Eric.

Clean looking boom stick, Dan. How do you like the ALG line vs a Geissele line? How much does your rifle weigh? Eric

Agreed, werder & jm1827. While it might be close to once a month, i am grateful, lol. Eric

You still didnt get the point. You win. Eric

Did this ever go anywhere? Im definitely interested... Eric

best answer, imo. ive used all 3 brands in 7 and 8 twist. both twist rates stabilize anything from 55 to 77gr well. WOA might be the best bang for your buck. the spr profile has a wylde chamber so you can shoot 223 or 556. also, it is the correct contour with the corrct machined lip for an ops inc suppressor(which we cant use). Oh, its very accurate too. im kn my second WOA spr barrel. theyre made from Wilson blanks. lots of value there. Eric

If you think what I mentioned is "almost 100% incorrect", then I really don't know if there is anything more for me to say. I am no 3gun expert, so lets get that out of the way. I'm not clueless either. without getting into a senseless, hair splitting pissing match, let me make my point simple, then you can posture all you want. 3gun favors speed/mobility and lightweight. Typically, those guys use lite weight, fixed stocks, thinner profile barrels, lite freefloat guards and 1-4x optics. If this isn't the opposite of a true SPR, then I don't jnow what is. Eric

Agreed on the 50yd to 500yd range being most ideal for an SPR. I know I'm splitting hairs buy a dmr rifle and an spr are very similar in roles and performance. The Navy is using a MK 12, the Marines and Army are using a SAMR. The first uses an 18" barrel, the other a 20"er. Eric

This pic is a typical SPR. It looks like a longer, SPR barrel. Rifle length gas. Guessing, it looks lile a 5-20x Schmidt Bender PM II scope. Mucho dinero. Kinda similar to a MK 12 mod 1. It also has a 45 degree holo sight. The set up has the holo sight as a cqb back up, but make no mistake, the guns primary role is to extend the reach of the squad. Eric

I think the original post is getting buried. The OP stated that he already has an 18" spr barrel and his intended use range is 50 to 300 yards. That said, imo, a 4-14x variable optic would work well. Especially since it was stated that some precision target shooting was in the plan. For that matter, having a tiny bit extra magnification doesnt hurt and at the 4x end, you have a nice wide field of vision. The 4x ACOG was an exaple of what the military feels is a good magnification for 0 to 250 yards. i wasnt suggesting he put an acog on. All that said, the OPs current setup is probably not optimum for 3 gun. a heavier 18" spr profile barrel is a bit long and a bit heavy. 3g favors light, shorter barrels and quick target acquisition. 3g setups are not good for longer range precision work or 300 yard hunting shots. Its too much to ask to have a 1 size fits all. Best bet is to make another AR or at very least, build a second upper that you can swap out easily. Eric

My idea of "short" is within 200 yds. The point was that an SPR, by definition, is a longer barreled rifle with longer range accuracy potential. Why would you have a 6x optic on an SPR? For that matter, the guys at Crane went with a fixed 10x, originally... My last point is having your gun setup to handle close work and long work will just result in a gun that isn't ideal for neither. Also, using an SPR set up for 3 gun is just plain silly. I know, that was 2 last points. Eric

It sounds like you want your SPR to be able to do CQB duty too, which isn't always practical. The guys that shoot ppl for a living say that your rifle setup should be mission driven. If you set it up as an SPR, then its set up for longer range accuracy. It won't be the lightest or shortest gun. Also, your optics should favor longer shots. That said, if you want a compromise, use a 45 degree mount reflex sight. Also, thimk about somethjng like the Leupold 4-14 scope. It should be flexible enough for between 10 to 400ish yards. Remember, ACOGs are usually 4x and are good for close stuff short of going form room to room. Eric

I didn't vote but wanted to make a point- You list MOA reticles & Mil reticle scopes. The best advice I can give is to make sure the turrets match you reticle i.e. Mil dot & Mil/Mil turrets. HAving mismatched turrets, like a Mil dot reticle and MOA turrets is old school and not necessary. Personally, I'm a mil dot/dash kind of guy. *Edit-I'm also a fan of Vortex. You get a lot of value, comparable to more expensive scopes. Eric

MK 12-ish SPR: This started life as a stock post ban Bushmaster XM15. Bushmaster lower, Geissele DMR trigger, Bushy A2 stock BCM upper, Robar NP3 treated BCG, WOA SS 18" match barrel, SPR profile, mid gas, 7 twist no name, gun show free float handguard Vortex Viper 6.5-20 SFP, Mil dot reticle Eric

I'm new around here... Mostly a recreational precision rifle guy. Usually shooting a MK12-ish SPR, 5.56 or a custom bolt gun; 6.5 creedmoor. Eric

I'm new to this forum but have been going to Range 14 for years. Life only lets me shoot about 1-2 times a month, on Sat afternoons. That said, I'm open for a small group meet up on the rifle range... Eric