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  1. again, problem here is we are not talking about short barreled handgun.  It really is apples and oranges due to the pressure curve from the bore

     

    the reason rifles go kaboom 99% of the time with a squib is because there is a spike in pressure that exceeds the initial charge and then physics takes over


  2. 7 minutes ago, Maksim said:

    For separating... this makes it easier...

    Shell Sorter

    If you want easy scrap, there is a company that you register online, weight the brass, they give you a shipping label and mail it in.  $1.40 per lb.  Capital Cartridge. 

    that's pretty cool!  Beacon in Amboy is 1.50 and I don't mind going there but thank you

    16 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

    I will separate it, where are you?

    appreciate that but no worries

    not sure how you can find that relaxing, man it's just like scratching your eyes to me. 


  3. 5 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

    I have, you get more money in trade than in scrap.  

    I hear you but not going through it.  I see they sell 5lb buckets of 223/556 for 175 and I've got at least 3 of those if I separated and at least 1 full of 9mm.  fk that, just bring to beacon and walk out...lol

     

    I've got zinc stuff too but not as much.  that is mostly 38


  4. 3 hours ago, Ray Ray said:

    Separate it via caliber, scrap the bent or unreloadable casings and sell the rest here.  Or trade it for goods.

    A 5 gallon bucket of brass is usually 80 bucks in cash, but that number fluctuates daily.

    I have a total of 5 buckets from last year and not separating it, too much of a hassle to be honest.  It's mostly 9mm, 5.56 but there is also a decent amount of 38/357 and 308.  Do have some 30-06, 45 but like I said, too much of a hassle.

     

    really just curious if anyone has ever done this before. 


  5. 9 minutes ago, raz-0 said:

    The barrel length lowers the pressure. It's a pistol cartridge using pistol powder with pistol burn rates. Most all of them are done burning powder and experiencing a pressure drop by the time they reach the end of longer barrels. They are designed to hit their specs ina  6" test fixture. 

     

    you are too fixated on handguns with very short barrels here.  Rifle systems are much different, auto to non auto-loaders especially.  With any blockage that prevents gas expulsion, you get a spike in the curve that results in the rupture of the barrel.  all that pressure doesn't dissipate like it would normally and then with non auto-loaders where you have not gas bleed off, you get pop.  This was not such an occurrence. 

     


  6. psa sucks, shitty qc, and unless you go premium, you are wasting your money.  the lpk's suck, absolutely suck.  their lowers and uppers are fine however

     

    that said, kentucky gun co is awesome!

    also, they need to make this with the m&p adapter given it's the most popular handgun for several years running.  time to get away from that ugly ass glock...lol


  7. 32 minutes ago, GRIZ said:

     

    Military DNA sampling is so there is so there will be no "unknown soldiers" in the future.

    If you're arrested police can take a DNA sample.  No different from fingerprints and photo as a means of identification.  If you're not arrested police need a warrant to get a DNA sample AFAIK.

    Keep in mind that DNA can also prove your innocence as well as your guilt.  There have been stories in the press about DNA being used to free wrongfully convicted people from prison.

    My fingerprints have been on file with the FBI since I was 17 and getting a security clearance when I was going in the Army.  Never has an instance of them being used against me.  I would expect DNA databases maintained by law enforcement to be treated the same way.

    Make up your mind are these mail in tests accurate or not?  I am not an expert on DNA  but I know the tests police use are more accurate than the mail in tests.  I also understand that some DNA shares characteristics.  For example Native American DNA shares some with Asian as that's where they originated.

    3% is within the margin of error for these mail in tests.  Here's a guy who got 6 different results from 9 mail in tests.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/63997-dna-ancestry-test-results-explained.html

    yes I know all about the military, the requirements and reasoning and stated that is not an issue or what I meant. 

    absolutely against any dna extraction unless guilty, it's the libertarian in me.  I recognize the strain it puts on investigations but it's what I believe in.  I am a strong advocate of innocent until proven guilty would gladly see 99 guilty go free for the sake of one innocent being wrongfully convicted.

     

    If you voluntarily submit to dna upon arrest, great and no issue with it

     

    mail in tests are no different than the test conducted for paternity etc.  DNA is unique in that there are no outliers in the data.  It's a fascinating conundrum for statisticians


  8. 8 hours ago, GRIZ said:

    It was in the late 80s early 90s when they collected DNA samples from the Reserves and National Guard.

    Well when you're in the military and if they say we're taking your DNA sample, they're taking your DNA sample.  You have no option.

    I agree that those DNA tests are not that accurate.  Unless you're spending several thousand dollars for it.  That said a 3% error between the two sisters is well within the margin of error.

    military is different and I recognize it as such. I am referring more to the recent law that suspects can have dna taken

     

    disagree on the 3% margin here however given dna doesn't fall into normal statistical sampling methods.  There is no 95% match in sibling dna, it's either 99.9 or next to zero.  DNA is fascinating, accurate, and does not lie


  9. your dna should never be allowed to be taken without consent imho.

     

    that said, these things are not really that accurate imho.  We did it and I know my family lineage as I've seen headstones that date to 1300, know the family history well for both sides and the results were mixed.  You have to understand how the sampling works and how to read the concentric circles they use to pinpoint. 

    Just think, how does 2 girls from same family have 1 miss 3% of a heritage when DNA is supposed to be 99.9% accurate?


  10. 33 minutes ago, Maksim said:

    Will show you... But so far as an RO in USPSA, through out the years I stopped at least 5 Squibs... believe it or not many at the national matches.  A regular no powder squib sounds different, yes... BUT an underpowered charge is very different.  

    In fact, testing my own ammo when I had no lock out die... 9mm, generally around 1150 FPS.... had a few that were barely 600 fps... sounded exactly the same.

    By Squib I mean any round that does not leave the barrel... 

    And as discussed with steve in chat... quite a few squibs simply get shot out by oblivious shooters.  Not every squib being shot ends up in a big blow.

    Once again, I am not saying this gun blew up BECAUSE of a squib/underpowered charge... it is likely... BUT there was an obstruction caused by something, manufacturing defect or what not.  

    it's not a squib, not even close.  with all due respect and I mean that as tone doesn't come across in these message chats, I question if you have actually seen a squib or been around a barrel affected by one.  Squibs are not as common as some would lead you to believe.  A squib leads to uncontrolled 'mini-explosion' that ruptures a barrel.  A barrel will blow outward and you'll have non-linear breaks in the barrel or firearm.  We simply don't see this here, not even close. 

    I've never heard of a squib being shot out by a shooter and them not knowing it.  Bullets deform to diameter of the barrel and being struck by another object with minimum 20k psi would be known.  I'm sure you can find in internet retardation someone will say it happens but it doesn't, unless you are talking 1 in 100mm here and we are not. 

    as I said, I'm willing to put my money where my experience and education is.  I'll bet you the price of your 686 and you bet the firearm.  I'll even leave said cash with Steve when I pick up the 19 next week and he can send to whoever is right on this.   When you lose, you can send the handgun to Steve.  Deal?

     


  11. 1 hour ago, Maksim said:

    Steve,  

    Of course it was metal fatigue and it is all Henry's fault and a manufacturing defect.

    You are right, we do not know that it was NOT metal fatigue...

    BUT metal fatigue would generally not cause the barrel to bulge. That is what people here are trying to tell you.

    It is quite possible that there was a manufacturing defect that LEAD to an obstruction, but most certainly there was an obstruction.  

    No one is dismissing a manufacturing defect, not even I... but you are completely dismissing anything that points to the fact that the shooter may have and likely contributed.  

    So along your lines... "You DONT know it was NOT a squib."

    Btw, I very quickly dismissed the broad "SQUIB" definition as there was most certainly powder in the round... just not enough of it.  

    not a squib by any definition and the bulge is not really a bulge.  any 'squib' whether big or small would never have such a linear break.  I would bet you could search the internet for a week and not find one like this. 

    I've personally witnessed 2 kabooms from bad ammo and have been around long enough to know that anyone having even the smallest 'squib' would know it immediately.  It is not a subtle happening by any stretch.

    Henry had issues with muzzle loaders where barrels were splitting so it's not unheard of from them

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