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Thanks for the positive feedback, Jason. It was a pleasure doing business!

Hey Jason, sent you a PM

If still available, I'll take it. I'm also located in Woodbridge.

PM sent. I'm not sure how notifications work for PMs...

Thanks pizza bob, your posts are always very informative. I knew this wasn't going to be easy. I will try to find the time to take off from work to get this done, even though from the conversation I had with that dectective (see above) I might as well go to chief or mayor now. I also plan to work the tow NJ gun rights orgs. Luckily I already have an FID, and from what you are all saying, I should be ok with my old FID while I pursue these alternatives.

Thats the rub with me, boo. Besides a family member (who don't count), I don't know anybody in JC, let alone anybody for 3 years. I thought that particular thing was a preference, from how I interpreted it, though I am not surprised it is a requirement, as you seem to be saying. Plus where I work they are really liberal. As you, I do not want to ask my boss to write a notarized letter. He can tell me what to do at work, but in no way will I ask him permission to be a gun owner. All in all, I feel your pain

yeah millsan, i heard they do it in like 6 weeks, but at the cost of those illegal requirements it seems. its funny because where I lived before, my initial FID took 7-8 months, but they stayed within NJ law when it came to requirements.

Blueline, I was gonna start that conversation with the detective, but I felt so frustrated that I thought it was better to just keep my composure. I mean, I just wanted to comply with the law and really had no problem going through the process, but then they put up these illegal barriers. I'm glad there are LEOs out there like you that are reasonable and trying to change things. I've met some good cops in my job in other towns and have built good relationships with them. It is just disappointing when you met guys like these. It's really a systemic issue in NJ and I hope things will change as new cops come in, as you stated.

Boo, did they give you this ridiculous packet of extra requirements asking for very intrusive information? This is what they are asking for my address change, checkout my thread in the general gun law section where I outline everything. I had a feeling this is something they are doing for a while. I am glad you were able to get your FID in friendlier territory.

Thanks for explainng Alpo, and don't worry your disclaimer is noted. So from what you are saying, I assume that since my guns were legally acquired I can possess them regardless of my FID status (same goes with all legal ammo). And that my old FID, despite not matching my new license, is still a valid document that will allow me to travel with my long guns without those pesky direct-to-and-from requirements?? So in reality, the only thing I can't do with the old FID is buy another gun, since they will ask to match with my license. (I have actually purchased handgun ammo at a store that didnt ask to see my license)

You are right OG, I shall join both orgs. Blueline, luckily I made my last foreseeable purchase right before I moved so i think I will be good for a while (haha well we will see if I don't see something I like in the near future and then have to suffer!) Magnaw, actually as soon as the clerk rejected my filled out application and handed me the illegal packet, I calmly let her know that the NJ statutes say the extra requirements are prohibited. She was basically speechless, so either she was totally ignorant or was surprised that I spoke up. Then an old school detective comes up to me and takes over the convo. He tells me that "things are done differently in Jersey City" and that if I didn't like it I can opt to not do the address change in Jersey City. My blood started to boil but I remained calm, and repeated that that they can't supercede NJ state law, or something along those lines. He then pointed to a giant filing cabinet where they keep all the internal records of all JC gun owners (I forgot to mention that you also have to provide two mug shots that go in your "personal file") and told me that because of all their hard work not one of the gun owners in their registry has been arrested. I couldn't take it after he said that, but I still remained calm, said thank you and left. Can you believe it?? I guess he should try to get all the gang bangers in that filing cabinet cuz it seems that being in that registry automatically makes you law-adiding! Never mind that legal gun owners like us never get guns for nefarious reasons in the first place!

Thanks OG, I appreciate the threads. I left ANJRPC a voicemail addressing my issue, and will contact NJ2AS shortly. i would more than happy to contribute to their causes and join any sort of law suit they eventually get rolling. However, I am still kinda worried about not having an FID that matches my license, in the meantime. I know all my guns were legally acquired and my FID is valid, but what does the law says about not having a completed an address change within 30 days of moving? I read somewhere here that while the laws says you have to get it done in 30 days, there is nothing stated about enforcement or penalties etc. Is this another of those ridiculous gray area? As much as I disagree, i still want to stay law-abiding if I can.

Thanks, guys, i appreciate it. I shoulda joined a while ago. If any of you have the time, please read a thread I just posted in the general gun law section.

Hello all, I have been following the forums for a while and have found it very educational whenever I had questions about the absurdness of our gun laws. Unfortunately I have found myself in one of these absurd predicaments, and I hope that some of you could provide some insight. I received my FID almost two years ago. This past November I moved with my fiance to Jersey City and then realized I had to do an address change. However, moving and starting a new job prevented me from doing this in within 30 days. Plus being turned away with wrong information at the police station 2-3 times when I was able to spare some time didn't help either. When I finally was able to submit my application, I was turned away once again and given a packet with a list of additional, and illegal, requirements. There is an informational sheet asking questions like what type of house I live in, my previous employers, name and social security numbers of people I live with (what the hell!), reason for why I am applying, do I already own guns, when and where did I received my last gun permit, and the license plate number of my car. And then there are additional documents such as proof of residency (utility bill, lease, etc), and get this, naturalization certificate or US passport if foreign-born. Now I know this is all illegal, however as much as this violation of my rights and NJ law infuriates me, I don't have resources right now to drop several thousand dollars on a lawyer. I was gonna actually go through with it today, however, I read in a NJGF thread from last year that JC requires your employer to provide a notarized letter stating why you can have a gun. That was the last straw. I keep my personal life personal, especially from the highly liberal place where I work. Would anybody be able to tell me how to get in touch with one of the various NJ gun rights organizations? Would they be able to provide some guidance or assistance? Fighting the City, as well as the Hudson Political machine, is no easy task. I am also now willing to talk to a lawyer. Can anybody recommend any who are reasonable in price? I heard that Nappen won a similar case for someone in Paterson for an initial FID, but also hear that his firm is expensive. Lastly, I know this wouldn't be legal advice, but would I be alright legally in the meantime with my old FID? I didn't plan on buying any new guns soon so I'm ok there, however I think I am in a legal gray area and I don't want to be screwed (considering I'm past 30 days). Any assistance anybody could provide in this matter would be highly appreciated, thanks

Hello all, Just wanted to say hello and introduce myself. I have been following the forums for some time now and have found it to provide a lot of valuable information, so I decided to join and possibly contribute to the disccussions. Anyway, I have an issue with my FID change of address application, which I will post in the gun law discussion topic section shortly. If anybody checking out that thread has any insight, it would be greatly appreciated! And of course you have any questions for me on this thread, that's cool too.