gun owners.  Enough is enough.  Please make plans to attend the hearing next week and contact members of the Assembly Judiciary Committee, respectfully asking them to reject these gun control bills.

    NJLEG version:

     

    Assembly Judiciary
        Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 11:00 AM
        Meeting - Committee Room 11, 4th Floor, State House Annex, Trenton, NJ
     
    Bill Abstract   Current Status LDOA  
    A1016 Handguns, personalized-sell by retailers   AJU 1/9/2018  
    A1181 Mental health prof warning-seize firearm   ALP 1/9/2018  
    A1217 Gun viol. restraining orders-auth.   ALP 1/9/2018  
    A2757 Priv. gun sales-req background check   AJU 2/1/2018  
    A2758 Handgun, need to carry-codifies reg.   AJU 2/1/2018  
    A2759 Ammunition, penetrate body armor-proh.   AJU 2/1/2018  
    A2761 Ammunition magazines-reduce to 10 rounds   AJU 2/1/2018  
     

     

  19. Posted

    5 minutes ago, ShadowShu said:

    Legit question if it passes and goes from 15 to 10, what do you do?  How do you get your 15 rd clip to 10?  Is that possible?  Should I start shopping for 10rd clips?  

    I know there's a gut response of "F" them but realistically what does a legal law abiding NJ citizen do to not get arrested, have to spend tens to hundreds of thousands on lawyers, and not go to jail for this mag round limit BS?

    Your options will be destroy (render inoperable), sell or turn over to the police chief (specifically) within 180 days.

    I say we turn them over, one at a time, insisting on a F2F with the chief each time.

  24. Posted

    2 hours ago, mossburger said:

    Yeah but (Nationwide) the current fad is AR pistols (aka no stamp SBRs) so it's not too big a leap to making 5.56 also a handgun round if they really wanted to

    Not for a handgun (AR pistol) that would be illegal in NJ, I'd say.

    2 hours ago, GunsnFreedom said:

    That one is just adding ogive penetrator bullet lingo to a restricted list.

    It's probably this one by Nia Gill and Loretta Weinberg (Senate)

    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/S0500/102_I1.HTM

    And 

    Louis Greenwald (Assembly)

    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A3000/2761_I1.HTM

    Those are both versions of the 10-round limit law.

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