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  1. 1 hour ago, EdF said:

    I'm absolutely serious . . . but, I can come right back and tell you not to tell me how our country works.

    Get it?

    No, I don't. And I encourage you to let it go. We can agree to disagree and move on. Shall we? Or do you need to have the last word and be right about everything? 

    59 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said:

    We don't agree.  We simply accept because there is no other practical choice.


  2. 4 hours ago, EdF said:

    No, no, no, no, no . . . First, you need to learn the difference between government action and the actions of citizens.  The problem wasn't the government inflating prices.  The problem causing shortages is government interference in the market.  It doesn't matter if the government sets the prices high or low, the result is shortages.  Read Hayek.  Read Friedman.  Read Thomas Sowell.  Read the recently deceased Walter Williams.

    Benevolent Socialism is still Socialism and that doesn't work.

    Dude, you can't be serious. I don't need to read it. My family lived it. Wow. Okay.

  3. 13 minutes ago, EdF said:

    If you support the Texas law, you are not "all for free market" . . . 

    I'm sorry to say, but if you aren't in support of the Texas Law, it is you who are not for a free market. My family comes from a Communist country. You know what they did there? Inflated prices to the point where it was impossible for the average person to afford "essentials". Which is why there were lines for milk, bread, flour, and toilet paper. They would inflate prices, liquidate the market, and then drop prices again when there wasn't enough for everyone. So if you were at the end of the line, and they ran out, you didn't eat that day. And certain people starved because of it. That's how they controlled the economy. Where do you come from? Don't think that because you think you have an altruistic stance, it is actually altruistic. 

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  4. 5 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said:

    Starting with a BB gun is better than jumping right into and centerfire cartridge - i 100000% recommend starting on a .22 - if you want and are in the North Jersey area - let me know you can join me at Cherry Ridge Range.......  :)


    Thank you! I'm in South Jersey, but appreciate the offer very much. Thanks for the info! I will start with the SR22. My local range has them to rent. Also getting a 10/22 so my son and I can plink with. 

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  5. 3 minutes ago, EdF said:

    If it's illegal to CHARGE more during an "emergency" shouldn't it also be illegal to PAY more?  If the transaction is illegal . . . Shouldn't BOTH parties be libel?

    LOL, you just did what you asked me not to do. Take the example as it is and not slide into another topic. So let's keep on track!

    2 minutes ago, EdF said:

    They are told no such thing by me . . . I'm all for making this a fight.  Moving helps no one when the national laws are about to be changed.

    I am told this every time I complain about the gun laws in NJ out there in the non-internet world. 

  6. Forgive the completely newbie question. And thanks for any information. 

    Would it be reasonable to learn to shoot with proficiency on a 22LR pistol and will those skill transfer readily when switching to a 9mm? Or would just starting out with a 9mm make the most sense? My goal is to become very proficient at hand guns. Basically starting from scratch. Will I learn proper technique, grip, sight picture, etc with the 9mm? Happily I can rent all sorts of hand guns at the ranges around me, but will eventually want to make a purchase. Thoughts? 

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  7. 7 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said:

    ^^^^^    this

    Raising the price 400% means only a very select population would be able to afford that price. And since it's deemed "essential" are you okay with that? If only the top 5% could afford milk because the price is inflated, would that be cool with you?

    Just now, 124gr9mm said:

    So where's the line and who determines where the line is and when it goes into effect?

    Is it 100%, 200%, 300%?

    If you go online right now there are dozens of retailers selling at exponential increases over pre-COVID prices, so why is CTD treated differently.  They're pricing at the top of the (current) market, but they don't control it.

    Because they chose to do business out of TX where doing that is illegal. They should move to a different state if they are unhappy with the Laws in their state. Isn't that what we are told about the gun laws in NJ? Move out!

  8. Just now, EdF said:

    "So the Government should give people food if they can't afford it? Who is going to pay to feed all these people? I'm not sure I follow your logic."

    Where have you been?  The government DOES give people food . . . Not just people who can't afford it in fact!  

    You live right here in Cherry Hill where there was a stink last year because the schools were going to give tuna fish sandwiches to the kids of parents who didn't pay their lunch bills.

    I think you misunderstood me. I know what the Government does do. My question is, in your opinion, SHOULD they. Because it isn't the Government giving people anything. It's US. The taxpayer. 

    6 minutes ago, EdF said:

    The very fact that you put the word emergency in quotes shows that it is defined arbitrarily.  As I have already noted, rising prices in times of shortage ensure that a product remains a readily available to the most people for the longest time.  


    It's not arbitrary at all. It is stated as such by the state officials. It has to be declared. How is that arbitrary?

  9. 6 minutes ago, EdF said:

    In a civilized society, the laws are not all created equally.  I said that the AG of Texas has no business setting the prices for ammo.  Or milk or bread or anything else.  This is exactly the same a saying that the AG of NJ has any business telling where I can and can't take my guns as long as I don't do anything illegal with those guns.  

    In general, I agree with what you said. However, the law is specific to times of "emergency". And on that, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. 

    6 minutes ago, EdF said:

    "As per the article, ammo is essential in the eyes of the Texas AG."

    If ammo is essential, the government of Texas should be supplying ammo to those who can't afford it. 

    So the Government should give people food if they can't afford it? Who is going to pay to feed all these people? I'm not sure I follow your logic. 

  10. 3 minutes ago, EdF said:

    That's the point . . . I don't give a crap what the law says.  That's not the point.
    The law here in NJ says that we can't open carry and we can't get carry permits.  Are you going to post a link to story of someone getting busted on one of those charges and say, "They got what they deserved . . . "

    It's a matter of standing up for what's right.

    Let's say that CTD didn't raise their prices and a few fine Texas citizens swooped in and bought up all of the .223 ammo so that none was available for anyone else.  Is that OK?  By raising prices, CTD actually ensured that MORE customers would be able to get ammo rather than fewer.  

    So, the law doesn't make sense from any point of view.

    I don't agree with the Laws here in NJ, but as a civilized society, we agree to adhere to the Laws where we agree to live. If you knowingly and willingly break the Law, you shouldn't get busted? Is that what you're saying? You can certainly argue the 2nd Amendment in court, but you will likely lose. 

    This isn't about just ammo in TX. If you went into a 7-11 in TX and Milk was suddenly $20 a gallon, would you be okay with that? Food, Drink and Ammo are considered "essential" in TX. Rightfully so. Do you want Government protection from price gauging on anything or nothing?

  11. 6 minutes ago, EdF said:

    So . . . Do we like regulation when is helps us and only condemn it when it hurts us?

    It's shouldn't be up to the Texas AG to interfere in private transactions between citizens and legal businesses.  It isn't "gouging" if the two parties agree on a price.  Prices are set by supply and demand and shouldn't be held in place by those in the state house, congress or the White House. 

    Except state law prohibits price gauging during a time of "emergency". I posted a link to the statute in another thread. 

  12. 14 minutes ago, Golf battery said:

    Welcome back kotter.  Im old-er now. But yes.  Glad to see you’re still interested in this money draining sport. 

    Haha, thanks! I more interesting in becoming proficient at protecting my home and family. Especially in these crazy times. 

  13. 2 hours ago, EdF said:

    Welcome from a fellow Cherry Hill resident!  PM me if you would like to talk, get together or try out anything that I have on hand.  Nothing for sale but you are welcome to try some out.

    Thank you, brother! That is very kind! 

  14. I joined this page many years ago, but never really was able to get involved in the Firearm community for a huge variety of reasons. 

    About 2 months ago, my son and I got into shooting Archery, so I got him a beginner bow and I got a nice starter compound bow. We started going to Range 129 and Bob's Little Sport Shop to practice and I got the firearm bug again. Now that my kids are older, I have more time to explore. 

    I recently applied for an FID card and once I get it, I'll purchase a 10/22 for my son and I to plink with. My ultimate goal is to get very proficient with a pistol, so I will take a couple of private lessons, and rent a few different pistols, and eventually make a purchase. I feel like I need to protect my family in these crazy times, but am completely disgusted with NJ Gun Laws. To the point where, once my kids are out of the public school system, we will likely move to a more 2A friendly state. Amazing how our 2nd Amendment rights are trampled on every day in this state. And SCOTUS won't help us at all. Sickening. 

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  15. On 11/22/2019 at 3:29 PM, dilbert1967 said:


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  16. Go to the next gun show and the Philadelphia armory and see the mass amount of nazi memorabilia.


    No thanks. And if that's what's being displayed at gun shows, you wonder why there is a stigma against guns. Big surprise there. 


    Honestly, folks, I came to these forums to learn about the issues and to get more experience around gun owners. As much as I support the right to bear arms and the issues in being able to own fire arms in NJ, some of the interactions I've had on these forums shows me why there are so many out there who are trying to suppress these rights. Change requires more than "because I said so, and because it written down in a 200 year old document". The arguments I've read on these forums from some people are down right shocking. If that's the ammunition used to try to secure the long term health of the 2nd Amendment, well, good luck with that. That's not how politics works, and like it or not, that's what we have to deal with. 


    I fully intend to continue with my fire arm education and learning to be safe around them. Maybe even be a proficient shooter eventually. Some here have REALLY turned me off, though. Good riddance to me, I guess. 

  17. Here we go again. A member of a 2nd Amendment forum having no concept of the 1st Amendment.


    "Is there any other reason to own Nazi flags and symbols" sounds an awful lot like "Nobody needs an **assault weapon** whose only purpose is to kill!!" Or "How many guns do you really need?"


    Numerous writers have explained the philosophy behind the 1st Amendment much more eloquently than I ever could. But let me summarize for you: It's nobody's flippin' business if I own a swastika, photos of Hitler, or a Confederate flag. Nobody ever needs to give a reason for owning or displaying these things. 


    Here we go again, someone who is a member of a 2nd Amendment forum, talking about the 1st Amendment with no earthly idea of what the Law of the Land actually says. Well done. 


    You must have missed the part where it is ILLEGAL to sell these items on public land. 1st Amendment not withstanding. Whether you believe it or not, whether you think it is right or not, it's the LAW. You don't need a reason to display anything you want. Of course not, but that's not what this is about. 


    Go ahead and fly that Nazi flag in a synagogue on a Saturday morning. No problem. It's your right because you said so. 

  18. There are nazi items in my house right now. They are war trophies from family members who served in ww2. Guess what, that doesn't mean I support nazi's


    No it doesn't. You aren't selling Nazi paraphernalia that were made recently on a table at a market, though, are you? You aren't purchasing Nazi paraphernalia that were made recently, though are you? Do you purchase neo nazi propaganda? 


    Come on, let's actually use our brains in this discussion. You can make up any example you wish about whatever you want to strengthen an argument. You want to have Nazi stuff in your house, I really couldn't care less, to be perfectly honest. Sell those items in an open market, well, that just might stir things up a bit. I would ask you about them, and if you tell me they are heirlooms from killed Nazi soldiers, I think you and I would have a great conversation, as I'm somewhat of a history buff. Sell to promote hate, in a publicly owned market, yep, I would have some problems with that. I'll be part of the problem in that case. 

  19. Who deems something a "hate item." How does an object posses hate?


    The idea that objects need to be censored is a problem. So yes, you are.


    So you don't believe in any kind of censorship of any kind? Please.


    I love this argument because I don't think you realize just how censored you actually are. Yet, here you are giving me crap because of a difference of opinion. So I'm the problem, because you'd rather censor my views and make sure you're views are the ones that prevail. Can't you see the irony??? 

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