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Thanks! I got an instant response from them and they contacted my FFL transferee within 5 minutes! Gun on its way. I’ve been waiting two days for my other guy to send his info.

Any recommended FFLs in South Jersey? I used to use Banger’s as they were so responsive and well staffed. Been using a one-man FFL after they closed and he’s hit or miss (random hours, unresponsive). Thanks!

I'll also recommend both Quinton and Cedar Creek. The Woods course at Cedar Creek is the easiest. Friendly people at both places.

Great, thank you. It seemed like common sense and then I broke out in a cold sweat when I remembered, "This is NJ. Common sense doesn't apply here."

I know, sorry , I did search, but there are so many threads where the laws are debated and people conflate "possession" with "purchase" or handguns and long guns lumped together as "firearms". I shoot Sporting Clays at Cedar Creek and Quiton. Might try 5-stand at Telco one day.

It shouldn't be this tedious, I know. When I go shoot Sporting Clays or Trap (you know, with a Joe Biden-approved firearm), I'm not as hyper-aware of getting stopped and jacked-up on some technicality. (And yes, I am 100% legal in terms of purchases). So I normally keep my shells in a zippered (unlocked range bag) and my shotguns in soft-cases (closed, with zippered or clipped fasteners, but not LOCKED per-se) in the back of my Jeep Cherokee (with seat down coz those guns are long). Do I really have to lock up the ammo? And get a locking case for the guns? How about when I buy shells at Dicks and they put them in a plastic shopping bag? Am I supposed to keep a locking bag in the car to take them home?

With so many registered shoots going on, I thought I'd try a new range in South Jersey and visited Quinton in Salem County and have since gone back. It's a nice facility overall, offering Trap, Skeet, Sporting Clays and 5-Stand. I've been there twice for Trap and Sporting Clays and both were busy, but not crowded. On the Trap field, the shooters were pretty laid back and friendly and the woman, Lisa, who was running the show was super helpful. I went with my son and both being new to Trap, I appreciated the advice from the guys just hanging out. It's the kind of place that gets a lot of regulars and they sit around and chew the fat and, when there's enough for a squad, or when Lisa is trying to fill a squad, someone will get up and join. You know there are regulars when a shooter goes down into the trap house to check on the trap or set it up for doubles. It was a pretty good mix of people, yeah, plenty of middle-aged and elderly men, but a few women and juniors as well. It was a very comfortable place to shoot and I recommend it, though it is a haul (for me) being so far south. They only have one Sporting Clay course as far as I know and it's nicely laid out in the woods along winding, stoned paths. We found the presentations fairly hard - definitely more difficult than the Woods course at Cedar Creek, for example. Lots of longer distance targets. I don't shoot skeet but they have a couple of skeet ranges that look to be in good condition. I've not seen anyone on the skeet range either time I've been there. Prices per round weren't bad - $30 for 100 Sporting Clays and $5 for a round of Trap (non-member prices). Clubhouses are nice. No ammo for sale.

Drive through towns like Cherry Hill or West Windsor and you're likely to see many more traffic stops by unmarked cars, usually Ford SUVs or Dodge Chargers with the darkest window tint possible. You can be sure there is a UNIFORMED officer inside, however. A while back there were numerous reports of a fake cop in an unmarked car (like a Crown Vic) pulling women over in PA. The advice the PDs were giving was to ask for a marked car or call 911 if you're suspicious it's some whack-job, most of whom are too stupid, cheap or poor to install wig-wags, LED strobes or a siren.

Thanks! Last thing I want to do is run afoul of a NJ gun law. I'm surprised the geniuses in the NJ legislature haven't made NICS a requirement for all sales, private or through a dealer (effectively shutting down private sales). Now I have to figure out a payment option. For a $500 gun, I'd say cash only, but a $3000 gun? Not sure. Paypal?

Sorry, I know this is an old thread, but I couldn't find a newer one... I'm going to sell my 9mm Wilson Combat X-tac and was thinking about a consignment sale, but many folks recommend a face-to-face private transaction. Can I really sell privately without an FFL? I understand the purchaser should have a valid P2P, FID and photo ID, but I don't get why a handgun purchase from a store requires all of the above PLUS a NICS check, but a private sale can be done without the "instant" check. Is this the famous gun-show loophole?

Got a new shotgun this year and am interested in patterning it. I belong to SJSC, but their only "shotgun bay" is really just a couple of stations on the 50-yard range and it's always packed (when I go there) with rifle shooters. It would take all day to pattern (or I'd be about as popular as Trump on late-night TV calling for a green-flag after every shot). Anyone know of a place I can walk in and pattern a shotgun? Thanks!

Ah yes, I just read that the Delaware State shoot was this weekend. That explains it. Maybe I'll give it a try at one of their Wednesday's sessions. I'm fairly awful at Sporting Clays, but I'm always up for trying new things.

I was looking for a place closer to home to shoot some clays and stumbled upon Pine Belt in Shamong. Never really heard much about it on these forums. I'm in Cherry Hill and it's about an hour to Cedar Creek Sporting Clays (where I've been shooting). Pine Belt is about a half hour drive, so I stopped by today. Never saw so many people or a facility that large - they have something like 14 trap houses and 3 skeet fields, all nicely arranged and the entire facility looked top-notch. Maybe there was a tournament today, but it was packed. Lots of cars from out of state and campers, folks tailgaiting. I never shot trap, but I hung out and watched a few rounds. Very different from Sporting Clays. The squad action is rythmic, fast and very quiet (no chatter). Two other observations - while there was a good mix of men and women of all ages, there were a LOT of really old, really good shooters. That and I never saw so many Kreighoff guns in my life in one place. These were definitely no weekend duffers. Anyhow, I'm not sure if trap is for me, but I'd be curious to learn anyone's first hand experience with the club. Can you just go out and practice or do you have to squad up and play every time?

Yep, great weather, people were cordial and it was a lot of fun. I'm not accustomed to sucking at things, so it was quite humbling. I like the stats on iClays because I found my only silver lining - I did better than average (for my class) at a few stations. Other than that...dead last. LOL. The squad in front of mine had some of the best shooters. Carts were top-notch - even tinted windows! But everyone was nice and in good cheer. Damn - it was impressive watching them shoot. I teamed up with another solo guy who's AA. He shot in the 80's and placed something like 51 (out of 133) overall. Yeah it was a big crowd. Great weather. I don't know if I'll enter another competition until I get some practice and figure out some things. Thanks for the encouragement, guys!

Well, that was a humbling experience...I had a feeling I was in over my head when the squads with national sponsorship showed up in their trucks pulling their own carts. All the scores aren't in yet, but I'm looking to be a lock for Worst in Class and Worst Over All. LOL.

I'm signed up for the Woods course. This will be my first sanctioned event and I'm solo (no squad). Should be fun and the weather looks promising. Anyone else participating?

Oh wait, you're the guy who has the (one and only) NJ carry permit? Congrats man, you're like a unicorn or some other mythical beast. Me, I'm just an IT Project Manager.

First, please congratulate me for resuscitating a six-year old thread My four-wheeler is about to bite the dust and I'm going to use my 2-wheeler for commuting. Do you think there's any way I can carry my O/U on my bike and not get hassled by 5-0? In it's soft case, it's about 52" long. I have hard saddle bags and a luggage case/rack on my FLHTCU, so I think I'm OK with ammo. Just trying to figure out if there's a way to carry the gun long - maybe vertically? Even broken down, the thing is big (32" barrels).

I managed to make it out to Cedar Creek this morning and shot (at) a hundred clays with Joe coaching. Nice place. Will definitely go back soon. The new gun felt great and I got off to a fairly good start with singles and then pairs on a few stations. Was getting some good consistency and we moved on to a more difficult station with high arching crossing birds and I suddenly couldn't hit a thing. Really have to smooth out my motions. Had a blast, though. Much more fun than shooting handguns at paper targets.

Last time I checked, I think Quinton was up to $300 for their initiation/capital-improvement one-time fee. CJRPC is up to $600 (plus $321 annually). I'd have to really love a place to pony up that kind of cash. I'm not opposed to membership dues or some type of screening/sponsorship process to join. Lord knows, I've been at plenty of public ranges or clubs where the only screening process was the ability to write a check -- 99% of the time, everything is fine, but every once in a while some group of yocals comes through that makes you want to seek shelter.

If the weather cooperates, I'm going to check out Cedar Creek tomorrow or Thursday. It looks like there are four regularly mentioned clubs about an hour south from me (Cedar Creek, M&M, Quinton and Red Wings). Telco and Pine Valley (trap only) are much closer. I will probably check out Telco soon as they're about to resume Monday night trap shooting.

As far as sporting clays go, what are the pros and cons of M&M vs Cedar Creek? Both are a haul for me and while I'm not opposed to checking both out, I just wonder what the conventional wisdom is on those. For trap, Pine Valley is a lot closer to me, but their website looks dead with a lot of info years out of date.

I recently put an "Easy-Hit" fiberoptic sight on my shotgun but have yet to try it out. Just mounting and pointing in the house, I have to say that I like it a lot. My gun originally came with a HiViz Pro-Comp fiber-optic sight, and I'd see two of them when focusing past the gun. With the dot buried in the tube, I now only see the dot under my non-dominant eye (which is aligned with the rib). I'm able to mount, confirm alignment and then point where I expect with both eye open. A quick wink of my dominant eye confirms I'm on target. I hope to try it out in the field later this week.

I've been meaning to check out Cedar Creek and have contacted Joe there about getting some instruction. I figure being so new, I'm a blank canvas and don't want to do what would normally do (go it alone and try to figure it out) lest I burn in some bad habits. So how does it work at place like Cedar Creek? Is it sorta like a public golf course where you show up and get in line to tee off on the course? Do you have to run the course in a group? I'm kinda hoping to find a place where I can practice and develop some muscle memory/eye-hand coordination before jumping into a more competitive situation. Some of those trap rounds I've watched move along at a pretty fast pace. In answer to your question, I have a 12GA Browning O/U. Thanks!

Hey, thanks! Unfortunately, too many pre-arranged obligations today, but I appreciate the invite!